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Halo |OT19| 793 Posts, And None Worth Reading

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regard: Polygon = residentsleeper

Phil Kollar's Halo career is nothing short of "illusory", as he puts it. He has no business writing a review for anything Halo especially saying "Its lost what makes Halo special" because he doesn't know what makes Halo special...

That said, fuck microtransactions.

How is Spartan Assault in your opinion btw?

Have yet to play it.
 

m23

Member
regard: Polygon = residentsleeper

Phil Kollar's Halo career is nothing short of "illusory", as he puts it. He has no business writing a review for anything Halo especially saying "Its lost what makes Halo special" because he doesn't know what makes Halo special...

That said, fuck microtransactions.

How is Spartan Assault in your opinion btw?
 
Such a beautiful post. You sir, are a king among men.

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Needs to be in the OP and every new page.

I think we just found our first article for HaloGAF Magazine.
 

Nebula

Member
If anyone remembers Asphalt from Halo Reach BTB, would you like to see it made into an actual map?

I had ridiculous amounts of fun on it.
 

DeadNames

Banned
If anyone remembers Asphalt from Halo Reach BTB, would you like to see it made into an actual map?

I had ridiculous amounts of fun on it.

Which one was that? I remember a lot of the Community Cartographer maps were pretty decent.

And on the topic of maps... I'm gonna come out and say it.. Sword Base was pretty fun. If Reach didn't have broken as hell armor abilites and the grenades, it would be a pretty good map. As long as the yellow lift room was blocked off.
 

BigShow36

Member
All these rationalizations regarding them removing weapons for X reason because Y netcode and Z datapoint are missing one significant fact.

Fact: they removed a decent, mildly skillful, fun weapon and replaced it with a shitty, skill-less, un-fun weapon.

Frankly, I don't care what their professed reason for removing or adding a weapon was. All I care about is how it turned out.

This has always been the crux of my arguments. You can make all the excuses in the world for WHY you did or did not do something, but if the end result in-game is bad, then you're a bad game designer. Bungie and 343 have given me a million excuses over the years, but the end result is that the MP has gotten progressively worse and worse. That's why I criticize; if you can't objectively see the affects your decisions are having on the game, REGARDLESS of your rationalizations for them, then you're a bad designer.
 

Mistel

Banned
Which one was that? I remember a lot of the Community Cartographer maps were pretty decent.

And on the topic of maps... I'm gonna come out and say it.. Sword Base was pretty fun. If Reach didn't have broken as hell armor abilites and the grenades, it would be a pretty good map. As long as the yellow lift room was blocked off.

Asphalt was this map:
Kinda a big box really with different levels lower for vehicles and upper for mixed combat worked quite well. I preferred delta facility (mount lam lam i kinda liked or maybe abridged) :
Can we even view screen shots on waypoint?
BTB could have really done with more falcon inclusion it was used as transport in spire invasion for the objective which was always hilarious to watch.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
"Oh, people really loved this thing? Well.. let's remove it and give some reason fans will gobble up!"

Frankie: "Grenade Launcher was rarely used so we removed it." lol.. What the hell kind of "stats" are they looking at? Bungie used to do the sameeeee shit... Justify boneheaded decisions by using "data" - I'd rather them just not say anything than make up crazy excuses like that. I'm sure that's one of the reasons we're not behind the scenes during the development process, because devs/publishers are so damn controlling. How about just being open and not lying? Not to call you out Stinkles, but you know that's some crap. Then what you said about Red X's being gone not being a big deal because we can see when our teammates' names disappear..

No.

Hey Microsoft, you guys messed up big time with that 14 day play for free map pack and now look how no one respects you. Yet I'm probably going to be depicted as the bad guy for pointing this out on a "smaller" scale when it's terrible communication skills and avoidance of FUN that have been killing this franchise for years. I would love to learn more about Bungie's relationship with Microsoft over those years and see what was really going on.


It's a new year, so let's start over. Halo 5 will hopefully be the best Halo since the original Xbox.

I do not like being called a liar. Please don't do it. I have never deliberately lied to anyone I wasn't trying to romance. I have certainly been WRONG, on countless occasions, in fact, I have disagreed with people, I have given explanations that people simply didn't like, I have communicated features and facts that have later changed. I have teased, obfuscated and trolled. But please do not call me a liar.


Happy New Year.
 

Nebula

Member
Asphalt was this map:

Kinda a big box really with different levels lower for vehicles and upper for mixed combat worked quite well. I preferred delta facility (mount lam lam i kinda liked or maybe abridged) :

Can we even view screen shots on waypoint?
BTB could have really done with more falcon inclusion it was used as transport in spire invasion for the objective which was always hilarious to watch.

