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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights
- Thread starter The Librarian
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Appreciate being called a moron.
At least you can justify what you don't like, right? I mean...right?
This happens all the time in Reach as well. And if it is actually frozen, then all you can do is to restart your Xbox (disconnect the controller, if the light for it on Xbox does not vanish, then it is frozen).
if you went in with a 2 and a 50, you'd probably face people ranks 35 and up.
The P of Poland
Member
The original CE didn't have online matchmaking, though.
Seriously, a slightly tweaked H2A might be the best thing that could possibly happen to Halo at this point, emphasize to 343 just how popular the old ways still are.
In my 5,000+ games of Reach this has never happened.
Here's to hoping the classic playlist is "classic"
I would kickstart a simple Halo 2 HD port.
What are you talking about, this is the beta. I just hope they fix it in time for Christmas.
ElzarTheBam
Member
When reach first launched, it happened to me occasionally.
Never really knew why it did it though.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Not really. I miss Halo 3 though. Reach was ok but I just really hated the Armor Abilities.
Devolution
Member
Yes please.
No. Does one have to be cumming on the box or else they hate it? There are significant flaws despite the fun I have.
no lol. As many problems as Halo 4 has, it's way better than Reach. Bloom was the worst.
Release H2A with a title update that:
- fixes the glitches and matchmaking issues in Halo 4
- bring in-game clans, ranking system
- adds more custom options, such as toggling flag pick up, oddball throwing, strafing, etc
- comes with a playlist that replaces slayer pro - it would basically play exactly like the old Halos. Call it classic slayer.
- a couple of maps from Halo 2. Say, Lockout and Waterworks.
It would appease a lot of hardcore Halo fans that are turned off by infinity slayer. The campaign doesn't need a graphics overhaul so pop-in and framerate could be improved. The playerbase wouldn't be split because the changes would be a TU which adds to the base game - it wouldn't be an entirely different game. The extra maps will be handled just like the other new maps will.
The Librarian
Banned
Here's a good list of what I like about Halo 4.
1. I really like the weapons. Not since Halo: CE has the sandbox been close to having every weapon be uniquely powerful. And Halo 4, more so than 2, 3, ODST, and Reach, comes closest to that. The only weapons I dont find particularly satisfying to use are the plasma pistol and the Suppressor. Out of a game with upwards of 20+ weapons, thats quite the awesome achievement.
2. The best story in a while. Thought it left me very much confused, the presentation of the story and its overall cohesiveness is far better than what we got in Halo 3, ODST, and Reach.
3. Interesting opportunities to explore in the campaign. I sung praises about the opening to Requiem and Ill repeat it here one of the best, if not the best, openings to a Halo level ever. Theres plenty to discover if you take the time to look around. And thats only the beginning! Theres stuff like audio logs and ways to interact with the environment that tell you more about the fiction, like that area in
More of this please.
4. The terminals. Great presentation, good voice acting. Keep it up!
5. The concept of Reclaimer. Within this level I think is one of the keys for the future of the franchise: taking the Halo sandbox and pairing it with unique concepts, like a fully-fledged hubworld. Whatever your feelings about Reclaimer, you have to admit that nothing like it has been done before in a Halo game, and for that it was refreshing and should be applauded.
6. Weapon feedback. Most, if not all the guns are very fun to fire. Probably the best gun feedback in the series. LOVE.
7. King of the Hill. I think it was a smart move to let every player know where the hill was going to spawn next. I think this adds a lot more depth to the gametype because youre trying to coordinate with your teammates about who should remain in the hill and who should go after the new one. Im having more fun in KotH in Halo 4 than I did in any other game.
8. The decision to limit grenades to two and not having grenade pickups. I was skeptical of the change at first, but now Im completely behind it. I find myself thinking how best to use a grenade rather than mindlessly chucking one. Grenades are well balanced too.
9. The base gameplay is great and is more akin to the Halo I know and love and grew up with.
10. Voice actor for the Didact is great. Was completely terrified of him when
11. I enjoyed the interactions between Chief and Cortana in the campaign.
12. Main menu is awesome.
1. I really like the weapons. Not since Halo: CE has the sandbox been close to having every weapon be uniquely powerful. And Halo 4, more so than 2, 3, ODST, and Reach, comes closest to that. The only weapons I dont find particularly satisfying to use are the plasma pistol and the Suppressor. Out of a game with upwards of 20+ weapons, thats quite the awesome achievement.
2. The best story in a while. Thought it left me very much confused, the presentation of the story and its overall cohesiveness is far better than what we got in Halo 3, ODST, and Reach.
3. Interesting opportunities to explore in the campaign. I sung praises about the opening to Requiem and Ill repeat it here one of the best, if not the best, openings to a Halo level ever. Theres plenty to discover if you take the time to look around. And thats only the beginning! Theres stuff like audio logs and ways to interact with the environment that tell you more about the fiction, like that area in
Shutdown where you could push a button and learn about some artifacts the team was researching.
