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Demoncarnotaur
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343 dudes, please make Halowaypoint.com faster and more smooth running. Its a nice site, but man is it slow and clunky at times.
Also, will we get an eventual replacement for Bungie Pro?
As in against ToS. Although, you could always argue that no data storage is truly permanent...
Something tells me around March is when Waypoint will be getting another update.
Also 343 Pro better come with a Halo 4 beta
Tha Robbertster
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Another question: How many of you have use waypoint regularly to find stats? Because I can find most things pretty fast on waypoint because I took 10 minutes to learn where to find all stuff on the waypoint site. I can understand that most people didn't do this since Bungie.net was still a viable option.
The Real Napsta
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Fix the 360 dash waypoint too while you are at it.
Demoncarnotaur
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Something tells me around March is when Waypoint will be getting another update.
Also 343 Pro better come with a Halo 4 beta
I hope so, its due for an update soon.
I wonder how the eventual "343 Pro" will differ in functionality from Bungie Pro.
In a way I still dont want a Halo 4 beta. I mean I do, but I dont. I like the idea of mostly everyone going and playing the game for the first time when it comes out.
Yeah, that crashes all the time now for me. I dont even bother with it at this point.
bobs...onGaf
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How did HaloCharts used to update when it was still alive? Did it used to tap into the live updating data?
Somehow I doubt 343 would create a Halo 3 stats portal from scratch but at the very least I would hope 343 allows for the live updating of stats to keep coming through. I dont know how the hell that works, but it would allow for HaloCharts style sites to keep updating right? If it came down to it, if 343 kept that datastream going im sure developers would throw together a site to emulate Bnet. (I would probably try and do it myself).
From what I gathered, it did a page request and parsed through the data. At least in Halo 3 days. I kinda want an app similar to H3Opp that gathered all of my Halo 3 games and then sorted through them who I matched against and bunch of other stuff too. If only it still worked...
Truly the end of an era, and what an era it was. Sad as it makes me, it's one more step on the way to seeing Bungie's next universe, so I can't help but feel a glimmer of excitement in the news.
Out with the old, in with the new.
And yeah, Waypoint needs a lot of love to get up to par. Bungie was able to iterate on their integration over the course of four games, so it's a tall order. But there's definately a big gap to clear still.
A27_StarWolf
Banned
Wait what happened to Halo Charts?
Bungie had gorgeous information design on their stat pages it was brilliant.
Battlelog also has pretty good design too.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Hmm, I wonder if anyone did tap directly into the datastream rather than grab the stats off of Bnet, Bungie did give people access directly to the data didnt they? Or is that only with Reach?
If 343 could keep the data updating so that others could develop the frontend that would be good enough for me lol.
StarWolf im not sure why, but HaloCharts shut down a while back.
Connect directly to the "data stream"? If there is no API, or no stats page to scrape info from, this isn't really possible. 343 would either have to create an API that is either public or unique/private/custom for certain sites, or have a stats page that could then be scraped, basically what Zeouter said.
HaloCharts shut down because the guy couldn't devote any more time and resources to it and offered it for sale. Kinda which he just gave it away but whatever.
Edit: Does 343 have control over Halo 3? I never heard they did or not and assumed Bungie still controlled it.
Here's an easy one:
Medals.
Visit your Medals page at B.net; You'll see all medals available in the game, split out by game category (Campaign, Firefight, Competitive, etc). If you don't have the medal, it's greyed out.
Now visit your Medals page on Waypoint.
There's one collection for all gametypes. But wait - the numbers shown correspond to only ONE category! And it's not the same category for every medal! (An example for me: it shows me Killionaires that correspond to Firefight - but Dreamcrushers that correspond to Competitive.)
And there are many medals missing altogether. (I have perfections and exterminations in both Competitive and Arena categories - but the medals don't even SHOW on Waypoint.)
There are many, many other places where the stats simply aren't available at the same level they are on B.net.
And this doesn't even consider screenshots or film clips...
Too bad the EA account system locked me out of it.
Yup. And setting aside content, the organization and site performance are vastly superior on b.net. It's still remarkable how much information is readily available a click or two away, and how well it's laid out when you reach it. World class stuff.
Bungie's usability/user experience guys are really good, especially with the amount of data being shown. They also had a lot of time to build and iterate on what they knew and created. It'll be interesting to see if 343's guys can do the same. Many people in web development claim to know usability but they really don't and just know design/look or print design. Hopefully they evolve into this or find people that can do it.
squidhands
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Finally, something HaloGAF can all agree on.
Tha Robbertster
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Those are some valid points.
I think it's better for 343 if they get this kind of feedback instead of comments like ''bungie.net is way better than waypoint''. But still, it isn't that bad and there are some good things like being able to watch the terminals on the site and the halo career tracking.
It's hard not to see why B.net is better than Waypoint.com. B.net is faster, pretty much everything is easier to access and when you link to certain areas on the site it actually sends you there instead of giving you an error.
VivaciousJazzy
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This feels so good in my hands
thezerofire
Banned
is there a consensus as to what dpad is the best?
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Hey guys, what's going on....
This feels so good in my hands
I feel like the different style sticks would feel weird.
Steelyuhas
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VivaciousJazzy
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Thats the thing, you can change it to what you like.
The Real Napsta
Member
This feels so good in my hands
Why do you still have that shit 360 dpad on there?
awesome controller, do want
bobs...onGaf
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Saw this on HBO and its a pretty sucky video, BUT what they do at the 4.10ish minuite mark is amazing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIJHaAvoYDY
Needs metal gear solid music.
But yeah in general the video is just people abusing hiding spots and glitches with armour lock. (armour lock really needs to be removed from the game.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIJHaAvoYDY
Needs metal gear solid music.
But yeah in general the video is just people abusing hiding spots and glitches with armour lock. (armour lock really needs to be removed from the game.)
VivaciousJazzy
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The ps3 one is like the garbage default xbox one. I'm actually pretty satisfied with their xbox dpad
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The Real Napsta
Member
That sucks the PS3 one is terrible.
thezerofire
Banned
that looks pretty terrible to use
Oh yeah, is waypoint gonna be updated for our saved files or are we screwed?
I don't like the current waypoint, but you got to remember. Bungie's had alot of time to design and test their stats section. 343s just getting started.
So wait, that means that basically Halo 3 stats tracking ends on March 31st!?? That really sucks.
Im glad that stuff will be archived and viewable, but the fact that stats tracking will come to an end effectively for H3 is really sad.
I doubt 343 will invest resources for a 5 year old game. Please prove me wrong?
Damnit, forgot about that too :/
Gives you PC accurate aiming and you don't have to worry about dead zones or locks either.
EDIT: Video example
Miggytronz
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who makes that?
thezerofire
Banned
I guess, but you're using your thumb not your whole hand. If you do get it, let us know how it goes
They are custom made controllers, they make them for you when you order off their ebay page, its $120 for a wired and $130 for wireless. Wish a company like MadCatz would make something like this so it could be cheaper though. But eh for $20 more than the MLG controller its not THAT bad.
All Bungie Pro features will be gone. If you have render minutes, spend them.
Edit: Decide what nameplate you want, you could be stuck with it forever:
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=69782750&postRepeater1-p=5
That's a lot of money for a controller with an intangible "boost" to your gameplay. Of course, I don't think much about "deadzones" and whatnot so it's probably not made for people like me.
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