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[FyreWulff]

Thanks to rev3rb for letting me use his stream to test my TACTIVIEW(TM) setup (not like rev3rb had much choice anyway)

 

[Rev3rb]

Thanks to rev3rb for letting me use his stream to test my TACTIVIEW(TM) setup (not like rev3rb had much choice anyway)

I feel so violated.

 

[FyreWulff]

I feel so extracted.

fixed

 

[YourExWife]

Soooo... I had a thought while watching tactiview. Does HaloGAF have a team page on twitchTV? If not, does Duncan have to request it or set it up since he runs the halogaf site? For that matter, how do we go about setting one up anyway? This needs to happen.

 

[Der Flatulator]

What's news, HaloGAF?

 

[User 73706]

What program did you use to draw this?

Photoshop CS5 and a tablet.

 

[Fotos]

What's news, HaloGAF?

Someone needs to make a HaloGAF News show once a week every week. Keep us up with all of the cool posts, Halo news, and arguments that have gone on in the last week.

This week on HaloGAF, Junior starts arguments and gets shit on. Halo 4's population peaked this week at 40,000 BELI343. ExWife posts more .gifs of women and Wahrer continues to make sandbox posts and drawings. TU info was released in this weeks Halo Bulletin, looks like 343 dropped the ball again. RIP in Peace.

 

[heckfu]

via aPK on twitter, the next Halo 4 TU information will be revealed in next week's bulletin!

 

[YourExWife]

via aPK on twitter, the next Halo 4 TU information will be revealed in next week's bulletin!

 

[aPK]

via aPK on twitter, the next Halo 4 TU information will be revealed in next week's bulletin!

Yup.

 

[CyReN]

via aPK on twitter, the next Halo 4 TU information will be revealed in next week's bulletin!

Gears in like 1 hour?

 

[heckfu]

Gears in like 1 hour?

yezzzzzir. i'm actually about to go ahead and hop on with Biggy so I'll see you sign on.

 

[Duji]

RIP MLG Halo.

If you dont treat your game as an esport its not going to be played as an esport. Even for awhile CoD was more popular than Halo but when it came to MLG events Halo was still more popular, even when MLG tried CoD at first, it was ignored and cast in shadow by Halo.

Remove ranks, so people have no idea where they stand as a player, no motivation to actually win, ignore the demand for spectator modes, competitive playlists, skill gaps, weapon control, add randomness in and you have all the wrong moves to make your game sink in the competitive players eyes.

You now have 50,000 people on average playing Halo 4. Most of which are in traditionally non-competitive playlists. BTB, Infinity Randy Slayer, Action Sack are top 3 right now accounting for more than half of those players. What do you expect though when most of the maps large, your underlying additional systems from this iteration all add more and more randomness, and your playlist management is a complete punch to the dick to competitive players. Of course Throwdown will instantly sink down to the bottom of the playlists.

You have not captured the CoD players. You have done nothing progressive, you've ruined Halo, you've got the barebones players that would just always be playing Halo no matter what game was given to them. You have ignored communities like HSH, MLG, and this shows, people have left the game. They aren't playing it.

And the user experience...don't even get me started, its awful.

Msg me when you're ready.

Welcome back.

And trust us Overdoziz, get an SSD.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

RIP MLG Halo.

If you dont treat your game as an esport its not going to be played as an esport. Even for awhile CoD was more popular than Halo but when it came to MLG events Halo was still more popular, even when MLG tried CoD at first, it was ignored and cast in shadow by Halo.

Remove ranks, so people have no idea where they stand as a player, no motivation to actually win, ignore the demand for spectator modes, competitive playlists, skill gaps, weapon control, add randomness in and you have all the wrong moves to make your game sink in the competitive players eyes.

