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Halo |OT16| Oh Bungie, Where Art Thou?

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789shadow

Banned
New Halo related shirt up on https://www.shirtpunch.com/, $10 (+shipping), 24 hours. Not really feelin it myself, but someone might like it.

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Can't unsee face on visor.
 

FyreWulff

Member
See, that's where the weapon spawn thing would have made sense. If there was a problem on when weapons spawning not being known, having the weapons drop in and get a waypoint would have made sense. Then teams would have had access to equal information.

Requesting personal ordnance would have been more unique and fun if it was only in Dominion. It's fun to be able to order vehicles, turrets, jammers and stuff in Section 8 Prejudice, but Section 8 also has it make sense by controlling the ordering with a currency system, and you can't successfully order something if you're under the area an enemy anti-air gun controls (it'll shoot down what you requested)
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
It was a solace variant. Stick detonator spawns wall side perch and rail gun sun side perch. Bottom is completely blocked off. There was a nice jump made to the rail gun spawn and there was also a speed boost there. Really flowed well.

Cool. You can thank Nokyard for that one.
 

Ramirez

Member
That Solace variant made me realize nothing could make that map good. So much garbage cover and shit to get stuck on, belongs in Gears.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
That Solace variant made me realize nothing could make that map good. So much garbage cover and shit to get stuck on, belongs in Gears.

Yea I wish you could remove all of those boxes and crates. I also wish the bases were symmetrical. Map had huge potential.
 
Yea I wish you could remove all of those boxes and crates. I also wish the bases were symmetrical. Map had huge potential.

Both bases should have been like the waterfall base. Then it'd just need most of the stuff in the middle removed and some high ground on the sides. Dunno why it had to be asymmetrical.
 
Bugs everywhere

Does anyone here actually care about CSR? Does anyone anywhere actually care about CSR.

Its not at all what the community wanted. Sure its ranks but external ranks are about as useful as writing what i think my ranks should be down on a notepad.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Bugs everywhere

Does anyone here actually care about CSR? Does anyone anywhere actually care about CSR.

Its not at all what the community wanted. Sure its ranks but external ranks are about as useful as writing what i think my ranks should be down on a notepad.

Yea I care.
 

Tawpgun

Member
Bugs everywhere

Does anyone here actually care about CSR? Does anyone anywhere actually care about CSR.

Its not at all what the community wanted. Sure its ranks but external ranks are about as useful as writing what i think my ranks should be down on a notepad.
It's not ideal by any means, it kinda sucks actually. But I'm gonna try and see how it goes, see if I play more seriously because of it.
 

heckfu

Banned
Bugs everywhere

Does anyone here actually care about CSR? Does anyone anywhere actually care about CSR.

Its not at all what the community wanted. Sure its ranks but external ranks are about as useful as writing what i think my ranks should be down on a notepad.

Just curious, what do you think your rank should be?
 

Omni

Member
Bugs everywhere

Does anyone here actually care about CSR? Does anyone anywhere actually care about CSR.

Its not at all what the community wanted. Sure its ranks but external ranks are about as useful as writing what i think my ranks should be down on a notepad.

I can see why many want such a thing, but I never really cared one way or another about ranks.
 
I can see why many want such a thing, but I never really cared one way or another about ranks.

Yup but the best part is you benefit from ranks even when you don't care! Cause you get matched with people your skill and not level 50's in groups trolling against kids in social. Plus it encourages proper play.
 
Yup but the best part is you benefit from ranks even when you don't care! Cause you get matched with people your skill and not level 50's in groups trolling against kids in social. Plus it encourages proper play.

But if the matching was based on trueskill and the ranking system is based on trueskill whats the difference? Actual question
 
Bugs everywhere

Does anyone here actually care about CSR? Does anyone anywhere actually care about CSR.

Its not at all what the community wanted. Sure its ranks but external ranks are about as useful as writing what i think my ranks should be down on a notepad.

Personally, no. As long as I have proper trueskill matchmaking, I'll be fine.

With that said, I did enjoy ranking up in Halo 3 and I would have no problem doing it again. But if it's not in game, I don't see the point since it isn't much different from Halo Charts, Halo Tracker, or Meta Halo. I didn't use those, so I'm unlikely to bother with this one.
 

HTupolev

Member
Yup but the best part is you benefit from ranks even when you don't care! Cause you get matched with people your skill and not level 50's in groups trolling against kids in social.
"Non-ranked" playlists still have skill matching, though it's sometimes not as strict as "ranked" skill matching.

Something like CSR which isn't even a modification to the in-game interface will likely have no bearing on playlist functionality.
 
