Franklinator
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It is funny, each piece of info we hear seems to be more worrying than the last.
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Halo |OT4| Trust's a Tough Thing to Come by These Days
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ViewtifulJC
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More importantly, does he only play shooters?
StalkerUKCG
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Im still mega hyped for the game. More hyped than iv ever been for a halo title.
Franklinator
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I'm still kinda hyped, but worried about almost every detail I've heard so far.
Hopefully E3 smooths everything over and brings the hype back.
I'm hyped for Halo 4 because of campaign and Spartan Ops.
As for multiplayer, to be honest, unless there's a lot more that hasn't been shown, I just don't know. I have a feeling it's going to be similar to my experience with Reach. In my first few months with Reach, I honestly pondered whether it was my favorite Halo. As time grew on, its faults became all too apparent, and I now consider it the worst Halo.
That said, I still think Halo 4 will be better than Reach.
As for multiplayer, to be honest, unless there's a lot more that hasn't been shown, I just don't know. I have a feeling it's going to be similar to my experience with Reach. In my first few months with Reach, I honestly pondered whether it was my favorite Halo. As time grew on, its faults became all too apparent, and I now consider it the worst Halo.
That said, I still think Halo 4 will be better than Reach.
Mister Negative
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I've never been hyped for a Halo game until H4 was announced, its always been (from h2) h2 mp is too good, I don't want h3 to come, then after a while of playing h3, I don't want reach to come because h3 is becoming decent and then I WANT H4 to come because Reach is terrible
Loved CE back then. Now I notice it's flaws and am less tolerant of things I don't like(thanks Reach). As for Neil, I like his stuff. It's what we've been presented with for Halo 4 that I don't like. I said before that I liked the concept art trailer(and I think would be a great fit for future Halo scores) and the Halo 4 reveal music. I don't like the music that has been released since the composer reveal. It just doesn't sound Halo-ey.
Was this directed towards me? And no, I enjoy my SC2, D2, WC3, Wars, and Skyrim. I was merely commenting on the games that I was playing recently.
Ok, here's my Halo 4 E3 predictions, if anyone cares
-You can create your own weapon skins
-Valhalla or the Pit come back as remakes
-Ability to watch films in parties comes back
-Forge gets actual colors +terrain/weather alteration
-Film clips are now able to be rendered and uploaded on Youtube
-Clan Support
-Waypoint to receive major overhaul to coincide with Halo 4's release
-Enemy is not directly shown, but is strongly hinted at
-Spartan Ops/Multiplayer playable on the show floor
-1 new map (a BTB one) revealed, with extensive coverage of that map +Wraparound/Warhouse
-The entire presentation consists of the 1st level being played through from start to finish, followed by a 4v4 multiplayer match between 343 devs
And a few random megatons which have maybe a .000001% chance of happening:
-The UNSC Infinity is actually on a mission to destroy Requiem, and the chief fights the Spartan IVs
-The Arbiter is back (although that's actually pretty likely, now that I think about it)
-PC version of Halo 4 confirmed
no one cares
-You can create your own weapon skins
-Valhalla or the Pit come back as remakes
-Ability to watch films in parties comes back
-Forge gets actual colors +terrain/weather alteration
-Film clips are now able to be rendered and uploaded on Youtube
-Clan Support
-Waypoint to receive major overhaul to coincide with Halo 4's release
-Enemy is not directly shown, but is strongly hinted at
-Spartan Ops/Multiplayer playable on the show floor
-1 new map (a BTB one) revealed, with extensive coverage of that map +Wraparound/Warhouse
-The entire presentation consists of the 1st level being played through from start to finish, followed by a 4v4 multiplayer match between 343 devs
And a few random megatons which have maybe a .000001% chance of happening:
-The UNSC Infinity is actually on a mission to destroy Requiem, and the chief fights the Spartan IVs
-The Arbiter is back (although that's actually pretty likely, now that I think about it)
-PC version of Halo 4 confirmed
biosnake20
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I care
Franklinator
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No one cares
ViewtifulJC
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biosnake20 just sent me a PM, and I'm sorry to put your business out like this bro, but I think it's funny this time.
"I actually don't care"
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Mister Negative
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Yes please, both of these things happening would be nice.
The megaton I highlighted probably wouldn't be revealed at E3, but I've felt that that would happen in the story for a while now.
Bolded the only ones I think could happen.
Might as well follow with my predictions:
-New trailer shown, or perhaps a ViDoc style clip
-Three to five minutes of campaign gameplay shown of a random mission, likely not the first mission.
-Run down of Master Chief's new abilities. Sprint, boost-jump, and perhaps something we haven't seen.
-Glimpse of new minor enemy during gameplay, focusing on upgraded AI and new attacks.
-Explaination of upgraded engine, able to generate more detailed textures, lighting, AA, etc.
-Tease of a major enemy at the very end of the playthrough.
-Brief glimpse into multiplayer, explaining the Infinity and new player features (loadouts, abilities, weapon and armor customization)
Then of course the Spike exclusive coverage of Spartan Ops on the separate special. Will receive little to no time during Microsoft's conference.
