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Halo |OT15| Beta-tested, GAF approved
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Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I may have no plans at all. Add me. (GT: Deadly Cyclone).
Respawns don't bother me that much except in objective games. Doesn't make me easier to kill.
CE kill times weren't anywhere close to COD, which you mentioned in your post. In CE you still had a chance if someone got a jump on you, in CoD you do not (unless they are just horrible). Also Halo 1 was dominated by one weapon most of the time, it was unbalanced.
Great post. A lot of people here haven't played CE and they believe you could perfectly 3 shot every time. Which is false. It was difficult due to the quickness of the strafe/movement and the low aim assist.
I don't think it takes more skill. It's a twitch shooter. 90% of the time, the winner of an encounter is decided by whoever sees the other person first. You don't agree, many people won't. It's just how I feel about that game and why I like Halo.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Yeah but you must've missed what I meant then lol. Actually being able to pull off a 3sk was the fun. When you were on fire with the Pistol the game felt surreal and the competition was fierce.
BUT you also had hilariously fun gametypes if you wanted to play for shits and giggles too. The casual and competitive experiences of Halo 1 are still unmatched. Halo 2 was closer but as a parallel on the other side of the line.
Absolutely, but the point we're trying to make is that what you're saying you like is how it was in Halo 1. The bold in your quote is absolutely false.
Absolutely.
I think you're already on my list. I'll be on this afternoon
I know, sorry if I came off like an ass. Wasn't my intention.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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GG.
Dude's ripped.
Thanks bud. I knew you'd understand since you're part of the OG MLG crew. Wtf happened to that site? RIP.
It's all an illusion. The kill times in CoD and CE are almost the same. The reason you had a chance in CE wasn't because CE had a much longer kill time, it was because CE didn't have slow movement speed and easy aiming like CoD did.
Trust me, I hate CoD as much as you do. You're not listening to what I'm saying. You have to balance ease of aiming with fast kill times otherwise it becomes the very thing you and I hate: a game like CoD which is based on who sees who first. CoD has slow as fuck movement and a SHIT ton of aim assist. This doesn't mesh well with fast kill times.
We need to have the movement speed increased by a ton and then have the aim assist lowered to a fraction of what it is now. After that, it does NOT become a game of who sees who first, but instead a game of actual skill. The goal is to have fast minimum kill times and then much longer average kill times, as opposed to CoD's fast minimum and average kill times.
Yo did you download that thing yet?
Reagan's BR
Banned
Odds are the way Halo 4 handles cinematic is responsible for breaking campaign theatre. In all honesty they probably just broke it and either didn't have time to fix it or couldn't fix it.
I doubt that we will ever see it added as through a TU. Unlike my Megalo ramblings this is pure speculation.
Nice post Kyle.
I doubt that we will ever see it added as through a TU. Unlike my Megalo ramblings this is pure speculation.
Nice post Kyle.
And the other games aren't largely dominated by one weapon?
I'm on team GUI here. Long kill times are what define Halo's gunplay and separate it from COD. CE did have quick kill times, but only with one weapon, not every weapon like COD. And most people here (aside from Big Show) would say that Halo 2 or 3 had the best multiplayer anyway, so arguing that it's right because CE did it is a bit of a moot point.
If 343 did that, if they brought the kill times in line with COD, I'd be done with the series. It would not be the Halo I fell in love with any more.
If 343 did that, if they brought the kill times in line with COD, I'd be done with the series. It would not be the Halo I fell in love with any more.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Non Sarcastic Truth Dong Kyle is Best Kyle.
Kyle is one of my favorite posters because even if he spends 90% of his time talking about porn and being a dick I share his opinions on halo (even if a flavor mine with more optimism) and it's hard to argue with him when he talks so much truth.
My assumption is that Theater was purposely not given attention because it would expose the visual trickery that makes halo look good.
Case in point load up complex in theater fly the cam out to sea and then turn around and look at the "map". Its a mess of untextured low poly geometry.
Halo 4 uses very cleverly designed smaller play spaces so they can crank the graphics on aging hardware.
Kyle is one of my favorite posters because even if he spends 90% of his time talking about porn and being a dick I share his opinions on halo (even if a flavor mine with more optimism) and it's hard to argue with him when he talks so much truth.
My assumption is that Theater was purposely not given attention because it would expose the visual trickery that makes halo look good.
Case in point load up complex in theater fly the cam out to sea and then turn around and look at the "map". Its a mess of untextured low poly geometry.
Halo 4 uses very cleverly designed smaller play spaces so they can crank the graphics on aging hardware.
Sooo good.
Pretty much every weapon had fast kill times in CE. The important distinction is that the average kill times were more than double the fastest possible kill time with the skill-based weapons.
Aye, I read his post and was like:
"Ah! But what abou... You know the.. !!
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The campaign was pretty good."
