Hahaha I know exactly who it is.
Awful random ass GIS thing I just grabbed, but lookie here. Seems the same.
I don't know, I feel like I see more of the gun in the Halo 4 gif.
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Hahaha I know exactly who it is.
I don't know, I feel like I see more of the gun in the Halo 4 gif.
I agree. In the Halo 4 pic, you see more of the "spine" of the gun, for lack of a better word. Looks more like a Halo 1 style grip, where you see more of the gun.
God, we're gonna feel so dumb come monday morning, lol.
Nah, we're just going by what we see here. I'm not jumping to conclusions by saying that because the gun is smaller, the FOV is larger and blah blah blah. For all we know the AR in the H4 gif could be a smaller version and actually makes the spartan move faster in game.
biosnake20
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That is what I was thinking too, might be a larger FOV?
Doesn't it look like the guy playing is pressing the left trigger, but his character never throws a grenade?
I keep thinking that's the underground part of snowbound.
Devolution
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Still better than half the shit in the gaming side thread.
Maybe. I don't know, it's hard to tell. I just wanna believe so bad that it's Halo 4. I figured Frankie and David would tell us if it wasn't Halo 4.
Devolution
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I'm just laughing about how a couple bans have happened within that Halo 4 thread.
But a taste of the
VivaciousJazzy
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The more I see the more I think its halo 3. They could be using halo 3 models as place holders though.
GrimBrother One
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I had the pleasure of having a pretty substantial conversation with her at the Thursday night HF event in August. Such an amazing woman. Calm and compassionate, but driven and knowledgeable. Getting to spend some time with her was actually one of the highlights of the whole weekend. I think 343 is in some pretty brilliant hands.
Devolution
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Speaking of multiplayer anyone on?
Yeah, i was thinking the same thing.
To sleep or not to sleep, that will be the question on Sunday night.
I just bailed on Nuts, Blood, & Dani, so they have a spot.
^ Of course you sleep, take some Nyquil at 9 PM so the morning comes faster.
Rickenslacker
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You know you wanna feel like a kid waking up at Christmas when you spring up out of bed and check the nets. Sleep that shit out.
StalkerUKCG
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What is the time frame in the video for that halo 4 footage.
Demoncarnotaur
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Around 25 seconds through half way through 27 seconds or so.
Yea I'll sleep lol, definitely setting the alarm though! Finally nice to see the Halo news drought ending.
and nice tweet Ellis.
Steelyuhas
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At least Reach FOV is needed for Halo 4 (Reach is 78 I believe). FOV in H2 and H3 is awful (It's 60 I think, CE is 90).
As much as we tear him a new one, Sage did insist on a better FOV for Reach apparently.
As much as we tear him a new one, Sage did insist on a better FOV for Reach apparently.
it would also be cool if when going from strafing one direction to another, that you didn't end up stationary for upwards of 5 seconds
Awful random ass GIS thing I just grabbed, but lookie here. Seems the same.
Wait, where's this from? I don't remember seeing a build of Halo 3 that looked quite like that. It looks good. Probably since it has a much wider FOV than what we got.
VivaciousJazzy
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On the subject of FOV's It would be really neat to have a game option that lets you change it to what angle you like.
ODST returned Halo to the wider FOV before Reach.
SMH if the Bungie designers in general wanted to close the FOV back down again for whatever idiotic balancing motive concerning Reach competitive multiplayer and Sage of all people was the one voice of reason that stopped it from happening.
A lot of PC games have a slider, but you're not going to be seeing that on a console since it impacts performance so much.
Slightly Live
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GG's Ram, Blood, Ghal, Nutter, Devo, Star.
Thanks for the backpack action.
Thanks for the backpack action.
I understand that wider fov makes you feel faster and grants you more situational awareness, but it is set that way for a reason in halo 3 and 2 and not just because of performance considerations. For me it makes halo 3 feel like a slower more methodical game where you're playing as a tank named master chief. You can't have your eye on everything and that leads to interesting situations and the necessity for teamwork. It also makes it slightly easier to aim since your targets are larger on screen.
In other words I disagree that every game benefits from and should have a super wide FOV or that people should even have a choice as a menu option, especially in multiplayer. FOV is a design choice just like movement speed.
Now if halo 4 is going to let you play as a super mobile character like the TF2 scout, then sure, give me a fisheye FOV if you want like in the old quake days.
250 degree fov in quake:
In other words I disagree that every game benefits from and should have a super wide FOV or that people should even have a choice as a menu option, especially in multiplayer. FOV is a design choice just like movement speed.
Now if halo 4 is going to let you play as a super mobile character like the TF2 scout, then sure, give me a fisheye FOV if you want like in the old quake days.
250 degree fov in quake:
Devolution
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GG's Ram, Blood, Ghal, Nutter, Devo, Star.
Thanks for the backpack action.
Thanks for putting up with my anger, especially tonight.