You're my favourite poster. Although Mount Lam Lam was a bit strange. Decent but played weirdly. Maybe when Halo 5 releases we can go run BTB.

We need more BTB dongers in HaloGAF. Oh and a game to dong on.
 
I do not like being called a liar. Please don't do it. I have never deliberately lied to anyone I wasn't trying to romance. I have certainly been WRONG, on countless occasions, in fact, I have disagreed with people, I have given explanations that people simply didn't like, I have communicated features and facts that have later changed. I have teased, obfuscated and trolled. But please do not call me a liar.


Happy New Year.

I want this as a tag.
 

Fuchsdh

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If anyone remembers Asphalt from Halo Reach BTB, would you like to see it made into an actual map?

I had ridiculous amounts of fun on it.

I did like Asphalt as well, it had a vaguely ODST-like vibe and would rock as a developer map. I miss vertical maps--really we have only gotten those kinds of elevations in Halo 1 maps mostly.

I do not like being called a liar. Please don't do it. I have never deliberately lied to anyone I wasn't trying to romance. I have certainly been WRONG, on countless occasions, in fact, I have disagreed with people, I have given explanations that people simply didn't like, I have communicated features and facts that have later changed. I have teased, obfuscated and trolled. But please do not call me a liar.


Happy New Year.

Frankie lies to the women in his life? I forsee a series of heightened and improbable Hollywood plots may arise...

I am honestly amazed you don't have one yet. Some of your posts are just so damn taggable.

We're in a ghetto of our own. A strange, salty ghetto.
 
You're my favourite poster. Although Mount Lam Lam was a bit strange. Decent but played weirdly. Maybe when Halo 5 releases we can go run BTB.

We need more BTB dongers in HaloGAF. Oh and a game to dong on.

They really fucked BTB in H4, All I played back in Reach was Invasion and BTB... now I have barely touched Dominion aka I dunno wtf is going on aka why can't I hold all these ordinance drops... don't even get me started on BTB and personal loadouts wich kill vehicle combat.
 

DeadNames

Banned
They really fucked BTB in H4, All I played back in Reach was Invasion and BTB... now I have barely touched Dominion aka I dunno wtf is going on aka why can't I hold all these ordinance drops... don't even get me started on BTB and personal loadouts wich kill vehicle combat.

Yeah. BTB was my jam in Reach. The clusterfuck known as Infinity Slayer and people spawning with PP/stickies just ruined it for me. Not to mention Ragnarok was awful with people jetpacking around while sniping people with their binary rifles.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
I forgot how unfair teams versus randoms in COD Hardcore is.

I got deliberately spawn trapped on the Flood level and I got to see the guy every time he shot me. It was like playing a modded level from Halo 2.
 

TheOddOne

Member
I do not like being called a liar. Please don't do it. I have never deliberately lied to anyone I wasn't trying to romance. I have certainly been WRONG, on countless occasions, in fact, I have disagreed with people, I have given explanations that people simply didn't like, I have communicated features and facts that have later changed. I have teased, obfuscated and trolled. But please do not call me a liar.

Happy New Year.
Shia Labeouf used you as inspiration for his Flintstone character.

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You should have left it. It was good.
 

gAg CruSh3r

Member
I forgot how unfair teams versus randoms in COD Hardcore is.

I got deliberately spawn trapped on the Flood level and I got to see the guy every time he shot me. It was like playing a modded level from Halo 2.

Awe the good old days. Got to love spawn killing right?
 
But funk also made well detailed posts in the past :( don't be so harsh.
Funk says one thing and everyone comes out of the woodwork to shit down his neck...
Call me when the HGS slrp is over.
It's the same few people waiting for any opportunity to crap on my hyperbolic and "childish" posts, completely disregarding all my posts before them.

My use of FUN is deliberate. Why? Because we're talking about a video game and each Halo release is less fun than the last. What's so complicated about this? Have we not spoken in depth about aim assist, bullet magnetism, etc.? Why is this constantly disregarded when trying to shit on other people's posts when they've talked extensively about this stuff in the past?

Seems Karl forgot to throw that in his little wall.

Halo CE could work online np

Take Halo CE's:

Movement speed
weapons (and exact weapon stats)
spawns (this is the big one)

Add: Halo 3 or 4's netcode (deciding whether you want projectiles or not)

Would you get the Halo CE on LAN feel exactly? No.

Would you get a Halo game better than 2,3,Reach and 4?

