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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights
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Syphon Filter
Member
adapt brah
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Vindicated why? Because half of HaloGaf likes the game and half only likes the base gameplay?
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
If someone likes the instant respawns on king/ball I'm going to hit them.
in the teeth.
Keep instant respawns in IS/BTB. Turn it off in everything else. If not, shorten shield respawn time.
It's a much better weapon to keep than the concussion rifle. That thing is terrible at everything.
It's a much better weapon to keep than the concussion rifle. That thing is terrible at everything.
I love certain things about the MP. Slayer Pro is great, love the custom starts in infinity. But here's my criticism after a week of lots of play: 343 changed too much though, its absolutely alienating.
No more consistent weapon drops is not a good change. Halo maps used to have unique gameplay that was associated with certain weapons on the map and now that's completely gone.
Objective has pretty much been ruined. CTF botched, 1 flag gone, assault gone, ect.
No death X's, no waypoint for teammates shooting/taking fire. Really puts a damper on battlefield awareness.
Camo and jetpack STILL SUCK. Pro vision is stupidly OP. AA's need to stick to campaign and stay out of MP.
Why isn't file sharing working? It's most important closest to launch, pretty bizarre to not have it ready.
Complex is a bad map on par with Uncaged, just not as ugly.
edit: and where are the final kill cams?
No more consistent weapon drops is not a good change. Halo maps used to have unique gameplay that was associated with certain weapons on the map and now that's completely gone.
Objective has pretty much been ruined. CTF botched, 1 flag gone, assault gone, ect.
No death X's, no waypoint for teammates shooting/taking fire. Really puts a damper on battlefield awareness.
Camo and jetpack STILL SUCK. Pro vision is stupidly OP. AA's need to stick to campaign and stay out of MP.
Why isn't file sharing working? It's most important closest to launch, pretty bizarre to not have it ready.
Complex is a bad map on par with Uncaged, just not as ugly.
edit: and where are the final kill cams?
Syphon Filter
Member
It's not in,they lied about classic. Still has sprint,kill cams,xp ,score system from cod.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I really wish I could meet (in person) people who say stupid shit like this on anonymous forums.
He must be a soothsayer, because all of that was true.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
If you knew you were right, you should've moved on a long time ago. You make decent points, but it's really hard to read with all the negativity.
Rand0m TAG
Member
It's surprisingly negative in here. 4 may have some problems but the game is addictively fun
Rickenslacker
Banned
Even sticking to campaign only, they need to broaden the usage of them. I don't want to only use thruster in 10 minutes of one level, while keeping jetpack on me for the majority of 2. Let me have ample opportunities to swap them out and shift playstyles. It also doesn't help that it can be difficult to identify that there are AAs to pick up at times since they're just random blocks and pieces this time around, as opposed to packs with a hologram illustrating what they are.
I agree with all of that.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
He still likes Halo, even if he hates all the "dumb shit."
He sticks around because he's hoping it won't let him down. In his mind, he was proven right, but he will still play it (at least for now) because it's one of the best (if not the best) games on XBL right now (at least until next week).
Telling someone like Kyle, or Juices, or any of the other HaloGAFers who are complaining to "move on" is just as stupid a statement as one "DickinmouthGAF" has when they defend developers.
fixed.
Christ, not like Halo 2 pure classic.
I mean lets just put in static weapon spawns and preset loadouts.
The P of Poland
Member
That's not what I meant at all. I meant that he'd be gloating that the people in here who vehemently opposed him on various issues leading up to release have now for the most part shut up or are complaining about the game as well. He's been proven right.
Actually, I think it's more a 2:1 ratio at this point in Team Downer's favor. Regardless, that there is this much of a backlash, including people like Bobs and Ghaleon who a week and a half ago were very, very hyped for H4, says something bad about the game.
Indeed. Though i'm not surprised at the negativity, i can see why people don't like some stuff... I do love it all. Well, nearly all of it, this has some problems.
The main one being the UI, lack of red X, stuff like that.
Reach was never this addictively fun, Halo 3 was (Halo 2 was for local multiplayer, didn't care for MM though).
Suck? Yeah, no. The HLS has saved me average once per game, usually more. Almost OP if used correctly, denying a kill for an enemy. Jetpack is still jetpack, fucking annoying.
The Librarian
Banned
Well, to be fair, that was misleading yourself. There was no proper context and a lot of people here assumed the encounters would be large based off that one screenshot. That's not 343's fault. I went in expecting the overall quality and size of the encounters wouldn't match Halo 3, and for the most part that's what was given to me.
Additionally,
that screenshot is from Reclaimer, which DID have the largest encounters in the game, and contained the only encounters that came anywhere close to Halo 3's quality. And there was a reason for that it took a lot of cues from Tsavo Highway and The Ark.
He doesn't like most of the stuff he said he wouldn't like. I'm shocked.
xxjuicesxx
Member
I want to fix MP for you all. Sorry guys.
Or are like me who have been playing the game a ton and enjoying it. But I see what you mean.
edit: I just realized for years that I've been complaining about being forced to start with AR/SMG. Now in Slayer Pro, I choose to start with AR :lol
Zoso Achilles
Member
Fuck this game's weapon spawning system. Seriously. Playing big team on Valhalla (which is torture, by the way) and some dude on the enemy team continuously gets binary rifles and incineration cannons, snipers, beam rifle, everything. I got a speed boost and a saw. Can we go back to having weapons on the map please?