4. The terminals. Great presentation, good voice acting. Keep it up!
5. The concept of Reclaimer. Within this level I think is one of the keys for the future of the franchise: taking the Halo sandbox and pairing it with unique concepts, like a fully-fledged hubworld. Whatever your feelings about Reclaimer, you have to admit that nothing like it has been done before in a Halo game, and for that it was refreshing and should be applauded.
6. Weapon feedback. Most, if not all the guns are very fun to fire. Probably the best gun feedback in the series. LOVE.
7. King of the Hill. I think it was a smart move to let every player know where the hill was going to spawn next. I think this adds a lot more depth to the gametype because youre trying to coordinate with your teammates about who should remain in the hill and who should go after the new one. Im having more fun in KotH in Halo 4 than I did in any other game.
8. The decision to limit grenades to two and not having grenade pickups. I was skeptical of the change at first, but now Im completely behind it. I find myself thinking how best to use a grenade rather than mindlessly chucking one. Grenades are well balanced too.
9. The base gameplay is great and is more akin to the Halo I know and love and grew up with.
10. Voice actor for the Didact is great. Was completely terrified of him when
he was released from his Cryptum, and a lot of that had to do with the voice.
11. I enjoyed the interactions between Chief and Cortana in the campaign.
12. Main menu is awesome.
The Henery
Member
Oh yea, I had a host quit which caused a black screen. The black screen didn't go away after a few minutes and I was forced to dashboard quit.
It was taking us over five minutes to get a game earlier in a gaf party. Often it just aborted the search.
After the black screen game, I played a game on Solace where players were teleporting around, proper red bar stuff.
This all happened tonight. The servers seemed to be having a lot of issues.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
I am loving all the game modes TBH, and Im not really getting a heavies vibe from BTB except for maybe some bad matches on Exile or Ragnarok. Exile is just a little weird for the tank; replace it with the mantis and trim down the other vehicles. Longbow is probably my favorite BTB map, but I am loving em all. So far I am enjoying the smaller maps, but I still am in the air about Abandon, but Im leaning positive with it.. Haven is amazing. We need a lot more maps like it and I bet voting data backs that up. Complex should be BTB.. is it in Dominion?
Speaking of Dominion, I really like it.. It is just a lot of fun and really inspire some awesome teamwork.
The biggest obvious bust is Forge. The maps look like crap tbh, and they really dont provide a nice bank slate to start with either. I like hope the natural rocks adopt some of the maps texture.. It would be cool if that could be applied to structures to make them a little overgrown looking or something.
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I'm in the minority here, aren't I?
Speaking of Dominion, I really like it.. It is just a lot of fun and really inspire some awesome teamwork.
The biggest obvious bust is Forge. The maps look like crap tbh, and they really dont provide a nice bank slate to start with either. I like hope the natural rocks adopt some of the maps texture.. It would be cool if that could be applied to structures to make them a little overgrown looking or something.
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I'm in the minority here, aren't I?
Let's play some Swordbase AR starts!
Hell no. H4 might have some BS, but nowhere NEAR as much as lolReach.
xxjuicesxx
Member
I miss the idea of Reach.
The P of Poland
Member
kyle has to be feeling so vindicated right now, he's probably going to be gloating for some time.
Rickenslacker
Banned
What's Reach?
Devolution
Member
The writing was on the wall as soon as stuff was mentioned that's not particularly inclusive to Halo but other FPS games. It was more of a question of whether stripped out gametypes would be available. I called this as well.
ElzarTheBam
Member
I agree Daxy, KOTH is a great playlist.
It's also a playlist that has received sensible changes.
It's also a playlist that has received sensible changes.
I kinda want the grenade launcher back.
Syphon Filter
Member
Fixed.
Okay, all the time was hyperbole but it has happened to me some 10 times at least. Once for Halo 4... or maybe it was some other crash (since it was still in "looking for players" menu).
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
Going back and quoting all the stuff I knew was going to be stupid and surprise, turns out everyone thinks its stupid would take me way too long.
The core gameplay is good, having a regular fight with someone else one on one is amazing, but they dun goofed with it comes to everything else.
Syphon Filter
Member
Reach is the better game. Seems more inspired and thought out. H4 seems like cod in a halo skin basically.
Hydranockz
Member
Having 5 players, I am always so torn between KOTH, CTF and Oddball. Objective in 4 is really fun. Nailing some awesome ball throws, locking down a hill or securing a flag, lot's of fun scenarios.
Playlist management will be curious to watch.
Playlist management will be curious to watch.
eh, I dunno. I played it on Adrift and the hills just move way too fast. We outkilled the other team big time AND always rushed for the hills whenever we could, and only won by like 2 seconds. There's barely any defense required, its more of a race to get there first.