You now have 50,000 people on average playing Halo 4. Most of which are in traditionally non-competitive playlists. BTB, Infinity Randy Slayer, Action Sack are top 3 right now accounting for more than half of those players. What do you expect though when most of the maps large, your underlying additional systems from this iteration all add more and more randomness, and your playlist management is a complete punch to the dick to competitive players. Of course Throwdown will instantly sink down to the bottom of the playlists.

You have not captured the CoD players. You have done nothing progressive, you've ruined Halo, you've got the barebones players that would just always be playing Halo no matter what game was given to them. You have ignored communities like HSH, MLG, and this shows, people have left the game. They aren't playing it.

And the user experience...don't even get me started, its awful.

Msg me when you're ready.

Twitch.tv numbers:

CoD Blops II: 25,000
Halo 4: 500

Says it all really.

 

[Der Flatulator]

Welcome back.

And trust us Overdoziz, get an SSD.

What's the talk about SSDs?

For the next few (maybe 5) years, SSDs will be the only way to reduce IO delay between processor and system files on HDDs. I'd recommend using them only for system resources, as well as computationally expensive software, including rendering software, Photoshop, etc. They're overpriced due to slow adoption, lack of demand and expensive parts, but they can be worth it.

 

[Fotos]

Twitch.tv numbers:

CoD Blops II: 25,000
Halo 4: 500

Says it all really.

Makes me really sad to see Halo be this unpopular.


Reposting because it's a good idea:

Someone needs to make a HaloGAF News show once a week every week. Keep us up with all of the cool posts, Halo news, and arguments that have gone on in the last week.

This week on HaloGAF, Junior starts arguments and gets shit on. Halo 4's population peaked this week at 40,000 BELI343. ExWife posts more .gifs of women and Wahrer continues to make sandbox posts and drawings. TU info was released in this weeks Halo Bulletin, looks like 343 dropped the ball again. RIP in Peace.

 

[YourExWife]

What's the talk about SSDs?

For the next few (maybe 5) years, SSDs will be the only way to reduce IO delay between processor and system files on HDDs. I'd recommend using them only for system resources, as well as computationally expensive software, including rendering software, Photoshop, etc. They're overpriced due to slow adoption, lack of demand and expensive parts, but they can be worth it.

And he's on a budget, so a decent HDD will suffice, like a few people here have mentioned.
When everything else in his rig will be nowhere near top-of-the-line, it's not really justified.

On another note, just uploaded a Skyline Perfection

Makes me really sad to see Halo be this unpopular.

To be fair, MLG tournament is a vast amount of those numbers without a doubt. And no H4 tourney this weekend.
EDIT: Hey! I just posted a .gif of a guy, ok!

 

[MrGreencastle]

What's the talk about SSDs?

For the next few (maybe 5) years, SSDs will be the only way to reduce IO delay between processor and system files on HDDs. I'd recommend using them only for system resources, as well as computationally expensive software, including rendering software, Photoshop, etc. They're overpriced due to slow adoption, lack of demand and expensive parts, but they can be worth it.

Yep. Most people would be fine with a setup like mine, with the OS installed on an SSD, in my case 64GB, and most games, media, porn collection, etc on external TB+ HDDs. Works fine, and you get the OS performance benefit of the SSD, without the cost of high storage.

 

[Der Flatulator]

And he's on a budget, so a decent HDD will suffice, like a few people here have mentioned.
When everything else in his rig will be nowhere near top-of-the-line, it's not really justified.

TBH I'd recommend more/faster RAM than an SSD on a budgget. SSDs are compromises for reading files when you can't have that data in memory. At least until prices drop.

Yep. Most people would be fine with a setup like mine, with the OS installed on an SSD, in my case 64GB, and most games, media, porn collection, etc on external TB+ HDDs. Works fine, and you get the OS performance benefit of the SSD, without the cost of high storage.

I still haven't got myself an SSD, but when I do I'll do the same. Network drives for videos and music, documents, downloads and working directories on a separate, internal HDD.

