killer rin
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..Okay you got me; LMFAO
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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights
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..Okay you got me; LMFAO
HiredN00bs
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You would think putting a waypoint and more points on the leader would get stupid people to play FFA more correctly. Guess some people can't be saved.
Never said anything of the kind. If you've never ousted an entrenched leader preying on newbies, that's a sure way to not win.
Halo 4 has many problems, but Regicide's gametype idea isn't one of them. Too many Regicide challenges, though.
The P of Poland
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The correct way to play FFA is to kill everyone you see. That's why it's Free For All. You don't ally with other players to take down the leader.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Wouldn't you have to fix MGS4 first?
My experience with Halo starts really with 3, a lot of Reach, and now a ton of 4. So I can't make a call on if H2 era MP was really what made Halo fuck awesome, and if going to that formula would make H4 with updates or H5 even more likable for my tastes.
I LIKE instant respawn EXCEPT on certain game types. I don't see the point of it in Swat for example.
Ordnance drops are a problem? How ? 80% of the time what I can call in is crap(shields,speed boost, a shotgun on a big ass map), and even more so it's little things for global drops. Often those drops are grenades, needlers, and scatters.
I'd get it if ordnance was making it rain damage boosts and rockets galore, but it doesn't.
343 should I agree just give you guys 1 or 2 playlists with no ordnance, weapon spawns, no instant spawns, no run, BR only, no perks, etc etc and 1 be slayer and the other be objectives. That way you have the choice and everyone can stfu.
The Henery
Member
Lol at the crying sun. Did doziz really sell halo 4? Inheritor in reach sells halo 4.
I feel like you didn't adapt to what was going on. Were you with randoms or people you knew? If it's randoms you were fucked from the get go since all of the opposing team seems to know each other if they all did that together.
I'd plop out a hologram class, send it whirling in, they waste their boltshot shot, then bring the pain. If they don't fall for that, then try toss in nades to flush them out to move or see their shields glow electric yellow. Just a matter of not getting too close and them blowing their load.
I use boltshot too though. It's a great way to kill someone who is going to kill you anyway when they rush you when your shields drop.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Creating a weird Mario Kart scoring system that helps everyone have a close game by killing the leader over and over isn't what FFA needed. Its a good player handicap system to protect the casuals.
In FFA you don't go for the leader its too fast paced, you make do with every spawn you get and become the leader by playing well. Furthermore it possibly adds more randomness than removes because based on your spawn distance to leader you could end up getting tons of random regicides based on luck...
How don't you understand this?
HiredN00bs
Member
Incorrect. I was speaking in the most general sense. And you do if you're smart.
Garrett 2U
Member
They actually released that stat.
They fluctuate right around the amount of gravity hammers.
For the record, I've seen the Gravity Hammer in my ordnance choices under a dozen times, nades are there 2/3 of the time.
So yeah.
P.S. Know what is more annoying than browsing Waypoint on a mobile device?
Browsing it on a PC.
squidhands
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Picture fat, overstuffed Americans with turducken greased fingers trying to grip their Halo 4 controller while desperately hiding their feeble Cortana-erections from Grandma.
And a yam is when someone can't pronounce "sweet potato".
HiredN00bs
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I'm not going to argue with you Juices. Primarily because I'm on my phone, but also because you aren't capable of arguing with me and I have no patience for stupidity.
Played by myself. I'm guessing the other team was in a party, but I have no way of knowing, as the lobby doesn't say whether or not they are. I used Hologram for awhile but then they stopped falling for it lol. Grenades were hit and miss, I had no idea where they actually were. Hologram users don't show up on radar at all if they're not moving. No scrambling effect either.
There's just a handful of things holding the multiplayer game back. I really hope TUs go as far as I'm hoping.
Regicide is a great "party" gametype, but it's a horrible competitive gametype.
It's like second place winning the gold medal.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Yep.
Garrett 2U
Member
I think it would have been interesting if they would have balanced Spartan Ops around not being able to respawn.
You know, since War Games is the simulation, and Spartan Ops is supposed to be the real missions.
HiredN00bs
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It really isn't. But you could try making an even-handed analysis if you really care.
xxjuicesxx
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Steelyuhas
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The entire spawning and lives system in Spartan Ops is pretty whack.
I'm glad there is unlimited with the way spawns are currently set up though because typically when I die, it will repeatedly spawn me into sniper fire or right into the loving arms of a Elite with a sword and I'll proceed to get spawn killed 10 times in a row.
