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Halo |OT14| They call it Halo
- Thread starter Overdoziz
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Look at the population charts or what some of us are saying what we are playing.. We don't play it.
Doesn't change that we can post in the Halo community thread.
And no what you are saying is not true, there was also alot of crying, screaming and whining back then with Halo 2, but there were really good contructive criticisms.
And guess what these exist also with Halo 4. Of course there are more who just whine instead of posting a long good written post.
Whoa, lets not read that much into it. I think all everyone's taking issue with is a certain type of discourse thats been snowballing for the past month in this thread that just needs to be reigned back in, and that any humour there was in it is growing sour now.
Finding good feedback on HaloGaf is like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
I just said that about halo 2.
And I don't agree with you about discussion of 4. It just devolves into halo is dead. Fix this. Fix that. Bring back ghis or that. Make it like halo 2/3.
Instead of develop this, develop that. Introduce this. Halo 2 /3 are played out. We don't need another one. Halo 4 is ridiculously fresh. So much potential if people can get over the fact it is not halo 2/3.
The Henery
Member
Is this a joke? This is a joke right guys?
you're free to leave. tired of people like yourself who joined to talk to frankie, and now frankie left so people lament the downfall of halogaf. halogaf is the same as its ever been, except now there are way more people so the close-knit community feel is gone. people complain, people act stupid, people get banned, people post good feedback, discussion about the past and future of halo is had. go back to waypoint or hbo or bnet or readyuplive or wherever if this place is so intolerable.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
1 game constitutes a legacy? Ehhh okay. Besides Halo 2 was the best MP Halo game.
Oh yes I read your sentence about Halo 2 wrong, sorry
But where does it end? Where do we say okay this is now too much introduced ..does it still relate to the others? Will we have ADS in the next game?
I understand what you mean, but I've read great posts about a possible Halo 4 update, sandbox tweaks, because some stuff is needed, fixes for bugs that are just shameful
Of course there is a lot of stuff people are asking for that would change the game back, and yesI hae to admit I am one of them.
Erm. Fucking yeah it constitutes a legacy, when it managed to destroy so many preconceptions of the genre, in a way that worked so well and ended up being copied for so long.
Halo 2 was far from the best halo Mp. It was full, full, full of exploits, standbyers, super jumpers. Then it also got duel wielding / spray and pray so wrong. As well as bad design / bugs such a sword flying. It was a mess after something as clean, simple and playable as Halo 1 mp.
Halo 3 then refined that and probably found a middle ground for the old school halo 1 players and the halo 2 kids.
I didn't join to talk to Frankie nor am I a member of HBO or Readyuplive. I was just saying that there are so many posts on here saying "Take aa's, perks, sprint, etc out of the game" "Halo 4 sucks" "343 is terrible". But once in awhile you'll find a good post where someone has something good to say or an idea for the game instead of shitting all over 343 and Halo 4.
Haha, no.
Really? So are you now moderating the thread? Determining what people can or can't discuss? What a stupid condescending post. Shame on you.
NullPointer
Member
If the choice was between Frankie, Wu and others for this:
HaloGAF dun goofed.
Latvian Hitman
Member
Um. That's exactly what's happening. En masse. The multiplayer population for this game is dying off fast.
So guys, like informal poll time, AR or BR? Don't need the why...
bobs...onGaf
Member
I was just on Youtube and stumbled on this Halo 3 video I saw a few years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBDEoyVRh0k
Still love it, nostalgic pangs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBDEoyVRh0k
Still love it, nostalgic pangs.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
I think it was less about kylej and more about the insinuation of Barlow not contributing "quality" posts.
I disagree on the hype behind this. Many types of posts can easily be found IMO.
NullPointer
Member
Both.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Lucky you. That game is the bane of my existence. I've beaten every goddamn Halo game including Halo 4 on Legendary except Halo 2.
DMR
The identity of Halo would be a fun game. How do you figure it would lose its identity if Halo better implemented AAs and loadouts while still allowing players to enjoy classic Halo if they so wish?
