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[Hypertrooper]

So I went deeper into Metroid’s enemy design and the inspiration for Halo 4 seems clear.

I am happy about it. Metroid Prime and Halo were the two games which fascinated me with their enemy design. Both were the Science-fiction enemy type I always wanted to kill. They looked fearsome and still interesting.

"Promethean" (is this confirmed?) Knight is not the same as a Promethean.

Spoiler

Knights are mechanical whereas Prometheans were flesh and a cast of warriors. Very tall, around 4-5m, so no way it's them stuffed inside, and they would probably still have memories and will like the ones in the Sphinxes from Cryptum.
Funnily Orange Knights show their teeths whereas Blue Knights have full-on face plates.

It is confirmed that they are called Promethean Crawler/Watcher/Knight and there is a secret behind them.

Anyone see the details on ZombiU multiplayer? That sounds like a really fun version of Infection. I want to play it.

Also the game has no checkpoints and permadeath. If you die, you switch to being another survivor, and if you want your stuff back, you have to go find and kill your previous-now-a-zombie body.

Sounds amazing but at the end it is the only launch game which really uses the Wii-U controller.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Really hope the medals are changed by November. Compared to Reach's medals (OMG so sexy) they look terrible.

I must be few of the handful of people on here that actually likes it. I think it fits the style and I have generally got bored of the medal aesthetics used since Halo 2.

 

[TheOddOne]

I am happy about it. Metroid Prime and Halo were the two games which fascinated me with their enemy design. Both were the Science-fiction enemy type I always wanted to kill. They looked fearsome and still interesting.

I feel the same way!

You were great on the podcast btw.

 

[Mister Negative]

I must be few of the handful of people on here that actually likes it. I think it fits the style and I have generally got bored of the medal aesthetics used since Halo 2.

I just think there needs to be a little more variety in the colors. I like the bottom image there, because the medals show a little more variety. But if everything is gonna be light blue and day-glo yellow I'm not a fan.

 

[Tha Robbertster]

I must be few of the handful of people on here that actually likes it. I think it fits the style and I have generally got bored of the medal aesthetics used since Halo 2.

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Do you actually dislike anything Halo 4 related? :P

I don't see a reason why the colors should be changed. They are very iconic to the Halo franchise. Though it would fit with changing stuff without a good reason...

 

[ElzarTheBam]

I just think there needs to be a little more variety in the colors. I like the bottom image there, because the medals show a little more variety. But if everything is gonna be light blue and day-glo yellow I'm not a fan.

Yeah, I can agree with, especially the multi kill medals.

Do you actually dislike anything Halo 4 related?

Not with out actually playing it, I know you voiced your concerns, but [redacted] got me very hyped last night.

 

[TheOddOne]

I just think there needs to be a little more variety in the colors. I like the bottom image there, because the medals show a little more variety. But if everything is gonna be light blue and day-glo yellow I'm not a fan.

They feels a bit too "soft" instead of the "solid" medals of Reach.

 

[Mister Negative]

They feels a bit too "soft" instead of the "solid" medals of Reach.

That's probably on purpose. Reach was very gritty all around, it had some grain to it, the medals were "dirty," but Halo 4's aesthetic seems very clean, and I think these medals are both an extension of that and the fact that we're inside a simulation.

 

[Lifejumper]

The medals look like placeholders to me.

 

[Overdoziz]

Why is so much screen space wasted on player character models and instead of highlighting the map, mode and a few of it's settings? That is terrible.

First thing I noticed. 2/3rd of the screen is filled with the player's spartans. What do I care what they look like? I see hardly any gametype information, not even a picture of the map.

Also, no active roster. I touched on this in the podcast and it seems like you have to press X to see your friendslist. Seems like a step back in terms of usability. In Reach if you're in the menus you can always see how's online without pressing anything. Don't like it.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

The medals look like placeholders to me.

They more then likely are tbh.

 

[Tha Robbertster]

Not with out actually playing it, I know you voiced your concerns, but [redacted] got me very hyped last night.

Can't say I share that sentiment. And the grenade news is hype deflating as hell.

 

[squidhands]

Seeing the nunchuck unicorn emblem, it makes me incredibly hopeful for a squid with a knife emblem. Please.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Can't say I share that sentiment and the grenade news is hype deflating as hell.

I can understand why you don't like it, but this was great news to me.

 

[Mister Negative]

Seeing the nunchuck unicorn emblem, it makes me incredibly hopeful for a squid with a knife emblem. Please.

