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Halo |OT16| Oh Bungie, Where Art Thou?

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kylej

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A Balance of Work in Halo.

Competitive – Find a “flow” of constant engagement. “30 seconds of fun” was a common saying back during the earlier Halo’s, no more…now its 15 seconds of fun. The best most competitive games I’ve seen have had Avg Lives of 15 seconds or less. Allowing a team time to really get a hold of large maps grab all power weapons and survive for long periods of time too often isn’t pushing their threshold they aren’t hitting the edge of their ability. They are bullying at that point, not challenging themselves, not overcoming obstacles. Not being challenged = Boring, it’s scientifically proven!

Creative – Allow players to form their Spartan to be used interchangeably in both MP and SP and (Third gametype) giving an increased sense of development and meaning. This means allow them to build their “card”. Whatever’s the current thing? Call symbol/Clan Tag etc. Allow them to purchase pieces allow them to choose the colors of the pieces. Allow them to earn special pieces through campaign and spec ops feats of strength. Ex: Halo 3’s Katana was actually earned by earning every achievement this took time and perseverance; it was not giving to them by a grind of points. DO NOT CREATE A GRIND. Create a progression.

Explorative – Have a searching field for items, books, logs, terminals. Collect all to learn the story. Have an easter egg undiscovered and untold, something players might find by accident after a long time or search for forever and still be undiscovered.

Busywork – Allow an achievement for X amount of kills.

Now when I type work I don’t mean traditional work I mean the act of action causing excitement. People sitting around are saying “I’m bored” because non-action leads to boredom, we want to keep the player busy but never at our choosing. They will choose. Also players can get burnt out on gaming, after five or six games of Midship FFA you might be fried from all the decision making and hand action. So the player will voluntarily stop. This doesn’t have to mean the end of Halo, there is more work to be done.
Halo isn’t just a game, its an art. You hone your skills, you watch videos to learn the ins and outs of the game. You learn how to best your opponents, worse players have beat better players by sheer determination. Practice makes perfect, and the hardwork will pay off.

So we need some downtime activities.

Theater suggestions:
1. Copy CoD’s auto-montage reel. We need the ability for theater to go in analyze the film real fast pick out your best plays of the game and create a film of it all very quick. Players can save.upload it to their fileshare, suggest the download to friends, and link it online. Three necessary features. Fourth would be upload to Youtube/Waypoint.
2. We need an option to save the file to the drive after a game in the UI. Not two layers in like Reach and H4.
3. We need group viewing back, no one wants to leave a party to view a clip/film. Halo is about socialism. Real world cannot compete with the fact you can instantly be connected to thousands of players through MM. It needs to take advantage of this.
4. We need campaign viewing back. So much greatness happens in campaign, so much art needs to be shown off everywhere.
5. An option to save, and also have your highlight reel or clip viewable on HaloTV.
6. Everyones PoV.

HaloTV needs to be implemented. You need to pick it off the main menu. It will load a screen where you will be taken to viewing options Random, Snipes, Doubles, BTB, Competitive, Featured, So on and so forth, whatever is fitting for the next Halo. From there have it watch a clip, Have a rating system while watching 1-5 Stars to filter out junk and figure out what should be seen more, weight the chance of better files but still have non rated low rated files show up for people so it has a chance to improve score if its actually a decent clip. Have a report button. After some # of reports it will be removed. Files will rotate and never be static anyways. Hopefully make some way to have certain newly finished CLOSE games become part of the pool of files. Allow the option to save the film you are watching. Bonus points if you can randomly throw people into a MM team to communicate while watching Halo TV if they wish to put on their mics.

What the main purpose of this is to allow players to continue playing Halo after they have been fried from active Halo playing. If they don’t have time to or are not in the mood to play a game they can continue their Halo experience.