What problems did Valhalla and Tempest have?
Tempest is terrible for vehicle combat, and has way too much unused space. The bases are also terribly designed, one of the worst BTB maps Bungie ever crapped out. The objective spawns are just icing on the cake...
I dunno about the spawns, but everything else I disagree with, with the possible exception of vehicle play.
The best. Especially with BTB Flag. And Standoff in the same light.
ViewtifulJC
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Looks like Gears 2 gold, which looks like they painted it yellow and its ugly as shit. LIke a big hunk of cheese
The gold weapon skins in Gears 3, however, are more subtle/nuanced in their color, and they're better for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytIvDn9E3Hs
Behind the bases & both sides of the ocean/river are completely worthless. The only thing you see people doing is getting a sniper and running back to a corner behind a rock on both sides.
I'm not sure what kind of headset you're looking for, but Newegg has refurbed Turtle Beach X41's on the cheap. I've been using them for a couple months, they sound great, and no problems at all.
If you hated Avalanche so much, I'd hate to hear what you thought of Sidewinder. That map was amazing but it felt like a fucking epic journey just to get from one place to another.
No.
The Real Napsta
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Tempest is garbage.
Nah, Avalanche had some amazing vehicle combat, Tempest doesn't have good vehicle or infantry combat. Basically a game of whack a mole with people poking their heads out over the rocks before they get 5 shot from the back of the map. Maybe it would play better with a different weapon, the DMR really took a dump on BTB mechanics.
It's got base escape issues, has advantage to Red Team (the pelican favors sniping Blues from the way they positioned it), and it centers too much around holding the central hill in everything but Territories.
They tried to fix this with Tempest by making the center hill concave with the mini-canyon, but vehicle movement is still restricted much like Valhalla. I'd like to see them get the vehicle freedom of Hem/Coag/Gulch but with the infantry friendliness of Valhalla/Tempest without the infantry spawn issues of either. Also Tempest has issues with safely spawning infantry, and Bungie's last update that sidelocked Tempest in Slayer didn't really do it much favors at all.
Mister Negative
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A lot of the time, I feel like Reach maps are more suited to AR/Pistol gameplay than they are to DMR gameplay.
Must be why I like AR/Pistol so much. Wish I could play it more.
No. Stop ruining Halo, thanks.
ViewtifulJC
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We were down 2 kills in a BTB match and couldn't figure out where the hell the other team had gone. Then we realized they were hiding behind their base in the water. Charging towards them with rockets... and didn't manage to close the gap in time.
So it had a use. An infuriating use.
True 'dat. The AR in Reach just felt so meaty and fun. Especially with higher movement speed in anniversary.
Mister Negative
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You get it. Of course I prefer the DMR. But it gets rather boring after a while. I enjoy the style of play that AR starts lend themselves to, occasionally.
Everyone in here apparently assumes that I want to get rid of the DMR completely and make every playlist AR starts all the time.
If anything, I'd do the opposite. Make every playlist DMR start but have one playlist where there are no rifles at all.
not really. Most times in a vehicle on Avalanche you were either powerdrained, driving around aimlessly and hoping to see a person/immediately get blown up by the tank, or you were so bored that you hit the mancannons to fly into the enemy base.
Or they could get rid of the DMR/BR, beef up the pistol and make the AR an effective weapon
As nonsensical as the weapon roles in Combat Evolved could be, they were a lot of fun.Mister Negative
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Or they could get rid of the DMR/BR, beef up the pistol and make the AR an effective weapon
Nah, I like the direction H4 is taking with it. I'm sure the BR will remain the weapon of choice, as it should be, but I definitely see myself starting with the AR from time to time for funsies.
A27 Tawpgun said:
Like fuchsdh said, it's just because the AR in reach is such a fun gun. Sounds good, looks good, tears through shields like crazy. I also like that it gives a little more sandbox variety, having to choose between your AR and pistol rather than just letting your DMR handle everything. I also don't have to try very hard with it, so it's good for a break from strafing and 5-shotting. It's a little more chaotic, there's nades flying, and a lot of the time there's just 8 people in a central area all shooting each other with full auto weapons.
Steelyuhas
Member
Sidewinder plays much different than Avalanche. (Which is partially the games playing much differently).
I love Sidewinder, Avalanche is pretty mediocre.
Valhalla: Sit on hill to win game because hill is nearly unassailable, Pelican and base imbalance (easier to trap cliffside team), one giant useless space over by turret/bubble shield/radio tower spawn.
Tempest: No vehicle routes, enemies spawn on top of objective spot making pushes very difficult, massive swaths of useless space behind each base, a plethora of hiding spots, and the fact that the map just should not have sniper rifles.
Neither work well with the standard 4v4 and 8v8 player count, instead being best in the Squad Battle 6v6 environment that is always dead a month after it launches.
On Avalanche: Map would have drastically benefited from movement of the Overshield and Snipers away from the middle hallway, removal of the laser, and decreased spawn timers for light vehicles. It's still probably my favorite Halo 3 map, right beside Standoff.
Hypertrooper
Member
I played a bit Halo 2 today. And it was good. I cannot wait to use the BR again.