Haha, just realisticfu. Maybe I am grumpy, super rainy here today and was a hair late for work.
Yeah...that's it.
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Haha, just realisticfu. Maybe I am grumpy, super rainy here today and was a hair late for work.
Yeah...that's it.
Bregmann Roche
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Or any one of the new juniors that HaloGAFclassic has launched a crusade against. If Halo 4 doesn't work in Tawpgun's Xbox we will know the truth.
To Any 343 Lurkers: please get back to work. You have like 3 months or something before the game has to go to cert. Guardian isn't going to create itself.
OverHeat
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Sure, Friend request sent.
you should live in florida, we have fucking bipolar weather, Ryaaan will tell you all about it
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Hmm, I'll have to get hands on. Sprint seems to make the game much faster though, you can sprint all the time.
:lol
Bregmann Roche
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Nice try Bonnie.
Actually, let's say Delta Unit Hinkle is Bonnie. A female wolf would be a nice addition to the pack!
Demoncarnotaur
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I will say, when the videos emerged of MLG players playing Halo 4 I thought that the player speed and jump height should be a pinch higher.
Cool, thanks!
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Cool, thanks!
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Yeah there is, it is subtle, but Nades in reach sometimes have a slight change on where they are supposse to fall finding their way onto a spartan. (it also happens with Plasma nades)
I even have a clip where I actually stuck a guy with a regular nade.
Im not sure how unlimited sprint is going to work with objective gametypes, capping a flag is going to be a big mess on small/medium size maps.
Steelyuhas
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Yeah if we're allowed to have opinions about what is fast and slow, I think the pace of gameplay is decent (certainly faster than Halo 3 and Reach), but the base movement speed is pretty slow in my opinion.
Only when I'm shooting at Ram.
Demoncarnotaur
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Does Neil Blomkamp's next movie Elysium have a Halo ring?
If FUD is a success give a Halo movie back to this man. Hell, do it even if it isn't a success.
If FUD is a success give a Halo movie back to this man. Hell, do it even if it isn't a success.
I'm enjoying it a lot. Matchmaking times seem to be shorter now so that's a plus. I do think there's one map on which the framerate is indeed terrible.
sluuurp
this is all stupid. If you agree with what the early players are posting, you say "hey, let 'em speak!" If you don't, you say "they're just being nice because they're getting to play early!" If your mind is THAT made up, just stop worrying about it until the game comes out. Try it, if you hate it don't buy it. Done.
In that case yes, I'm Bonnie, bow before me for I am your fearless Goddess muahahah.
Nah, I'm not cool enough to be said person.
ElzarTheBam
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Cool.
Out of Halo 4, looking forward to seeing more of this, and Del Toro's pacific rim.
Also maybe, the Man of Steele trailer/teaser
AllIsOneIsNone
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Halo 4, I can't waiiiiiit!
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
+1. We've all been going back and forth on the same things over and over, and it's pretty clear who stands where in regards to what we've seen of the game. We just need new information to discuss.
It's not about disagreeing or not believing that those players honestly felt that way. The point is that their experience is not only extremely limited, it's colored by the worlds largest rose-tinted glasses. I have no doubt that they truly feel Halo 4 is amazing. Maybe it is, but all I can do is compare it to things I liked and disliked about past Halo games and go from there.
What we can do is look at video we've gotten, which is completely objective, and compare it to video of past Halo games. If you look at a Reach video side-by-side with a Halo 4 video, there really isn't that much different. The player still moves pretty slow and utility weapons still take a long time to kill.
Granted, I haven't played the game, but at the same time, numbers don't lie. A 5-shot kill BR isn't very fast. A 5-shot kill DMR isn't very fast.
We've got people saying how amazing Halo 4 is, but then I watch the videos and I see some of the same issues, major ones, that plague Reach; slow gameplay.
Gunnerdude
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For those of you who like computer games, Steam Summer Sale starts today runs through the 22nd.
Totally off topic but I thought I'd throw it out there.
Keep those Halo 4 impressions coming, need to stay entertained at work.
runs through the 22nd.Totally off topic but I thought I'd throw it out there.
Keep those Halo 4 impressions coming, need to stay entertained at work.
The Wu has spoken.
Me too! Are you free Saturday night?
I don't agree. And I need to think why, but I know you're wrong.
If you're literally saying Halo 4 is going to be anywhere near the shitfest level of Halo: Reach, you're going to be very surprised haha.
What's different about Halo 4 from MLG Reach settings, aside from new weapons? Sure, the "feel" may be different, but when you get down to the nitty gritty details of how games actually play out, what's going to change?
Okay, lets say it's on Halo 3's level. IMO thats still shit. I'm tired of Halo games that force players to rely on team shot and completely hamstring the individual.
My one true hope for Halo 4 right now is that we can change movement and get a better strafe and increase weapon damage without destroying the sandbox.
Hypertrooper
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It is funny that everyone connects a ringworld with Halo and call it a Halo ring and not ringworld.