"Non-ranked" playlists still have skill matching, though it's sometimes not as strict as "ranked" skill matching.

Easter Bunny and Santa Claus ranking systems, Real ranking system is four corners true. You are educated stupid. Read all about my belly button logic.
 

Conor 419

Banned
Well I got banned for posting a picture of Captain Price and not stating it was Captain Price...for two weeks. So that was super fucking lehm, as obviously that destroyed the Easter playdate which was being prepared so nicely.

1. Conor 419
2. Arnie
3. Silly.Mikey
4. Mormapope
5. Mystery Guest
6. Kamikaze Ghazi
7. StalkerUKCG
8. Monsterfracas
9. IHaveIce GT = IHaveAnIce
10. DeadNames
11. Foxtrot
12. Devolution
13. Redford
14. TCKaos
15. Madness
16. Kittens

+ Available if Space,

1. versatil7
2.gAg CruSh3r
3. randomrosso93
4. rogue ag3nt 1
5. Wahrer

I spoke to the mystery guest and they were a disappointed with the delay, but are still happy to play sometime soon. The question is, are you?
 

NOKYARD

Member
The question is, are you?
Will be too busy getting my Grifty.

Both bases should have been like the waterfall base. Then it'd just need most of the stuff in the middle removed and some high ground on the sides. Dunno why it had to be asymmetrical.
That's why i moved the bases to the side balconies of the map. In Flag games Solari is symmetrical. It wasn't really designed for Doubles Slayer since players will generally gravitate to their favourite (Railgun) base anyway. The next version addresses this issue in a unique way, if it ever gets deployed.
 
The logistics and scheduling of getting 20 people on at once for a huge game like that is insane.

You need to just set a date ahead of time and let people who can make that date and time signup.
 
Will be too busy getting my Grifty.


That's why i moved the bases to the side balconies of the map. In Flag games Solari is symmetrical. It wasn't really designed for Doubles Slayer since players will generally gravitate to their favourite (Railgun) base anyway. The next version addresses this issue in a unique way, if it ever gets deployed.

Smart thinking.
 

NOKYARD

Member
Smart thinking.
Well, when the next version goes up players will either think i'm brilliant, or a complete idiot, depending on their play style.

The two main problems with Slayer Pro on that map (other than the default Solace issues) are dominance of the Railgun balcony, and lack of map movement caused by dominance of the Railgun balcony.

I solved both issues using an unconventional method (thanks to Over), while keeping the Railgun on the balcony where it belongs. Hopefully it stays intact through test.
 
Well, when the next version goes up players will either think i'm brilliant, or a complete idiot, depending on their play style.

The two main problems with Slayer Pro on that map (other than the default Solace issues) are dominance of the Railgun balcony, and lack of map movement caused by dominance of the Railgun balcony.

I solved both issues using an unconventional method (thanks to Over), while keeping the Railgun on the balcony where it belongs. Hopefully it stays intact through test.

Are you not allowed to say what you did to it, or do you just want it to be a surprise?
 

Duji

Member
Too bad kyle was banned during the whole GDC thing. I would like to hear what he has to say about MC's new wheels.
 
Both of these made me think of how we got the Global Ordnance being random. 343's reasoning was that players didn't know where the power weapons were and when they were spawning, so the better players kept dominating.

What was their solution? Randomized Global Ordnance + Infinity gametypes. <-- Solves nothing and only serves to frustrate players.

What was the better solution? Put a timer and a waypoint on where/when the power weapons were spawning. <-- Knowledge is power.*


I would like to think Halo fans have been with the franchise for a long time and are aware of the PR jibber jabber we're still being fed. Bungie did it for years, but it seems people in general are more conscious of it now. Halo fans have been in a rough place for quite some time..


*Tangent: It also baffles me how they add so much to the HUD (+10 HEADSHOT) and take away useful information like deathmarks and who. is. holding. the. OB/Flag. It's almost like they think Halo players are dumb and don't know that you should already Escort the ball guy in OB so they emphasize it by only having ESCORT visible at all times unless you point directly at their body with your reticle. It's insulting, really.

The problem in a nutshell. Can't let skill triumph anymore. Every schmuck must win even if we have to fuck up gameplay and balance massively.

Why not just roll dice instead?

Just do this for every encounter next game.

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Duji

Member
The problem in a nutshell. Can't let skill triumph anymore. Every schmuck must win even if we have to fuck up gameplay and balance massively.

Why not just roll dice instead?

Just do this for every encounter next game.

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Feels like Halo
4
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TheOddOne

Member
They kind of fixed that problem with adding weapon indicators. They should have stopped there, but instead made a small problem even bigger.
 
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