When you start talking about the areas of the community that have been cut out, it's really hard to put your 343 defense hat on. It's so odd as well, as HSH had been getting loads of front page coverage on Waypoint in the run up to Halo 4.
Thanks bud. I knew you'd understand since you're part of the OG MLG crew. Wtf happened to that site? RIP.
MLG killed it when they switch everything over to gamebattles
"Team GUI" thinks that lowering the kill times will automatically make the game like CoD. A completely false assumption. Don't tell me you're also joining in on this false assumption.
Here, I want you to decide which one of the following two things is more important to you when it comes to Halo.
1. A game with longer kill times.
2. A game not based on who sees who first.
Which do you pick?
But don't I already have both of those things?
[Although I must admit the strafe speed in the E3 build much improved number 2]
EDIT: I pick number 2, but I have to drive home now, so I won't be on to continue this discussion for a little while, sorry.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Halo 3 Kill times are best Kill times.
In fact, Halo 3 is the best halo period. Whoa calm it CE bros and H2 nerds I know you are going to argue that either of those games are better but face it. Halo 3 was the pinnacle of what made Halo great without all the garbage those 2 games had being in the way. It had better balance than Halo CE and a more well rounded and useful sandbox and less glitches than Halo 2.
Equipment was better than AA's hands down and loadouts suck. Halo 3, Team Slayer, The Pit ALL DAY EVERY DAY.
In fact, Halo 3 is the best halo period. Whoa calm it CE bros and H2 nerds I know you are going to argue that either of those games are better but face it. Halo 3 was the pinnacle of what made Halo great without all the garbage those 2 games had being in the way. It had better balance than Halo CE and a more well rounded and useful sandbox and less glitches than Halo 2.
Equipment was better than AA's hands down and loadouts suck. Halo 3, Team Slayer, The Pit ALL DAY EVERY DAY.
I knew something was up when Jessica stopped posting the Speed Run of the Week series.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Reagan's BR
Banned
Good point. I'm not sure if that is the issue but Halo 4's graphics push sacrificed a lot.
MrGreencastle
Member
Damn. Nice posts, kylej.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I'd argue Halo 2, but I love those maps.
Good, game is damn fun and we need to do co-op
I don't think that was the case. I made a post regarding how ranked playlists benefit ALL players, not just pro's and heckfu liked it. I'm pretty sure after my posts/rants last night, I'm on his, and many others' ignore lists. It's alright, I just love halo, I get a bit too passionate sometimes, and I take things a bit too personal.
I agree Duji is a great poster, and after his post where he won the Razer mouse for a tournament, I realized he goes to the same university I went to.
And that's what players have to assume, because we don't get much of a real dialogue with the Arbiter. I'm not arguing he doesn't have an arc, it's just not as good as it could have been. And definitely with you on Halo 3--gimping the Arbiter's story is I think the biggest failing of the campaign.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Something else I want to say because I feel like sharing.
I like Booties. I like Booties posts.
When I joined he never posted and then he called me out about me being a shitty member and i was all like. "Who the fuck are you dude?". But now Booties posts lots and I think he is good peoples.
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I like Booties. I like Booties posts.
When I joined he never posted and then he called me out about me being a shitty member and i was all like. "Who the fuck are you dude?". But now Booties posts lots and I think he is good peoples.
inb4changgaayyy.flv
And it is quoted. Do you remember why I said that?
A game not based on who sees who first is probably the one thing that makes people love Halo. Fast kill times, when introduced properly, won't affect this at all. That's what I want you to understand.
The prestigious Corbulo Academy of Military Science.
Halo 2: CE. Look it up.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Damn Stalker.. damn.
Halo 3 had the most unreliable and inconsistent sandbox of any Halo game. I don't even..
I love the style lol and yes we do. I'll be around if you want to get on, just appearing offline.
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bobs...onGaf
Member
Actually with the exception of the terrible playlist management neogaf didn't totally bitch about halo 1, 2 or 3 (except maybe strider) back then there were arguments about the sandbox an what people preferred (AR or BR) but I think everyone would say the game was fun when they had their weapon of choice.
Big difference when reach and halo 4 came out- for good reason
Poker Face
Member
ship it
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
^This is the path I dreamed for Halo.
Combat Evolved 2 can save us.
User 73706
Banned
I have to admit, weird design choices (like the Binary Rifle) aside, Halo 4 has one of my favorite sandboxes thanks to things like the Light Rifle, Railgun and Sticky Detonator.
I also just realized "Trust us." has shown up as early as Halo 3's description... for the Famine skull.
I also just realized "Trust us." has shown up as early as Halo 3's description... for the Famine skull.
So beautiful. I want it now.
Now that's advertising. 343, where's your notebook.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Look what CMT (the halo mod team) are working on.
Cool shit
Look what CMT (the halo mod team) are working on.
Cool shit
I would have preferred a VISR 2.0 to pro vision.
Frankie plz
Look what CMT (the halo mod team) are working on.
Cool shit
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