 

[Duji]

TBH I'd recommend spending the money on more/faster RAM than an SSD. SSDs are compromises for reading files when you can't have that data in memory. At least until prices drop.

Isn't 4GB of RAM usually more than enough?

 

[YourExWife]

TBH I'd recommend spending the money on more/faster RAM than an SSD. SSDs are compromises for reading files when you can't have that data in memory. At least until prices drop.

RAM, CPU, GPU, MOBO are most definitely the biggest concerns. Would even put power supply on that list depending on GPU/CPU.

Isn't 4GB of RAM usually more than enough?

For a barebones usage PC, yes. For one that wants to do a sort of decent job at gaming, capture/rendering, etc, no. More RAM, and just as importantly, faster RAM is a big concern. Your good CPU/mobo/etc won't mean much if you can't store/transfer stuff between them. Also, RAM is one of the cheapest upgrades you can implement.

 

[Dongs Macabre]

I just realised how useful the centre lift on Solace is in SWAT for picking off players inside the bases.

 

[Poker Face]

via aPK on twitter, the next Halo 4 TU information will be revealed in next week's bulletin!

hopefully its good! (and playable at pax)

Reposting because it's a good idea:

We already have HaloGAF radio. I don't think enough goes on to here to make this possible.

 

[Der Flatulator]

Isn't 4GB of RAM usually more than enough?

It's not all about size, but nowadays I would recommend to most people to go for 8GiB. Kingston HyperX if you can afford it. Speed and cooling is almost as important as physical memory.

 

[YourExWife]

It's not all about size, but nowadays I would recommend to most people to go for 8GiB. Kingston HyperX if you can afford it. Speed and cooling is almost as important as physical memory.

I think Over said he was looking at 8GB but I don't remember the details.

 

[DeadNames]

This new TU could be the deciding factor for Halo 4.

I WANT TO BELI343.

 

[Der Flatulator]

I think Over said he was looking at 8GB but I don't remember the details.

Found it.

ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M - Moederbord - micro ATX - Socket FM2 - AMD A75 - USB 3.0 - Gigabit LAN

AMD Athlon II X4 740 - 3.2 GHz - 4 cores - 4 MB cache - Socket FM2 - Box

Sapphire RADEON HD7850 - Grafische adapter - Radeon HD 7850 - PCI Express 3.0 x16 - 1 GB GDDR5 - 2 x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort

Corsair Builder Series CX430 - Voeding ( intern ) - ATX12V 2.3/ EPS12V - 80 PLUS Bronze - 100-240 Volt wisselstroom V - 430 Watt

Cooler Master K280 - Midtowermodel - ATX - geen voeding ( ATX / PS/2 ) - zwart

WD Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX - Vaste schijf - 500 GB - intern - 3.5" - SATA-600 - 7200 tpm -buffer: 16 MB

Corsair Value Select - Geheugen - 8 GB : 2 x 4 GB - DIMM 240-pins - DDR3 - 1333 MHz / PC3-10600 - CL9 - niet-gebufferd - niet-EC

€483

Didn't know Corsair made 1333MHz DIMMs. I'd tend to recommend spending the extra few $ for faster RAM though.

As for CPU - I'm an Intel man, but I have nothing against modern AMD.
The Core i5-3330 is a pretty decent quad-core chip for the price. It's got a 6MiB Level 3 Cache (1MiB L2), runs at 3.0GHz.

 

[Fotos]

We already have HaloGAF radio. I don't think enough goes on to here to make this possible.

Honestly I think you could make a 30 minute HaloGAF show every week. Just talk about the info on the Bulletin and have guests on every week to discuss all the Halo and GAF news. You could also throw in a HaloGAF top 10 plays once in a while.

 

[kittens]

Twitch.tv numbers:

CoD Blops II: 25,000
Halo 4: 500

Says it all really.

That's depressing as fuck.

 

[PNut]

RIP MLG Halo.