YES.
That's the key IMO. Take the best aspects of each game and create them in an environment within the improved netcode these days. CE weapons on dedicated servers in an updated engine.. How can some people twist that into being a bad thing??

All these rationalizations regarding them removing weapons for X reason because Y netcode and Z datapoint are missing one significant fact.

Fact: they removed a decent, mildly skillful, fun weapon and replaced it with a shitty, skill-less, un-fun weapon.

Frankly, I don't care what their professed reason for removing or adding a weapon was. All I care about is how it turned out.

This has always been the crux of my arguments. You can make all the excuses in the world for WHY you did or did not do something, but if the end result in-game is bad, then you're a bad game designer. Bungie and 343 have given me a million excuses over the years, but the end result is that the MP has gotten progressively worse and worse. That's why I criticize; if you can't objectively see the affects your decisions are having on the game, REGARDLESS of your rationalizations for them, then you're a bad designer.
The bolded is something is often disregarded when going into a new release; people forget of allllllllllllll the shit the fans have been put through over what? Because Bungie wanted to kill off the idea of a utility weapon? Because Bungie wanted to create intentional inconsistencies and randomness to give lesser-skilled players a chance to beat players better than them through artifical means??

Give me a damn break.. OddOne creating that infographic just shows the little clique they have when many people aside from myself have proven it to be full of crap without taking everything into consideration. Fuck the noise.

I do not like being called a liar. Please don't do it. I have never deliberately lied to anyone I wasn't trying to romance. I have certainly been WRONG, on countless occasions, in fact, I have disagreed with people, I have given explanations that people simply didn't like, I have communicated features and facts that have later changed. I have teased, obfuscated and trolled. But please do not call me a liar.

Happy New Year.
So how can you willingly say some of the things over the years without consciously being aware of it being BS? You're obviously a smart dude, so that's why I labeled it as such. Either way, maybe "lying" was a poor choice of words for the point I was getting across and I hope you didn't take the tone of that post offensively.

It's just the poor communication we've seen over the years doesn't make sense, especially when we're often left in the dark. Outside of Halo forums and Halo fans, I defend this franchise like no other, despite being aware of these things. We all want more people to play Halo, we all want Halo to be better, and many of our ideas overlap, but some of these decisions don't make sense, so when coupled with bizarre reasoning that doesn't acknowledge greater issues people begin to lose faith. However, look at how many people want Halo 5 to be excellent and are ready to drop a lot of money just to get it.

Also, you may not like being called a liar but I don't like your many Pistol jokes ;]
Fight me.
 
I forgot how unfair teams versus randoms in COD Hardcore is.

I got deliberately spawn trapped on the Flood level and I got to see the guy every time he shot me. It was like playing a modded level from Halo 2.

Oh man, COD HC? aka smg fest aka shoot trought walls aka run like hell
 

Mistel

Banned
You're my favourite poster. Although Mount Lam Lam was a bit strange. Decent but played weirdly. Maybe when Halo 5 releases we can go run BTB.

We need more BTB dongers in HaloGAF. Oh and a game to dong on.
BTB is easy to dong on in 4 even with my carbine people suck at mid range,I found some of my reach BTB screen shots (I know there not great).
I'm in the wraith then got a triple kill from that falcon on delta facility.
Double kill with the turret on Mt Lam Lam those rocks where great for cover flow was a bit weird some times.
It is a shame 4 BTB has PP and nades and the turrets out in the open.

That character sheet
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TheXbox

Member
So how can you willingly say some of the things over the years without consciously being aware of it being BS? You're obviously a smart dude, so that's why I labeled it as such. Either way, maybe "lying" was a poor choice of words for the point I was getting across and I hope you didn't take the tone of that post offensively.

It's just the poor communication we've seen over the years doesn't make sense, especially when we're often left in the dark. Outside of Halo forums and Halo fans, I defend this franchise like no other, despite being aware of these things. We all want more people to play Halo, we all want Halo to be better, and many of our ideas overlap, but some of these decisions don't make sense, so when coupled with bizarre reasoning that doesn't acknowledge greater issues people begin to lose faith. However, look at how many people want Halo 5 to be excellent and are ready to drop a lot of money just to get it.

Also, you may not like being called a liar but I don't like your many Pistol jokes ;]
Fight me.
Don't dig this hole any deeper, mate.
 

Homeboyd

Member
If anyone remembers Asphalt from Halo Reach BTB, would you like to see it made into an actual map?

I had ridiculous amounts of fun on it.
My main man from another clam, Alzarahn, made that. He too is a CC now. Think he may have remade that map in H4. Not sure though.
 
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