Holding out for gun with a sword, tbh

 

[TheOddOne]

That's probably on purpose. Reach was very gritty all around, it had some grain to it, the medals were "dirty," but Halo 4's aesthetic seems very clean, and I think these medals are both an extension of that and the fact that we're inside a simulation.

Good point. Besides that though, they don't really have much ”presence”. Hopefully it is just placeholder.

 

[Woorloog]

Also, no active roster. I touched on this in the podcast and it seems like you have to press X to see your friendslist. Seems like a step back in terms of usability. In Reach if you're in the menus you can always see how's online without pressing anything. Don't like it.

The fuck? Why would they do this?
I didn't really care about the Active Rooster before i started playing with GAF (no friends who have 360, ain't a big thing here in Finland) but now that i have used it, it MUST BE included in Halo 4. Putting it behind a buttong press is just idiotic.

 

[Hypertrooper]

TheVerge or Polygon transmutes slowly to my favorite video game site on the web. I read their hands-on with Halo 4 and it clarifies things people asked about Spartan Ops:

SPARTAN OPS: WEEKLY WARFARE
In a closed-door meeting, longtime Halo veteran Frank O'Connor likened the new Spartan Ops mode in Halo 4 to ABC's island-obsessed TV series LOST: episodic content that would create a "watercooler effect," with one "story" each week spanning five levels with 15+ minutes of content.

O'Connor promised these levels would be entirely new — not taken from the campaign, although general locales will still be familiar — and over the course of the season would be about as long as a full Halo campaign. The season will last "months — not weeks" and will launch November 6th, the same day as Halo 4, free with the standard edition.

Set six months after the events of Halo 4, there will be some spoilers — at least "one big spoiler," in fact, for the main campaign (we'll try not ruin that for you justyet). If you "miss" an episode, it'll still be available to play for the foreseeable future — good thing, since co-op or solo, Spartan Ops' campaign must be played in order.

The demo at E3 is the fifth level of the first episode, an early build with some placeholder graphics for the between-mission cutscenes. It's the same one seen in this week's new video, so feel free to live vicariously through that (continued below).

More about it here.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Seeing the nunchuck unicorn emblem, it makes me incredibly hopeful for a squid with a knife emblem. Please.

You need to get this.

 

[Mister Negative]

Good point. Besides that though, they don't really have much ”presence”. Hopefully it is just placeholder.

I would say that maybe 343 was going for something not as intrusive or in your face, but then again, we do have middle of the screen text, so there's mixed messages there.

 

[TheOddOne]

TheVerge or Polygon transmutes slowly to my favorite video game site on the web. I read their hands-on with Halo 4 and it clarifies things people asked about Spartan Ops.

Six months after the campaign? Sounds great.

 

[Overdoziz]

Not with out actually playing it, I know you voiced your concerns, but [redacted] got me very hyped last night.

I really need to play the game to see how shitty the new medals look. Half of them use the same two colors. In previous Halo games they have different colors to quickly differentiate medals from each other. The design of them truly looks like shit.

 

[Mister Negative]

TheVerge or Polygon transmutes slowly to my favorite video game site on the web. I read their hands-on with Halo 4 and it clarifies things people asked about Spartan Ops:


More about it here.

I refuse to read Polygon until they steal Ludwig Kietzmann from Joystiq and complete the trifecta.




Am I the only one that gets a very Halo 2 vibe from the menu interface? everything seems very dark and, in a way, horizontally oriented. This, in turn, makes me think back to clans, and really hope for their inclusion.

 

[TheOddOne]

I would say that maybe 343 was going for something not as intrusive or in your face, but then again, we do have middle of the screen text, so there's mixed messages there.

Haha so true.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

I really need to play the game to see how shitty the new medals look. Half of them use the same two colors. In previous Halo games they have different colors to quickly differentiate medals from each other. The design of them truly looks like shit.

Yeah, but you think everything is shitty.

Also show yourself gorramit, I want to see what you look like, you're not ginger are you?

 

[Plywood]

Yes, it does need to be said, the UI in Halo 4 is absolutely awful compared to previous Halo games. It's the one area so far where I can undoubtedly say the game has taken a serious step backwards in quality. It makes the game look like some random third party sci-fi shooter, rather than the next Halo. It doesn't exude quality.

what am i reading

 

[Gui_PT]

Yeah, but you think everything is shitty.

Sounds like someone else I know, ELZAR

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Sounds like someone else I know, ELZAR

Hey now, it's not my fault the N64 spoilt me on good games. Wanna play some body harvest with me Gui? (even though it's not even co-op)

 

[Hypertrooper]

I feel the same way!

You were great on the podcast btw.

