Silly.Mikey
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No idea, i just found it now. 60 minutes long
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No idea, i just found it now. 60 minutes long
josh just seems to drone on and on (no offense). having a hard time trying to listen to this.
Here's the MP section is a nutshell:
"Halo was hard so we made it babby mode".
The rest has to do with narrative, making promethean weapons, etc.
Shame that 343 went with counterparts to existing weapons when it comes to Prom guns. A grapple gun would be so much fun.
User 73706
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how is babby formed
how is babby formed
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how is babby formed
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i would like to hear the mp stuff - but the narrative and other design stuff is Zzzzz. will jump around on the stream.
It starts at around a half an hour in IIRC
Apart from the few slides that people freaked out over, there wasn't a whole lot of takeaway from the thing, which was surprising from a postmortem. It was more about 343's philosophies and things they wanted to hit going into the game. It was kind of buzzword-y in the same way the vidocs are. Nothing against Josh as a speaker or presenter, but the talk didn't tell me a whole lot that prerelease material and the rhetoric in the bulletins hadn't already.
People here were ragging on the presentation because they used a handicapped chief symbol as a representation of makin the game more accessible and making it easier for new players.
They also said fans thought armor unlocks were boring and wanted gameplay changing progression system to which everyone is confused as to where they got this fan feedback from.
I have yet to watch the entire talk.
thats the gist i got after listening to the first 5 min or so. seemed very predictable and things we've heard a million times before. very safe and by the books talk, not much postmortem. "heres how we built the team. these were our challenges. halo has lots of supplemental story we wanted to include in the game."
Silly.Mikey
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It wasnt hard to figure out. It was boring and uninteresting as hell. You kidding me or what.
pretty sure he is talking specifically about the gameplay progression unlocks...
The confusing thing was the gameplay changing unlock system
Why lol?
EagleBurnn
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If someone read that to me, I would have guessed it was from GAF.
Hyperboles everywhere. I love reading them.
Seems like a normal GAF post to me.
Repeat complaints and popshots for 6 pages.
The OP is quite right
Also didn't know Josh Holmes has a GAF account, I wonder why he doesn't post in here hmmmm
Of course. We have our moments too.
Generally comments made on Waypoint are a lot more extreme, however. I just love reading through them. People have valid concerns, but the way they express themselves is hilarious
What a complete mess though. I can see how disheartening it would be to read those kinds of remarks from your 'fans'
EagleBurnn
Banned
If he's smart, he won't come here.
Poker Face
Member
i think you know the answer to that.
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
GAF is no place for him. Kiki is more than welcomed to post. Bonnie too.
Well after the panel yesterday I was questioning the former lol.
Of course I do. Though Kevin Franklin would get more fire.
Edit: ^^^ lol slt, yes they are.
Silly.Mikey
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Honestly, i think they do have a point in the armor unlocks not being very interesting. Personally, Ive always thought it was completely pointless. In Reach i could not care less about ranking up cause at one point, you just like how your character looks and it doesn't really matter anymore. Plus, it takes an eternity to rank up at one point.
They have to find a way to make ranking up interesting. Make me wanna hit that max level and possibly even start over. Right now, i don't really care if i hit that max level once, let alone start it over.
They have to find a way to make ranking up interesting. Make me wanna hit that max level and possibly even start over. Right now, i don't really care if i hit that max level once, let alone start it over.
What if the level didn't affect gameplay or appearance, and rather, was some kind of visual indication of your skill level as a player? It could motivate you to improve, and keep you coming back to the game to increase that level.
I wonder what that would have been like.
Hydranockz
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Yeah. Gosh. Why doesn't anyone from 343 post here anymore? We are like, so far above all that Waypoint level of nonsensical posting. Why don't they use GAF? Why why why?
Dude that would suck. People would cheat.
WAIT
Let's put in an unlock system that relies on playing time and number of/certain kinds of kills! People certainly won't boost for that! That won't happen. They sure won't go into Regicide with a party and farm kills!
Who would do that?
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Thats different. Not everyone can hit the max skill level where as a rank based on unlockables, everyone will get there eventually, its only a matter of time.
If you want casuals to stay interested, you have to give them something reachable. Skill levels arent.
This place is more negative than it used to be but the negativity isn't unfounded. Long time hardcore halo fans didn't abandon halo 4 for no reason.
Hydranockz
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I never implied the negativity was founded, unfounded or derefounded bro.
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
I'm dumbfounded.
I just hope Halo 5 goes back to what made Halo, Halo.
They can keep loadouts as long as it's just a primary.
Have ordnance be AAs, plasmas, or a DMR/PP. Keep ordnance static. Display where the weapons are on the HUD so new players know where to go. Keep Halo 4's movement/jump height/melee.
Sprint can stay, whatever. No flinch or perks. Skill ranks in conjunction with a progression rank. Progression rank would be armor, emblems, and weapon skins.
They can keep loadouts as long as it's just a primary.
Have ordnance be AAs, plasmas, or a DMR/PP. Keep ordnance static. Display where the weapons are on the HUD so new players know where to go. Keep Halo 4's movement/jump height/melee.
Sprint can stay, whatever. No flinch or perks. Skill ranks in conjunction with a progression rank. Progression rank would be armor, emblems, and weapon skins.
I hope this isn't based on my Josh question, it wasn't serious.
Of course everybody knows why they are not here, I also wouldn't want to go to a place where my product gets so much shit, deserved or not
I honestly can't wait until Halo 5, if only because of the reactions people are gonna give. Didn't 343i say that they felt 'restricted' by the fact that they had to make a Halo game? I expect Halo 5 to be much more [different?] than Halo 4 is.
well, and I'm a tad excited to see if they can salvage anything from the story
Poker Face
Member
I really do miss the days where people could have fun without unlocking guns, perks, and other miscellaneous bullshit.
Is there really a positive community out there in Halo though? (post h4)
Hydranockz
Member
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
MarauderShields
Member
Spire remake soon?
Free avatar. Missed my dodger head to much.
I want this. I am so sorry I spent years hating on Reach. So much better then 4.
EagleBurnn
Banned
Reach to Halo 4 is the lesser of two evils.
Reach is like a gold plated piece of poop.
Halo 4 is a bar of gold coated in poop.
Someone pointed this out on Waypoint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKp2o6UXDiE&t=62m15s
Never heard feedback? You don't have to look very far to see all the hate it gets.
Never heard feedback? You don't have to look very far to see all the hate it gets.
Except that THC loves it
Hey, doesn't the ability to redeem DewXP codes end in a day or two? Wonder if we'll hear about any non-Dew DEXP stuff soon.
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