Just don't act like you own this place
HiredN00bs
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lol facts
Juices, you are the biggest troll here. Stop projecting.
Do you mean Camo users? I don't use camo myself, but I swore as long as it's active the blue markers come up. The only time they can crouch and have no scrambling is just by crouching with the camo off. Did that change from Reach that you can crouch and be camoed with no scrambling effect up?
HiredN00bs
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Oh I'm sorry, I can't post ignorant one-liners like Juices and Tunavi too?
It's really not, and I've made several meattier posts about why it is a better design than base FFA. Basically, it helps players make better desicions in an FFA by marking the leader, and by giving incentive for lower players to pursue him, as well as incentive for him to stay alive and continue killing. People are judging it without much thought.
You can't just insult someone's intelligence because they disagree with you.
xxjuicesxx
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People are literally doing better and losing and coming here posting links that are visual statistical proof of facts. This is actually a thing that is happening in real life in 2012. Regicide's not a competitive gametype, it is a party gametype.
Yes...I'm ignorant. You are just defending shit for no reason to cause problems. You are a troll and have been a troll since your Trueskill shtick.
The P of Poland
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lolwut
Way to be arrogant and dismissive
People have. Juices just DID, and you promptly called him incapable of arguing with you, when you're the one who's refused to argue at all, other than some vague crap about people in FFA needing to ally against the leader.
It's already uneven teams so JiP working perrfectly.
bobs...onGaf
Member
That is amazing lol.
What is the PDW, is it a AR?
I love the fact I can see my K/D in the scoreboard, really liking what I am playing so far. Feels like a lot of the menu's are a step backwards though, the new custom class stuff is a clusterfuck and why the hell did they get rid of all the leaderboards etc from Black Ops 1? Or am I just missing them?
Lol hired noobs shut up. Halo did well for years. It wasn't unfair to casuals because they kept playing. why did they have to not only change it, but totally overhaul it? Small changes make more sense.
343 is either too cocky or too much of a mess to make things good. Actually their refusal to accept their failures is still cocky so it's both.
343 is either too cocky or too much of a mess to make things good. Actually their refusal to accept their failures is still cocky so it's both.
holy shit
HiredN00bs
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Juices has nothing. He argued that in order to have a competitive gametype, the team with the best stats must win. That's fallacious right on its face, just take one of his lost griefing matches as an example. Killing some AFK guy in a corner just isn't worth as much as someone checking the leader in an FFA. Regicide is objective FFA where the objective is to pursue the leader and maintain the lead. The same as a base FFA game.
Orochinagis
Member
Instant win. I hate you
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Most of Halo 4 is good in many opinions. That's the issue here, a handful of people assuming that Halo 4 is bad and that's a fact. It's not a fact, it's an opinion. Halo 4 demolishes Reach in every way save the removal of Firefight. Needs some fixes and tweaks yeah, but it's a solid game to a lot of people.
That's why the "every page" RIP HALO stuff gets tiring. Might have made Noobs snap a bit too.
Nope, if you're either immobile or crouching while using camo (can't remember which), you don't show up on the minimap at all. No scrambling, nothing. I don't know why camo got a buff, but it did.
scar tissue
Banned
Is it just me, or could armor lock be balanced if it was a one-time activation for exactly 1,5 seconds only (with a long recharge), similar to thruster packs?
You could use it to block a single incoming rocket or vehicle, but you can't spam it.
You could use it to block a single incoming rocket or vehicle, but you can't spam it.
bobs...onGaf
Member
I will now direct you to a previous post of yours:
You cant call anyone a troll lol.
I dont think people would mind so much if Regicide didnt replace standard FFA.
Overhaul is a pretty elegant way of saying "turned it on it's head to appease the Dynamic Gods and threw a Web 2.0 veneer over it" lol
FFA is (not counting general skill) 50% maximizing opportunity, 20% PW control, 20% knowing when to hold your fire, and 10% luck of the spawns.
The top 3 players are the only ones who should give a shit about who is in the lead. The rest are fodder. There is nothing wrong with that, at least compared to slingshot BK wins.
Shame that there isn't a FFA playlist, although if it was Infinity style I'd hate to see it.
The top 3 players are the only ones who should give a shit about who is in the lead. The rest are fodder. There is nothing wrong with that, at least compared to slingshot BK wins.
Shame that there isn't a FFA playlist, although if it was Infinity style I'd hate to see it.
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