If you dont treat your game as an esport its not going to be played as an esport. Even for awhile CoD was more popular than Halo but when it came to MLG events Halo was still more popular, even when MLG tried CoD at first, it was ignored and cast in shadow by Halo.

Remove ranks, so people have no idea where they stand as a player, no motivation to actually win, ignore the demand for spectator modes, competitive playlists, skill gaps, weapon control, add randomness in and you have all the wrong moves to make your game sink in the competitive players eyes.

You now have 50,000 people on average playing Halo 4. Most of which are in traditionally non-competitive playlists. BTB, Infinity Randy Slayer, Action Sack are top 3 right now accounting for more than half of those players. What do you expect though when most of the maps large, your underlying additional systems from this iteration all add more and more randomness, and your playlist management is a complete punch to the dick to competitive players. Of course Throwdown will instantly sink down to the bottom of the playlists.

You have not captured the CoD players. You have done nothing progressive, you've ruined Halo, you've got the barebones players that would just always be playing Halo no matter what game was given to them. You have ignored communities like HSH, MLG, and this shows, people have left the game. They aren't playing it.

And the user experience...don't even get me started, its awful.

Msg me when you're ready.

Twitch.tv numbers:

CoD Blops II: 25,000
Halo 4: 500

Says it all really.

When ninja's not streaming it's mostly Halo 3 streamers to be honest.

 

[YourExWife]

That's depressing as fuck.

I'll say it again, this is almost all from the tournament. From twitchtv's stats:

25,330 viewers on mlgcod

And they were on twitchtv front page for a while.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Well right now its not exactly fair since there is a championship going on, but yea CoD is almost always ahead on Twitch. BTW Twitch says theres something like 6 million unique users from the US watching daily. Think of the numbers...even if a game was to capture a small percent of people to go play that game...that can help.

Also...watching Unite beating Optic...pretty crazy. Said a few weeks ago on facebook something like "watch this clayster guy hes going to win something soon"

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Reposting because it's a good idea:

Nah seems like it would be pointless people don't really care about the day to day banter of HaloGAF much outside of the actual banter itself and countless other sites post Halo content rapidly.

I kind of think HaloGAF is a bit too big for NeoGAF and could use its own forum but when i weigh that against the negatives things get complicated.

+ Topics would get deeper discussion because they could have their own threads
+ We would rarely lose a good member due to banning
+ We would have better control over less desirable members posting
+ It could grow into something special

- We would likely still all use HaloGAF
- Hosting costs and dedicated time towards running the site are problematic
- How do we appoint leaders, Should members like Kyle be held above people like wareh ect
- The threat of banning on by the bish and others deters the more mean comments

Its one of those double edge sword scenarios.

As for PC building I typically follow a few rules

• Intel CPU
• Nvidia GPU
• Don't skimp on the RAM
• Remember everything your going to buy is going to obsolete relativly soon, Don't spend £500+ on a GPU expecting it to be future proof for years your better buying a mid-high GPU at a cheaper price and upgrading it semi regular
  

 

[LAUGHTREY]

To be fair, MLG tournament is a vast amount of those numbers without a doubt. And no H4 tourney this weekend.
EDIT: Hey! I just posted a .gif of a guy, ok!

Duh, that's the point. There won't ever be a MLG H4 tournament. Tables could've easily been turned here.

I just don't get the defense logic.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

No defense, you cater to the competitive community you get online on MLG. You make legal red tape and outsource player retention to Virgin Gaming, you get an unhealthy contest that is honestly sickening and almost no player retention to show. Most definitely the players retained wasnt because of anything Virgin Gaming did...and where are these future tournaments by the way?

343's post support is a fallacy, they switch around settings, not even the right settings. Release some maps not even made by them, which were probably mostly finished before the game even released and release a super weak patch.

It sucks.