Should you fight to me, you're going to rage (well, i assume you wouldn't like it how i use it) at how much i use the shield. Someone shooting me? Shield and go to cover. 3 out of my 4 loadouts have the shield...
Devolution
Member
Hey now. At the core it's still a game worth playing. Squad Slayer kept a lot of people in Reach a lot longer than they would have been. Still not quite sure why it was axed. If you're someone who enjoys balance, longer life spans and not being killed randomly over and over, Halo was your game. They've since moved away from this philosophy and given those who prefer this stuff just enough crumbs to make us think they might care. Then when the game feels oh so close to this, it's got this added layer that shits all over the initial MM designs that people who've played since 1 fell in love with. I miss that Halo too.
When I look at just why I stuck with Halo so long, it's quite obvious, it was something I could play well, pick up whenever and kill people in without having to grind out anything or account for more than a couple variables.
HiredN00bs
Member
Hey I said it was going to be shitty, now I'm saying it's shitty, I must be super smart and correct. I didn't present any sound arguments before and I'm not going to now.
Sucks as in, annoying. ;]
Ah. Well then. I'll use more shield. Too bad it can't be used while crouching (like it removing me from crouch automatically, that would be a nice thing, not even a buff really).
Well, that's purely because they made it a viable option. That's something that Bungie refused to do for some reason.
BlueScrote
Member
Why can't I choose the difficulty when matchmaking on spartan ops? There is no way I'm gonna go through them on legendary solo.
we can't even play traditional Halo settings in customs can we?
also juices this is a good post
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Same here. And getting a party for that takes way too much work, especially since i'd have to find 3 Europeans to play with (the closer to Finland and the better the connection, the better).
That's a terrible thing to wish. I'm sorry you aren't having fun but I'm enjoying the hell out of it. I'm not against tweaks but this doom and gloom is ridiculous, especially your crap.
So do I, and what's most infuriating is I genuinely have enough self belief to say that I could improve it. At this point it isn't difficult, there's some basic standards that need to be resurrected, some basic elements of Halo that 343 laid to rest, which need bringing back.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
I said this a while ago. Glad to say I still agree and am hopeful of Halo 4's potential being fully realized. There is an amazing Halo experience here, just might take some time for quite a few of you.
Just because we disagree with Kyle doesn't mean that you can invalidate his arguments. He has made well-reasoned posts about what he doesn't like and deserves to voice them.
Come on, man.
Also I think he took my joke about justification a hair too seriously.
Paradicia
Member
I'm finding it difficult getting into the groove of this compared to past halos even after nearly 18 hours playtime. My K/D is inconsistent across the board in comparison to past halo games.
Does anyone else miss that fun halo 3 style of gameplay? Not to say that 4 isn't fun but it doesn't have the same impact past games had on me personally. It's probably just nostalgia fading in, but boy do I miss the way the old games played. So many good memories. Halo 4 is a different beast altogether...
Does anyone else miss that fun halo 3 style of gameplay? Not to say that 4 isn't fun but it doesn't have the same impact past games had on me personally. It's probably just nostalgia fading in, but boy do I miss the way the old games played. So many good memories. Halo 4 is a different beast altogether...
BlueScrote
Member
How the hell did Camo make it out of testing? Is there any counter to it?
Let's do some Ragnarok math. Two Mantises, two Banshees, two Warthogs, four Mongeese, two Ghosts. Twelve vehicles. Two railguns, two sniper rifles, one rocket launcher, one laser. Six power weapons.
Why are there 14 power options, discounting the Mongeese, in a map variant that is going to have just 10 people on it in a 5v5 playlist? In what world does that make any sense at all?
I bet that map would play pretty good if it had a variant that wasn't a constant power weapon and vehicle disaster.
Why are there 14 power options, discounting the Mongeese, in a map variant that is going to have just 10 people on it in a 5v5 playlist? In what world does that make any sense at all?
I bet that map would play pretty good if it had a variant that wasn't a constant power weapon and vehicle disaster.
What do you mean? Slow and methodical? Or what?
I do know i miss something from earlier Halos... yet i enjoy this far more than anything i've played before, i think.
Radar jammer. Look at your radar, grenades and automatics to try to light up Camo guys shields, killcam.
IMO the PromVision should should camo, whereas the holo would then counter the PromVision.
Arnie pls.
The P of Poland
Member
And then he realized that the new and improved Camo doesn't even show the radar jammer when the camo user is crouching.
I know I'm over simplifying it, but I'd just like to know why they felt compelled to completely reinvent the Halo formula. And what was so broken about various elements of Halo, and if that's what they thought, why they jumped at the chance to develop Halo 4?
Paradicia
Member
I miss the slow methodical approach. Sprint on demand changes up the whole flow of how fights are won and lost.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
The bigger problem is they gave everybody 3x scope, matches become a game of pinging people across the map with the DMRs, hiding in rocks and getting in high location to rain DMR death down. The whole pillar of "Shoot/Melee/Grenades" is irrevocably broken. I think I can count my melee kills on that map on one hand.
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