Regarding the User Interface

Get to a clean H3 presentation with Reach’s UI. Active Roster needs to be back, and not hidden roster. That’s all there’s no debating this. There’s no advantage to the baseball card Microsoft Smart glass touchscreen Windows 8 theme crap that has been created for Halo 4. Nothing is intuitive about it, it takes way too long to figure out and even when you do not much of it makes sense or is quicker. There’s just simply no point to fixing something that wasn’t broken. In fact you took something that was working and broke it. After all this game is about accessibility. Lets make it easy to get where you need to be.

Fresh Content
Now with all this fleshed out we have a game people don’t need to leave, can leave on, and can go from active to low activity moments. Possibly staying on between these swings. Complete this all with a proper working fileshare and Developers Favorites page (Bring back the Bungie Favorites)
You have to keep fresh playlists revolving. Halo 4 put everything it had out from day 1. Grifball was robbed, Flood was put out. Snipers was still snubbed like every release. SWAT was MIA. Then judging by population you took some away and added stuff. When you could have just put all of those as 1 revolving playlist with double credits. People would have came back weekly for the new playlist and it would allow you a testing bed for new playlists. Why you still haven’t added an Instagib is beyond me.
DLC. Halo 4’s DLC has been great the only problem is the map packs seem to be bunched. Crimson was nearly all BTB DLC. When Halo 4 already has an abundance of BTB maps. Spread that out. One BTB One Medium One Small per pack. Each a month or two apart.

Keep People on Their “Edge”

People find themselves having the most fun when they are at the edge of their ability. Think of Tetris a game you literally cannot beat, but people still play. Why? Because the game challenges you, it has a clearly identified scoring system and the AI eventually drops the pieces quicker and quicker until you lose. People don’t care about grinding to the highest Spartan Rank by getting XP whether they win or lose. People want to grind to 50 where they were pushed to their limit and overcame a challenge. This means you’re going to need to bring back a ranking system with instant feedback. You’ll have to figure a way to remove cheating to halt boosting, modding, deranking, and other forms of griefing.
My suggestion would be every other month drop players 5 ranks in every playlist. This doesn’t reset the ranks but allows nobody to sell an account as they won’t be able to get back up to “The Highest Rank” also do not allow a highest rank skill in the gamers “baseball stats”. Reach reset too hard, often by the time you were ranked the season was ending and you’d have to start all over just as you were getting decent Trueskill matches. This allows Trueskill to continue working through “seasons”
I still stick to my guns a system where no one is trying to cheat, is a system that no one cares about. Let them try and game the system; at least they’ll be gaming!

Build a Halo game, not the game that gets a 9.8 on IGN

People played games like Pong, Pac-Man, Breakout, Donkey Kong for hours and hours. These games weren’t graphically rich, the patterns were sometimes very simple to understand and master, yet they continued for hours. They tried to see how long they could keep their game perfect. Halo doesn’t need to be so graphically rich. It can still look good but we need to get the frame rate up. Trying to play a competitive game of Halo while having a framerate that varies is the worse detraction you can have in a game. People need to be able to depend upon the game to let them actually play it. The game should not be playing them. Netcode should be improved upon but Halo should be looking at dedicated servers to remove host advantage and let the players good connections take advantage. Lag compensation should be diminished because of this. Less trading and less bullet eating. This not only increases peoples experience, but motivates players to get better connections, fix their settings, to allow them a better experience, and overall increase the connections for everyone.

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hi juices
 
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TheOddOne

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u4iX said:
Do you not like her?
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It's all love, babe.
 
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Fuchsdh

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Deadly Cyclone said:
So is the HGS inside joke ever going to be revealed? Or will it continue to be a joke that everyone "in" it posts as a "clever" nod to the other members? Has anyone guessed the name right so far?
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Don't encourage them.

Will IGN or whoever be allowed to live stream the 720 announcement or is that limited to MS channels?
 
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FUNKNOWN iXi

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So with the BR becoming a 4sk, where does that leave the LR unscoped? No one's gonna use that non-hitscan nerd..

Unscoped it's the worst rifle and if you ever want to use it scoped you're better off using the 4sk hitscan BR or the 3x scope hitscan DMR. Shit, maybe even the Carbine if the decreased spread makes a big difference in its consistency..