Rickenslacker
Banned
The sticky launcher in 4 feels more like the sticky launcher of the demo in TF2 since the shots are so direct, but it's also slower to get mid-air explosions with it I find. I like it for trap purposes because the grenade launcher made it impossible to place on perfectly as a setup, but I like the aesthetic and the direct combat capabilities of the GL.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Why I die from an AR/other machine gun aside from the saw I instantly fly into Sawed off Bullshit mode from Gears 3.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Dude, you need a hobby. Game is incredible.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
I kinda feel this screenshot mislead us about the scale on some environments in SP:
Also, I wonder what happened to the Falcon.
Also, I wonder what happened to the Falcon.
I bet he's thrilled that there are a lot of problems with a game that he wants to like!
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
This is instant respawns in action.
I know why they're doing it, but they need to get rid of it in objectives/Slayer Pro.
Is that screenshot from the campaign theater they cut out to save Forge?
The P of Poland
Member
You ask this question of people that are just coming off playing Reach for two straight years. It was an above average game, but everyone's still sick to death of it.
H4 on the other hand was released less than a week ago and people are still going through the honeymoon period.
You're not going to get an evenhanded answer.
They're doing it because people have become too ADD to wait 3-8 seconds. They're chasing the CoD crowd, simply put. And it's futile because the game still takes too much skill for that crowd to stick around once BO2 comes out.
Yea I'm sure he would rather gloat than enjoy Halo like he used to.
Why justify it? I've been justifying what I don't like about Halo since before you and most people here started browsing GAF. Shit doesn't change. There's no point. All these people writing logical critiques will be ignored. 343 got their nice 9.8 from IGN which they can stick on the back of the box, they sold a bunch of Mountain Dew, Microsoft assuredly sold a ton of copies, and now 90% of the player population will leave to play Blops 2 in a few days and everyone here will sit around twiddling thumbs and complaining until Halo 5 releases. At least with Bungie there was an illusion that their games were catered to making some parts of the community happy. Halo 4 is just a cash grab at COD, designed by executives at Microsoft. Period. Multiplayer is fundamentally broken when played at anything remotely approaching a competitive level. This is not Halo. Throwing BRs and recharging shields into a grab bag of mechanics doesn't automatically = Halo.
I mean people either tell me
"Speak your mind now because there's no use in complaining after the game is out!"
or
"You haven't played it yet, you can't judge anything that you see!"
at a certain point why bother.
Not really, same thing happened during Reach. During one of the first days of the Reach beta, I said bleedthrough needs to be brought back, bloom is a dumb mechanic, pistol needs to have a larger clip and made more powerful, grenades need to be weakened, Arena would be a failure, and that the map design was a mess. I'm no soothsayer, it's just anyone with a remote understanding of what makes prior Halo games great can see the faults.
I'm not happy about people not enjoying Halo 4. When I complain about things it is because I want it to be better. This is my favorite multiplayer series and one of my favorite franchises in all of video games. Shit I played over 12,000 games of Halo 3. I wish I loved this game but I don't.
The Librarian
Banned
The biggest change I would make to the playlist right now is the map selection. I don't think Valhalla should be on there because it's too big of a map for 5v5 KotH. Sometimes the hills spawn all the way on one side of the map while one team is on the opposite and. I think Adrift doesn't work well for Oddball or KotH because it's too indirect. It's hard to to your objective quickly.
I mean, who doesn't?!
amen.
Campaign theater is for devs only.
If you get killed by a cone or something funny you might get access to it. They'll do some obscure community challenges and give out campaign theater to individuals who win things. In about a year they will make a spinoff Halo 4 with Commander Palmer and her teams and you'll have to complete achievements to finally unlock Campaign Theater for yourself.
Beli343
Last week's Weekend Confirmed podcast had some great commentary on the game. My favorite observation was the one made by Jeff Cannata: Halo 4's campaign is all about running around hitting switches and inserting Cortana into terminals. And that's all the Chief does besides shoot things. I wish I had noticed that sooner.
And I've come around on my opinion of the story. Before I thought it was cool that the Chief was gonna be on a Forerunner planet with the Infinity hovering above but I'm tired of it. Halo 4 would have been much more interesting experience if the plot had left Chief abandoned and on his own. Encountering a brand new enemy (as opposed to an existing expanded universe character) on the planet, or maybe another race of aliens, would have way more interesting.
And I've come around on my opinion of the story. Before I thought it was cool that the Chief was gonna be on a Forerunner planet with the Infinity hovering above but I'm tired of it. Halo 4 would have been much more interesting experience if the plot had left Chief abandoned and on his own. Encountering a brand new enemy (as opposed to an existing expanded universe character) on the planet, or maybe another race of aliens, would have way more interesting.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
Have you played any customs? We should get together and play some customs one of these days, I want to see how it is with all the dumb stuff turned off.
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