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Halo |OT3| Remember Reach?

FyreWulff

Member
MM update. TU goes global minus Invasion

Competitive:

Team Slayer
Squad Slayer
The Arena
Team Snipers
Team SWAT
Invasion
Rumble Pit
Multi Team
Squad DLC (Noble required, Defiant required)
Double Team (Anniversary Required)
Anniversary Classic (Anniversary required)
Big Team Battle (Anniversary required, Anniversary maps are always in first slot)

Community:

Action Sack
Living Dead
Grifball
MLG


Cooperative:

Score Attack
Campaign Co-Op
Firefight Arcade
Firefight Doubles (Anniversary required)
 
The reason I came to adore Halo was the "everyone is on the same playing field" crap. Each subsequent game has added stuff that basically shat on this philosophy without at least having the option to play like old times off the bat. I don't know if I'm a minority in this but I've never been a fan of models that allow for more and more advantages. I'm thinking if that's an itch I want to scratch I'm probably gonna have to get back into old school PC shooters and say fuck it to everything else. I'm tired of the rock, paper, scissors class bullshit that plagues everything. I've never been a fan of "unlocking" stuff or having "perks." If I am alone in this then I'll just have to stop playing shit altogether because I simply don't have fun with any of that crap.

I've expressed similar feelings in the past. I certainly prefer the level playing field, but maybe I'll find I can tolerate CoD-style loadouts if the movement and gunplay still feel like Halo.

At the very least, it's reassuring to know that the tournament-friendly system link and custom game settings won't be restricted by matchmaking's player investment system. I can only hope that whatever Arena/ranked playlists exist will also be exempt from such experience-based follies.
 

Havok

Member
MM update. TU goes global minus Invasion

Competitive:

Team Slayer
Squad Slayer
The Arena
Team Snipers
Team SWAT
Invasion
Rumble Pit
Multi Team
Squad DLC (Noble required, Defiant required)
Double Team (Anniversary Required)
Anniversary Classic (Anniversary required)
Big Team Battle (Anniversary required, Anniversary maps are always in first slot)
Five Slayer playlists. Four playlists that might as well be Slayer playlists given the weightings and general player voting tendencies. No dedicated objective.

Halo 3-2.

I don't like the playerbase that causes this list to make sense.
 

FyreWulff

Member
Five Slayer playlists. Four playlists that might as well be Slayer playlists. No dedicated objective.

Halo 3-2.

I don't like the playerbase that causes this list to make sense.

Objective gametypes get moved into Squad DLC. Otherwise, it's an easy cut due to it's shit population.

Most of the other lists are locked in by the stupid DLC achievements. If I could cut down the amount of SLAYER SLAYER SLAYER I could. But you can't. Reach has way too many lists that became locked in by achieveables, versus Halo 3 which can run with as few as 3 playlists.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
I've expressed similar feelings in the past. I certainly prefer the level playing field, but maybe I'll find I can tolerate CoD-style loadouts if the movement and gunplay still feel like Halo.

At the very least, it's reassuring to know that the tournament-friendly system link and custom game settings won't be restricted by matchmaking's player investment system. I can only hope that whatever Arena/ranked playlists exist will also be exempt from such experience-based follies.

Since they have the ability to provide a default, appropriate load out for everyone at the start of a match, I imagine they have the ability to do so, and then make that the only load out option. That's what I imagine MLG-type playlists will feature, so that a level playing field remains.
 
Since they have the ability to provide a default, appropriate load out for everyone at the start of a match, I imagine they have the ability to do so, and then make that the only load out option. That's what I imagine MLG-type playlists will feature, so that a level playing field remains.

Yep. *fingers crossed*

Realistically, my biggest fears for multiplayer aren't related to loadouts, ordnance drops, or Prometheus vision. I'm mostly interested in seeing how 343 approaches vehicle balance (and how they plan to keep plasma pistol and DMR loadouts from wrecking BTB).
 

Havok

Member
Objective gametypes get moved into Squad DLC. Otherwise, it's an easy cut due to it's shit population.

Most of the other lists are locked in by the stupid DLC achievements.
I'm not saying it doesn't make sense, just that I will stubbornly drag my feet the entire way when it comes to Objective just on principle. The population is steady, but low (thus my disdain for much of the playerbase). There didn't seem to be any change when they gave it the Super Jackpot, either. At this point I don't know that anything can improve the population short of moving it to the top of the listing. I can't really tell if they're trying to improve it with the Win Bonus doubling, either. It just seems so halfhearted.