Deadly Cyclone said:
So is the HGS inside joke ever going to be revealed? Or will it continue to be a joke that everyone "in" it posts as a "clever" nod to the other members? Has anyone guessed the name right so far?
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It's HaloGAF Scrub/s whether they admit to it right now or not. Don't bother giving it attention since it's no different than the myriad of other inside posts.
 
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xxjuicesxx

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All right, if the applicant is young, tell him he's too young. Old, too old. Fat, too fat. If the applicant then waits for three days without food, shelter, or encouragement he may then enter and begin his training.
 
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StalkerUKCG

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I got my new kitten today, 6 weeks old. Calling him Max, Problem is my current cat about a year old called Milo is scared shitless of him and just swiped at his face out of fear when the kitten was playing. The Kitten is playful and used to having a big pet family the home he came from had his litter plus an older cat and a chihuahua.

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Hopefully they will bond soon, I'm scared they won't
 
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Speedy Blue Dude

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xxjuicesxx said:
All right, if the applicant is young, tell him he's too young. Old, too old. Fat, too fat. If the applicant then waits for three days without food, shelter, or encouragement he may then enter and begin his training.
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I'd like to apply for HGS. :D

We get paid for it, right?


StalkerUKCG said:
I got my new kitten today, 6 weeks old. Calling him Max, Problem is my current cat about a year old called Milo is scared shitless of him and just swiped at his face out of fear when the kitten was playing. The Kitten is playful and used to having a big pet family the home he came from had his litter plus an older cat and a chihuahua.



Hopefully they will bond soon, I'm scared they won't
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D'awww. He's adorable :) Enjoy your new kitty Stalker.
 
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Thermite

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Deadly Cyclone said:
So is the HGS inside joke ever going to be revealed? Or will it continue to be a joke that everyone "in" it posts as a "clever" nod to the other members? Has anyone guessed the name right so far?
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FUNKNOWN iXi said:
It's HaloGAF Scrub/s whether they admit to it right now or not. Don't bother giving it attention since it's no different than the myriad of other inside posts.
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Look at all this mad #HGS #ShitlordsNeedNotApply

HGS fo lyfe
 
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Ramirez

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Deadly Cyclone said:
So is the HGS inside joke ever going to be revealed? Or will it continue to be a joke that everyone "in" it posts as a "clever" nod to the other members? Has anyone guessed the name right so far?
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I bet it doesn't even exist.

kylej said:
halo |ot17| almost as low down as your hairline on the back of that ratchet-ass head
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I was literally in tears...GOAT.

Remember when Unknown first came here and had that weird forum persona? Yea.
 
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Orochinagis

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StalkerUKCG said:
I got my new kitten today, 6 weeks old. Calling him Max, Problem is my current cat about a year old called Milo is scared shitless of him and just swiped at his face out of fear when the kitten was playing. The Kitten is playful and used to having a big pet family the home he came from had his litter plus an older cat and a chihuahua.

Hopefully they will bond soon, I'm scared they won't
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Did you sterilyze your old cat? maybe he is worried about being replaced because you bring a young cat to his territory
Put the kitten on a pet transport box near of your old cat in the same room, just to know each other, day by day do the same until you old cat gets familiarized with him, then try it without the box.
 
FUNKNOWN iXi

FUNKNOWN iXi

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Just watched that Adam Sessler interview and was pretty satisfied. Some problems were mentioned and so were some strengths.. Hopefully 343 can capitalize on next gen tech and provide us with a phenomenal Halo experience.

Ramirez said:
Remember when Unknown first came here and had that weird forum persona? Yea.
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Actually that's how I really am and have tons of friends and my mom loves me.

Should this message ever reach you just know that I'd still give you a chance at friendship/happiness, ya grumpy fuck. But until then..

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DeadNames said:
off topic, but there's very few things worse than seeing your pet in pain.
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Yeah man, it's rough.. Sorry to hear that :\
 
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