ArchedThunder
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Must know more...
thezerofire
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I'd say Halo 3 hamstringing the individual is stretching it. Reach does, certainly, but 3 let an individual do a lot more
What? I've been lonely so I'm just putting myself out there
R u a gurl?
Zoso Achilles
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I swear I get stuck by frag grenades more than anyone else who plays this game.
squidhands
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Don't know, the Camo AA isn't available in the E3 build.
Just spitballing ideas. Slow movement/quicker AA drain/longer reset timer, I'm not sure how else to balance out something like that. Another AA as a counter is not the correct answer to the problem.
Really? Completely objective? There's no context to keep in mind, no "this might be because the game isn't finished", no compression artifacts in video or audio that might change how people perceive what they're watching... NOTHING? It's COMPLETELY OBJECTIVE?
You and I live in different worlds.
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Wow. Not only do we live in different worlds, we want diametrically opposed things from our Halo. I like that the game rewards teamshooting. (I would argue, rather strongly even, that it does not FORCE the player to rely on it - I have seen plenty of backpackers win games for their team with no help. But I LIKE that all Halo games except the first one have rewarded team play.) Sounds like you might want to pick a different title.
ElzarTheBam
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I rage about them every single time.
GhaleonEB thanked you for this post.
Reach had slow movement and slow gunplay because of bloom, which is there now even with 85 percent bloom. So you're walking slower, jumping smaller distances and being forced to pace your shots.
Halo 4 is faster than Reach's movement, right? So that's one, if true, regardless of MLG settings. Two you've got a faster starting weapon than the DMR - the BR - and now gameplay is built around Sprint, rather than it being an Armor Ability. It's obvious watching the MLG E3 videos that gameplay is much faster; encounters were happening pretty frequently.
I don't know if this is what I'm trying to say, but it seems wrong to me to compare this to Reach in any negative way. There's more balance, more logical abilities, better map design from what we've seen and a focus on gunplay.
And yes, I don't like Halo 3. I believe Halo 4 will beat that, too, which isn't that hard IMO because a hitscan BR makes the experience miles better.
Keep your voice down, there are babies afoot.
Hypertrooper
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Ghal, please do it right:
2 users thanked Louis Wu for this useful post. GhaleonEB on 7/12/12(UTC), Hypertrooper on 7/12/12(UTC)
Edit.: Maybe useful for Mastrbiggy and his HBO coverage:
http://halo.xbox.com/blogs/post/2012/07/12/Halo-Partners-at-San-Diego-Comic-Con-International.aspx
To add: most of the video we get is from people who are playing for the first time, or close to. So even with the game not being done, still being polished and balanced and with people playing a game type with a slice of the sandbox for exhibition purposes, I find it hard to judge many things because people are still learning how it's intended to play.
There's a lot we can judge, but there's a pretty hefty list of caveats we need to attach.
Thanks. I was going to look up the correct nomenclature, but, well, Waypoint.
What video are you going to watch lol...
Default Reach with 100% bloom, 85% Bloom, MLG w/ bleed through and zero bloom?
You really make it hard for me to try and give a shit about your posts.
I mean, are you comparing a fucking 100% bloom DMR kill-time to the non-final-build 5 shot kill BR kill time? Because I'm pretty the BR is going to be loads faster and more consistent.
Are we talking about current MLG settings? Because that seems to reward the player pretty well for being a good shot considering how fast you can die in ZB gameplay. I don't want the game to be faster than MLG settings are. I want less inertia and less powerful grenades, and shots to matter; that's why MLG settings are the only way to play Reach.
I never said I didn't want to reward players for team shot; every game will always reward teamshot, but there's a balance that needs to be reached.
The fact that you say the first Halo game didn't reward teamplay is laughable. The sad truth is that "teamplay" has devolved into the most primitive example of it; teamshot. When you empower the individual, like Halo CE, the depth of teamplay exponentially increases. Just because you may not understand it or grasp it doesn't mean its not there.
And to everyone talking about the videos, I'm referring to ZB MLG games.
The existence of the Halo 1 Pistol would make me agree with Wu alone. Teamplay didn't really matter in Halo 1. You cannot make the individual be able to do everything by themselves and not have the emphasis on teamplay suffer.
Unfortunately, Reach got hamstringed by the Halo 1 Pistol as well.
I've not heard of them, a quick Google search isn't helping either. Anyone know who they are/what they do?
Like I said, just because you may not understand it or grasp it doesn't mean its not there.
And if you think that teamplay didn't matter in Halo CE, you have absolutely no understanding of the game.
Well, I doubt most of us want a faster game than Reach MLG settings are currently.
I know I don't; I just want it to be more balanced, non-nuke grenades, no crappy inertia, etc.
Spawn trapping 2v2 gameplay, hmmm...
I want the average kill speed to be close to or longer than Reach. I want the max kill speed to be faster.
Do you even realize how the spawn system works in Halo CE?
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