They really wrote themselves into a corner with their achievement restrictions. I'd like to see a way for them to just make Multi-Team the achievement shithole and shove everything that they can into it. It's already a complete disaster, might as well use it as a sacrifice to make some cuts. That, or go back to the 'any achievement, any map' philosophy from before.
 
I've expressed similar feelings in the past. I certainly prefer the level playing field, but maybe I'll find I can tolerate CoD-style loadouts if the movement and gunplay still feel like Halo.

At the very least, it's reassuring to know that the tournament-friendly system link and custom game settings won't be restricted by matchmaking's player investment system. I can only hope that whatever Arena/ranked playlists exist will also be exempt from such experience-based follies.

Loadouts wouldn't even have been a big deal for me if they weren't in everything. The fact that they didn't think about some people not digging it and preferring to play a more "classic" Halo really bothers me.
 

FyreWulff

Member
I'm not saying it doesn't make sense, just that I will stubbornly drag my feet the entire way when it comes to Objective just on principle. The population is steady, but low (thus my disdain for much of the playerbase). There didn't seem to be any change when they gave it the Super Jackpot, either. At this point I don't know that anything can improve the population short of moving it to the top of the listing.

Sometimes I wonder if Team Objective would improve if it just took a time out for a month and came back under a new name, like Team Skirmish or something.
 
The reason I came to adore Halo was the "everyone is on the same playing field" crap. Each subsequent game has added stuff that basically shat on this philosophy without at least having the option to play like old times off the bat. I don't know if I'm a minority in this but I've never been a fan of models that allow for more and more advantages. I'm thinking if that's an itch I want to scratch I'm probably gonna have to get back into old school PC shooters and say fuck it to everything else. I'm tired of the rock, paper, scissors class bullshit that plagues everything. I've never been a fan of "unlocking" stuff or having "perks." If I am alone in this then I'll just have to stop playing shit altogether because I simply don't have fun with any of that crap.
I completely agree, and it's exactly why I don't play any other console shooter out there besides Halo. The whole carrot on a stick philosophy to design just turns me right off, and even when it was fresh with CoD4 I couldn't stomach it for too long. I didn't even get half-way to my first prestige before I sold it off and haven't played a CoD since. I've only gotten less tolerant of it now, when the Starhawk beta came out I played it for all of 10 minutes before I uninstalled it and completely wrote it off as a game because it also had all this unlock nonsense. I also hated Reach's loadout selection because it forced you to make a choice going in blind, and if you ever wanted to switch abilities you had to die to do it. Garbage.

I guess I just pine for the days when everything was upfront, and that the fun of the game actually came from its core design rather than this feel good and get treats at every level interval.
 
Yep. *fingers crossed*

Realistically, my biggest fears for multiplayer aren't related to loadouts, ordnance drops, or Prometheus vision. I'm mostly interested in seeing how 343 approaches vehicle balance (and how they plan to keep plasma pistol and DMR loadouts from wrecking BTB).

As long as the mechanics, gunplay, movement, etc are great, the rest is less of a concern. Some of it will fall into place, some other things I may not like, but if they can nail the core gameplay, I can deal with ordinance drops, unlocks, jetpacks, etc (at least I think I can lol).
 

Havok

Member
Which one is that? I don't remember names of Forge Maps.
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Creator: "Cover? What's that? *laughs*"

Also, I finally got around to messing with Halo 2 Vista. Only took about 3 hours to work out all the stuttering bugs and weird loading issues. On a PC that maxed out The Witcher 2 without breaking a sweat. Still need a wireless receiver though, kb/m feels terrible with this game. Looks super sharp still though!
 

Havok

Member
Oh I still hate that square one with huge hallway corners with rockets in the middle more.
That describes probably 80% of the matchmaking Forge World variants.

Edit, unrelated: Not messing with H2V anymore until I get a controller solution. KB/M might as well be unplayable. The UI not changing based on input configuration is the laziest thing I have ever seen.
 

Domino Theory

Crystal Dynamics
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Creator: "Cover? What's that? *laughs*"

Also, I finally got around to messing with Halo 2 Vista. Only took about 3 hours to work out all the stuttering bugs and weird loading issues. On a PC that maxed out The Witcher 2 without breaking a sweat. Still need a wireless receiver though, kb/m feels terrible with this game. Looks super sharp still though!