We deserve better.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

As for PC building I typically follow a few rules

• Intel CPU
• Nvidia GPU
• Don't skimp on the RAM
• Remember everything your going to buy is going to obsolete relativly soon, Don't spend £500+ on a GPU expecting it to be future proof for years your better buying a mid-high GPU at a cheaper price and upgrading it semi regular
  

This is what I did. Bought an 8600GTS in 2008 and got a 550ti in 2011, didn't miss a beat.

No defense, you cater to the competitive community you get online on MLG. You make legal red tape and outsource player retention to Virgin Gaming, you get an unhealthy contest that is honestly sickening and almost no player retention to show. Most definitely the players retained wasnt because of anything Virgin Gaming did...and where are these future tournaments by the way?

343's post support is a fallacy, they switch around settings, not even the right settings. Release some maps not even made by them, which were probably mostly finished before the game even released and release a super weak patch.

It sucks.

We deserve better.

It's just weird to see someone say "Well there's a tournament goin on for CoD right now".

It's like half a sentence, is he implying that there will be a Halo 4 one that comes close to that?

I visit twitch almost every day, I didn't even know they had a Halo 4 channel until a few hours ago, it never shows up on the front page.

 

[CyReN]

Optic goes down

 

[Fotos]

Nah seems like it would be pointless people don't really care about the day to day banter of HaloGAF much outside of the actual banter itself and countless other sites post Halo content rapidly.

If it was done right I think it could be pretty entertaining for the rest of HaloGAF. It would seem like a show filled with inside jokes and actual news.

 

[User 73706]

I'd be willing to co-star on HaloGAF News.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

I'd be willing to co-star on HaloGAF News.

30 mins of wahrers drawings in a slide show with voice over explaining why gravity gauntlets are cool confirmed for episode 1,2,3,4,5.......65,66

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

This is the PC I just got:

OS:Windows 7 Home Premium
CPU:Intel i7 3770
GPU:AMD Radeon 7570
RAM:8GBs
Storage: 1TB Hard-Drive

Does everything seem fine to you guys?

I plan to upgrade the GPU to an AMD 7950 or a Nvidia 670, and maybe buy an SSD. Not sure yet.

Oh and I plan to upgrade to Windows 8.

EDIT: This was all for Halo 3 Steam by the way, my biggest motivation for even getting a Desktop.

 

[Redford]

This is the PC I just got:



Does everything seem fine to you guys?

I plan to upgrade the GPU to an AMD 7950 or a Nvidia 670, and maybe buy an SSD. Not sure yet.

Oh and I plan to upgrade to Windows 8.

What does this have to do with Halo?

 

[StalkerUKCG]

What does this have to do with Halo?

Why does it have to have anything to do with Halo?

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

What does this have to do with Halo?

I guess that edit I made sort of makes it Halo related

Wasn't even intentional either.

 

[Booshka]

I don't know how you guys are watching CoD, SC2 and even LoL are much more entertaining. I guess it is cool to see some of the old Halo pros and personalities compete at MLG for nostalgia's sake. SC2 and LoL are much more entertaining as eSports games than CoD, and I don't even really understand either of them that well.

 

[MrGreencastle]

What does this have to do with Halo?

HaloGAF doesn't tolerate that question!

 

[YourExWife]

EDIT: That may not be appropriate, sorry.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Gears Judgment is pretty fun.

Yeah man you're right, especially when you get a team together coordinating attacks.

Kantus + Mauler + Screaming Wretch = YISS

 

[Tashi]

I don't know how you guys are watching CoD, SC2 and even LoL are much more entertaining. I guess it is cool to see some of the old Halo pros and personalities compete at MLG for nostalgia's sake. SC2 and LoL are much more entertaining as eSports games than CoD, and I don't even really understand either of them that well.

I've been watching a ton of StarCraft 2 today. It's been great. I do play and understand the game though.

 

[YourExWife]

I've been watching a ton of StarCraft 2 today. It's been great. I do play and understand the game though.

Did you watch the 1:20 long game where everything got mined out? Was soooo epic.