I certainly don't feel the identity of Halo is compromised because you can do Rocket Race or Grifball.
The identity of Halo would be a fun game. How do you figure it would lose its identity if Halo better implemented AAs and loadouts while still allowing players to enjoy classic Halo if they so wish?
I certainly don't feel the identity of Halo is compromised because you can do Rocket Race or Grifball.
I died more times than I'm willing to admit. It got to the point where I was just throwing myself at them :\
It's a tad easier on PC I think. I couldn't do it on Xbox
ElRenoRaven
Member
I wish. For me eventually I made it as far as Chief on High Charity. There is very little room to hide and of course you're limited on weaponry. I think the biggest thing about Halo 2's difficulty is the fact that their weapons hit so much harder. I'd take being more of a bullet sponge even. It's like 2 shots and my shields are gone.
What the hell are you talking about? Any discussion that doesn't involve praising the game constitutes "bringing the tone down"? Don't tell me you're that naive.
Nope.
Hey, why don't we all do the cool thing here and blame the "tone of discourse" for chasing away people like Frankie and Wu.
Awesome.
I had to do it on Co-op with a friend. I think we spent 45 mins or so fighting Tartarus. That was back in 04 though. My memory could be stretching it. But I remember it being completely ridiculous.
Thanks man.
I wonder if Jess at least listens to it because she always links it on Waypoint and I would imagine that she filters all content on the site.
NullPointer
Member
I've completed legendary runs of Halo 3, ODST, Reach and Halo 4, all with the same co-op partner, but for some reason Halo Anniversary broke him. It was a sad sight to witness.
Although to be fair, I barely made it to the end of ODST. That damn highway... I've never broken a controller out of frustration, but I was close ;P
Although to be fair, I barely made it to the end of ODST. That damn highway... I've never broken a controller out of frustration, but I was close ;P
It's mostly the same, but there are a few bits of new levels and stuff that wasn't in the original.
I speak the truth HaloGAF won't.
Is this where we bring up infamous arguments of AR/BR threads just like Halo 3 times?
I'm falling in love with you more and more each day.
The Librarian
Banned
What about the members over there? Do you even read your own posts? I read your posts, and I don't assume everything you write is an "an attack on 343 of people who disagree with [you]." I simply poke easy holes in your numerous and ridiculous generalizations. Here's what you originally said and what I took issue with:
This speaks nothing of the "I was talking only about the people who are more invested" point you talked about later. You are, not arbitrarily but it may as well be, defining who's a Halo fan and who's not by where people most post. This does not, once again, speak anything to "who's more invested." You make a completely different point. This means that you are either terrible at conveying what you really mean, or you do believe what you originally say, but you backtrack rather poorly when asked to expand upon your original statements.
But continue. I guess I'm pretty tired by this point at responding to you anyway.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
lol
Looking forward to the forge playlist and TU. As long as the game has good maps and the core gameplay is still solid. I'm good.
What was H2 like before the TU?
H4's gameplay can only improve after the TU
What was H2 like before the TU?
can't remember anything besides the ridiculous amount of beat downs needed to kill someone...
H4's gameplay can only improve after the TU
COMEBACK KILL! DISTRACTION! ORDNANCE READY! Unlocking armor, weapons, abilities, perks, commendations, generic kill medals - rewards every step of the way.
This game is practically begging to suck our dicks. Maybe some people stopped playing because it was using too much teeth.
I apologize in advance for this post, for the people who don't like negativity.
I have known about HaloGAF for as long as I have been on GAF, and recognized a lot of the people in it, but I never felt comfortable joining in. I found the community somewhat intimidating and it didn't quite align with my opinion at the time. I did post here on occasion when a gaming thread about Halo came up, but for the most part I kept to myself.
I was tempted to start participating more often in the leadup to Halo 4, but while I wanted to talk about the potential positives and negatives of the game (especially the negatives because I was scared) the few times I did check in here there was a crazy amount of dicksucking going on. I continued to feel uncomfortable.