Loving the color variety.
 
Me and a couple friends are playing Halo 3 customs, anyone is welcome to join. Message Nightmare22m for an invite.

What kind of customs do you play? I would love to play some competitive halo 3 again sometime!

I don't know why you guys even bother getting on without at least one other to play with.

I will not get on unless I know that at least one other person on my team will be decent and
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If you only have a short amount of time to play its not always practical to play with others. Hopefully halo 4 has a mercenaries playlist
 
If you only have a short amount of time to play its not always practical to play with others. Hopefully halo 4 has a mercenaries playlist
Yeah, I'd love that. Or if not a specific playlist, have it matchmake you according to how many people you go in with. It always sucks being a part of four randoms against a group of people who play with eachother and are completely coordinated.
 

JuanGGZ

Banned
Call me crazy, but I like the old DMR more. It even seems to have more detail model/texture wise.

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We've made a similar comparison in France, and everyone is okay to say the DMR in Reach looks way better than the Halo 4's DMR.

It has been a while since I went on NeoGaf, but someone has already noticed the grade system for Halo 4 seems to be very similar to Reach ? Maybe it's just some placeholders. David ? Frank ?



 
Hey Karl, I got the same messages a couple of months ago, exact same wording, weird, was trying to look for the messages but they are deleted, however I do think I have the most obscene inbox on here.

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That last one was hate mail, awesome hate mail.

Names removed to protect anonymity.

Edit: I should also add that those are 5 separate people.
 
Hey Karl, I got messages me that a couple of months ago, exact same wording, weird, was trying to look for the messages but they are deleted, however I do think I have the most obscene inbox on here.

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That last one was hate mail, awesome hate mail.

Names removed to protect anonymity.

How do you manage to get shit like this?
 

Mik2121

Member
Ughh.. getting back into Reach, forgot the horrible matchmaking stuff where people leaves and you're left on a team with less people and nobody else joins... It would be great if I could play with some of you guys :)

Can any of you add me?... my gamertag is M1k2121

I posted this earlier (two days ago or so?) but nobody added me :(
 

Gazzawa

Member
chi...chiggy check :(

lol. cool. I only play when the rest of the gang is playing. Mostly based in (Ireland & Uk) Unfortunately some people are too busy with some of the hot releases right now. But its almost Summer so there will be plenty of timez for Haloz.
 
This is amazing, I was watching my sister play Reach, someone betrayed her, so I took over, punched him off the map (he was on a ledge), gave the controller back to her, he betrayed her again then she booted him.

Game ended and we got the jackpot, the hilarity that we punched him off the map to make him suicide himself and also managed to make him miss out on the jackpot is awesome.
 
lol. cool. I only play when the rest of the gang is playing. Mostly based in (Ireland & Uk) Unfortunately some people are too busy with some of the hot releases right now. But its almost Summer so there will be plenty of timez for Haloz.

Yes....Krow!

This is amazing, I was watching my sister play Reach, someone betrayed her, so I took over, punched him off the map (he was on a ledge), gave the controller back to her, he betrayed her again then she booted him.

Game ended and we got the jackpot, the hilarity that we punched him off the map to make him suicide himself and also managed to make him miss out on the jackpot is awesome.

Siblings playing Halo the way it was meant to be played, warms my heart.
 

Mik2121

Member
lol. cool. I only play when the rest of the gang is playing. Mostly based in (Ireland & Uk) Unfortunately some people are too busy with some of the hot releases right now. But its almost Summer so there will be plenty of timez for Haloz.

Sounds fair. I'm in Japan so it might be hard to match up, but the lag shouldn't be that bad.. I've played with a bunch of people in the US and it always worked smoothly.
 

Gazzawa

Member
Sounds fair. I'm in Japan so it might be hard to match up, but the lag shouldn't be that bad.. I've played with a bunch of people in the US and it always worked smoothly.

you should post some of the environment design you've done bro.
you will make alot of friends here if ya do!
 

Mik2121

Member
you should post some of the environment design you've done bro.
you will make alot of friends here if ya do!

Hahah, funny thing is.. I barely started a new personal project (pretty much a design) and I'm taking a few ideas from one of the two Halo 4 MP levels announced.

Also I used to post around when Reach got released, and even made some avatars that were used on the bnet forums :_)

But yeah... it's been so long since the last time I played, most people probably forgot about me :p
 
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