Thanks. But you reverse roles. I am not gay, Sai-Kun is. Nice try anyway.

(I was pretty shy as non-native English speaker. Thanks to Tashi to get me into the discussion. He is a pretty good host)

 

[TheOddOne]

Thanks. But you reverse roles. I am not gay, Sai-Kun is. Nice try anyway.

(I was pretty shy as non-native English speaker. Thanks to Tashi to get me into the discussion. He is a pretty good host)

Whatever bro, I'm humping every post you make.

 

[Overdoziz]

Yeah, but you think everything is shitty.

That's some selective reading right there.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

That's some selective reading right there.

Not really.

 

[monome]

Yes.

They've been referred to as "Prmethean Knight" by both Frankie and Josh Holmes:

It is confirmed that they are called Promethean Crawler/Watcher/Knight and there is a secret behind them.

Thanks for clarifying.
Still, I hope Promethean is used in the context of those AI being warrior class AIs.
I don't think it's been stated in the books if Promethans used robots in combat in addtion to their suits and Ancillas.
I love fighting robots, and the Forerunners weapons are awesome.

EXCITE by trying to recompile the different connected dots between the books and the game reveal, yet very confused and not happily so.
Cryptum spoiled me, it was exactly what I didn't know I wanted from the Halo universe.

 

[Overdoziz]

Not really.

Really.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Really.

XBL live NAO!

Not really, I don't give particular attention to what you nor anybody likes or dislikes, it's all fine to me, nor does it affect me.

Now hug me.

 

[Overdoziz]

XBL live NAO!

Not really, I don't give particular attention to what you nor anybody likes or dislikes, it's all fine to me, nor does it effect me.

Now hug me.

No.

 

[TheOddOne]

Heckfu's voice sucks.

Spoiler

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[ElzarTheBam]

No.

HUG ME!

 

[squidhands]

You need to get this.

Yes, yes I do. Christmas List!

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BTW- have barely been able to keep up with the thread, so I don't know if this has been talked about yet: has anyone else noticed that we're not seeing our secondary weapon in the HUD? I've watched the multiplayer vid on Waypoint about a dozen times, and don't see it anywhere.

 

[Gui_PT]

Hey now, it's not my fault the N64 spoilt me on good games. Wanna play some body harvest with me Gui? (even though it's not even co-op)

No

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Yes, yes I do. Christmas List!

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BTW- have barely been able to keep up with the thread, so I don't know if this has been talked about yet: has anyone else noticed that we're not seeing our secondary weapon in the HUD? I've watched the multiplayer vid on Waypoint about a dozen times, and don't see it anywhere.

Good point, I don't see it either.

No

Well screw youuuuuu, I guess that just leaves me and Krow and a blue haired ninja to play with.

 

[Hey You]

Anyone see the details on ZombiU multiplayer? That sounds like a really fun version of Infection. I want to play it.

Also the game has no checkpoints and permadeath. If you die, you switch to being another survivor, and if you want your stuff back, you have to go find and kill your previous-now-a-zombie body.

Why does this game have to be exclusive ? With the Xbox Smart Glass, it could work.

We need Left 4 Dead 3 Valve.

 

[Gui_PT]

Why does this game have to be exclusive ?

We need Left 4 Dead 3 Valve.

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mi...ts-developers-working-on-left-4-dead-prequel/

 

[EvB]

Why does this game have to be exclusive ? With the Xbox Smart Glass, it could work.

We need Left 4 Dead 3 Valve.

Ubisoft have said that a ps3/360 version isn't ruled out.

 

[Arnie]

what am i reading

You're reading my opinion that, compared to past Halo titles, the UI looks shit.

 

[EvB]

You're reading my opinion that, compared to past Halo titles, the UI looks shit.

I thought that Reach's wasn't significantly different from an Halo game before it, just less blue

 

[Arnie]

I thought that Reach's wasn't significantly different from an Halo game before it, just less blue

I'm talking about Halo 4, not Reach. Reach's UI was excellent.

 

[EvB]

I see, isn't it a hard thing to judge without having used it, or are you one of those lucky swines who have got to play?

 

[Portugeezer]

I am happy about it. Metroid Prime and Halo were the two games which fascinated me with their enemy design. Both were the Science-fiction enemy type I always wanted to kill. They looked fearsome and still interesting.

Looks like Nintendo doesn't want to give me a Metroid game any time soon, this will do very nicely.

 

[ncsuDuncan]

Looks like Nintendo doesn't want to give me a Metroid game any time soon, this will do very nicely.

I wonder what happens if your gamertag is JUSTIN BAILEY.