It was only recently that I started to see the general sentiment toward the game lean more in my direction that I was ready to present myself as someone who could thoroughly discuss the game. It started in a gaming thread where I detailed things like combat flow and skill gap. Karl backed me up when people disagreed, and when I found him here in HaloGAF I knew I could hold my own.
So yeah I guess what I'm trying to say is that I understand how it's difficult for people with opinions outside of the majority to participate and feel like they're being heard, and similarly it is also nice for some who may have been at the opposite end of the discussion feeling left out then and not now.
I have known about HaloGAF for as long as I have been on GAF, and recognized a lot of the people in it, but I never felt comfortable joining in. I found the community somewhat intimidating and it didn't quite align with my opinion at the time. I did post here on occasion when a gaming thread about Halo came up, but for the most part I kept to myself.
I was tempted to start participating more often in the leadup to Halo 4, but while I wanted to talk about the potential positives and negatives of the game (especially the negatives because I was scared) the few times I did check in here there was a crazy amount of dicksucking going on. I continued to feel uncomfortable.
It was only recently that I started to see the general sentiment toward the game lean more in my direction that I was ready to present myself as someone who could thoroughly discuss the game. It started in a gaming thread where I detailed things like combat flow and skill gap. Karl backed me up when people disagreed, and when I found him here in HaloGAF I knew I could hold my own.
So yeah I guess what I'm trying to say is that I understand how it's difficult for people with opinions outside of the majority to participate and feel like they're being heard, and similarly it is also nice for some who may have been at the opposite end of the discussion feeling left out then and not now.
HaloGAF was brilliant back in 2007, and it's slowly drifted, coincidentally, with the general aura of the franchise. Perhaps I'm just nostalgic for the days when I'd discuss the actual game intelligently with people who all loved it; there are people who understand the problems facing Halo 4, but very few of us love it. Very few of us actively enjoy it. And a minority of us must be most frustrated of all, because they are enjoying it, are coming here to participate in discussion about it, only to be greeted with negativity.
Negativity isn't inherently bad, though. The most insightful posts I've read in this community over the last three months have been broadly 'negative', but present themselves in a way that frames the game differently, and draws attention to things I'd not thought about or been able to verbalise.
I don't blame anyone for leaving, I'd argue it's a chore to stick around with so little dialogue or development at this present moment.
Negativity isn't inherently bad, though. The most insightful posts I've read in this community over the last three months have been broadly 'negative', but present themselves in a way that frames the game differently, and draws attention to things I'd not thought about or been able to verbalise.
I don't blame anyone for leaving, I'd argue it's a chore to stick around with so little dialogue or development at this present moment.
I think she would have to, no? I doubt they can post just anything to it considering that its an official site that has thousands of eyes on it.
That's my guess, ya. I'm going to drop a "Jess, if you're listening...nod" and see lol. Then I'll know for sure.
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
When is Part 2 of the OST going to be released? I really want to hear this song.
Starts at 2:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=swo9l8OcWCQ#t=149s
Starts at 2:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=swo9l8OcWCQ#t=149s
Not trying to meta-thread whine but: I think this is the main problem. There's nothing to talk about anymore, everything that's been said has been said, and the community has just been around so long it's turned into a lounge room for regulars to post cheap trolls and shit on developers because there quite literally isn't anything better to do.
It doesn't even have to do with positive or negative, the level of discourse has definitely taken a downturn after Reach and Halo 4 have come out. That's why I only pop in and out of this thread even now, it's really disheartening that I love Halo and GAF, but I just can't parse through HaloGAF nowadays, and the regular OT is just dead and not worth sparking discussion because even the intelligent posters are all in this thread and pop up (or make good posts) only here.
I think HaloGAF just needs something more than just "343 is still doing nothing" to talk about. SpOps coming will help stimulate discussion, and so will map pack releases. Between then? Godspeed.