VivaciousJazzy
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Well obviously we just need to move the halo franchise completely over to the pc.
If only...
FOV these days is more dictated by performance than balance.. although you do need to adjust movement speeds depending on your FOV, because if you widen the FOV, the same walk speed feels much faster than at narrow FOV.
See also: people thinking the hog was made faster in ODST, when it just turned out that the wider FOV made it feel like it was faster, they hadn't touched it's movement speed at all.
Gearbox actually dropped Halo PC's FOV down to 70 degrees when they ported it :lol
See also: people thinking the hog was made faster in ODST, when it just turned out that the wider FOV made it feel like it was faster, they hadn't touched it's movement speed at all.
Gearbox actually dropped Halo PC's FOV down to 70 degrees when they ported it :lol
Franklinator
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Hey guys I enhanced that Halo 4 footage
Rickenslacker
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I just Googled Halo 3 AR and it seemed to spring up from the Bungie forums just prior to 3's release.Wait, where's this from? I don't remember seeing a build of Halo 3 that looked quite like that. It looks good. Probably since it has a much wider FOV than what we got.
Nah fuck that. 90 FOV and a crosshair in the middle of the screen plz. Conform to that Halo CE gold standard.
Even more derpressing is the fact that it was wider earlier and someone wanted to reduce it.
I understand that wider fov makes you feel faster and grants you more situational awareness, but it is set that way for a reason in halo 3 and 2 and not just because of performance considerations. For me it makes halo 3 feel like a slower more methodical game where you're playing as a tank named master chief. You can't have your eye on everything and that leads to interesting situations and the necessity for teamwork. It also makes it slightly easier to aim since your targets are larger on screen.
In other words I disagree that every game benefits from and should have a super wide FOV or that people should even have a choice as a menu option, especially in multiplayer. FOV is a design choice just like movement speed.
Now if halo 4 is going to let you play as a super mobile character like the TF2 scout, then sure, give me a fisheye FOV if you want like in the old quake days.
250 degree fov in quake:
There is a huge difference between "super wide" and "60 degree vomit-inducing claustrophobia". Movement speed and movement physics are a huge thing too, but it's pretty clear that there's like five, maybe ten people that are concerned with those things in the entire population of people that have an interest in this series; the other ones are playing better games on the PC and have been for over a decade. Maybe if I get motivated sometime I'll do some "stats" on the way movement changed over the course of the series.
Yeah, I like two player splitscreen in CE a lot because you get like 120 FOV.
Steelyuhas
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I understand that wider fov makes you feel faster and grants you more situational awareness, but it is set that way for a reason in halo 3 and 2 and not just because of performance considerations. For me it makes halo 3 feel like a slower more methodical game where you're playing as a tank named master chief. You can't have your eye on everything and that leads to interesting situations and the necessity for teamwork. It also makes it slightly easier to aim since your targets are larger on screen.
In other words I disagree that every game benefits from and should have a super wide FOV or that people should even have a choice as a menu option, especially in multiplayer. FOV is a design choice just like movement speed.
Now if halo 4 is going to let you play as a super mobile character like the TF2 scout, then sure, give me a fisheye FOV if you want like in the old quake days.
250 degree fov in quake:
A bit absurd to compare a 60 degree FOV to a ridiculous 250 degree FOV don't you think? We're talking about the 60 to 90 range here.
VivaciousJazzy
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Hey guys I enhanced that Halo 4 footage
I was going to do the same thing with this
but I had no idea how to make animated gif's in photoshop and eventually gave up.
Edit: 343th page calls for broken embargo plox.
Also note that there are downsides to having a higher FOV, for example, having a slightly harder time hitting rails or tracking with lightning in Quake, which some people make binds for. IIRC, a decent amount of higher-level players use like 90-100 FOV.
xxjuicesxx
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90 FOV
60 fps
Juices as playlist manager.
60 fps
Juices as playlist manager.
Steelyuhas
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To an extent. I think we can all agree that an 80-90 FOV is better than a 60 FOV though.
Who am I kidding?! HaloGAF agrees on nothing!
A good game will have its graphics budgeted toward the needs of gameplay. You should decide your FOV and movement speed way in advance to making your levels and the graphics for them. So it is not like some designer came along and said, hey we are not hitting the bar of 30 fps, so instead of chopping down the graphics, let's break the way the get feels and plays by switching to a lower FOV. At least not any competent dev.
Also, PC gamers aren't sitting 12 feet away from their screen, so their base fov will have to be wider for all unit types. I'm not entirely happy playing reach on my 22 inch monitor at 3 feet away, but i accept it because halo wasn't meant for most people to play it that way and having a choice just wouldn't be balanced in multiplayer.
Well yeah, I'm just throwing an example out there for people that might only have ever played Halo as "their only serious FPS ever" which is a pretty likely thing around here or in any Halo community really.
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