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[ViewtifulJC]

holy shit

did they dip their faces in acid?

Halo 4: Darkman edition

 

[Hypertrooper]

Cryptum and Primordium Spoiler:

What if

Spoiler

we meet Ancient Human on Requiem?

Not going to happen, just a thought.

 

[Noricart]

So, I noticed nobody is talking about the new Jackal design-

I like it. Looks more reptilian.

 

[Tawpgun]

By day, he's Claude Errera AKA Louis Wu. Casual Halo Player. Mastermind behind HBO. Huge Halo fan.

By night, he transforms into a dongmaster and runs all over kids in MLG.... he is...

Spoiler

credits to Risen for the joke

 

[Plywood]

I like it. Looks more reptilian.

Gears of War school of design. Just like the wretches, I mean grunts.

 

[Karl2177]

Ghaleon ships faster than Bungie confirmed.

 

[Tawpgun]

Gears of War school of design. Just like the wretches, I mean grunts.

This.

Seriously, grunts at least look similar. This Jackal turned from birdlike to something fished out of the Mariana Trench.

 

[Slaker117]

Woah, those Jackals look way different! Initial reaction is that I like the frail bird-like design much better. Gave the Covies more variety. These kind of just look like vague lizard monsters, though maybe it'll grow on me like Chief's new look.

EDIT: Actually, no, I don't think it will. They might as well be a completely new enemy type.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Cryptum and Primordium Spoiler:

What if

Spoiler

we meet Ancient Human on Requiem?

Not going to happen, just a thought.

I'm hoping something like this does happen and I wonder if a certain piece of concept art hints towards this..

I like it. Looks more reptilian.

I like it also, but I would have preferred a little more alien bird in the design.

Gears of War school of design. Just like the wretches, I mean grunts.

Its the neck, its too thick IMO, making it looks very new grunt/wretch-ish as well as the smaller eyes. I hope they messed with the color to give em a little speckling and variation so they aren't bland grey/brown.

 

[Akai__]

Cryptum and Primordium Spoiler:

What if

Spoiler

we meet Ancient Human on Requiem?

Not going to happen, just a thought.

Speaking of Primordium, I will get it tommorow. It has been finally released in Germany. Yeah, I could have read it on english, but I guess I would not understand everything perfectly. Wonders me, why they need so much time for a translation...

 

[a zoojoo]

So, HaloGAF, who's next? Any bets?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482878

kylej and Stinkles.

"Halo fan marries Cortana doll, California judge approves."
"New forum members are forced to have premium quality lap dances, police investigate the horrific hazing procedure."
"Obsessed Halo fan threatens to stop playing Reach because of lore continuity errors, Microsoft is investigating the case."
"Frank O’ Connor is tired of people streaking in front of his house, fires Halo array."
"Ex-writer and game designer David Ellis becomes an internet sensation, 1up and Giantbomb dedicate a whole day on the genre-defining meme."

Fixed it for you.

K I just signed up for HaloUnity. How do I create the HaloGAF group?

I added you to the "Group". There is no specific "community" on HaloUNITY yet. Last I heard from one of the admins, is that it's on the list to be reviewed/approved.

 

[User 73932]

Perhaps baffled was the wrong wording, but I was referring to my first sentence in that post. On its own merits, I was confused at its removal (apart from H4 sandbox "conflicts"). Its under-utilization should have been compared to its availability and accessibility, as others have mentioned. If that was done, I don't know.

Perhaps I'm just salty over it because it is one of my favorite Halo weapons to use...ever. It was new, balanced, took at least a little skill to use properly, versatile, and, in the right hands, quite precise. It's one of those weapons where I picked it up any chance I got because it was just so damn fun to use.

Isn't that the point of having different weapons? To facilitate fun?

There is a point when there is just too much to deal with, both as a designer and a player. I'm sure a lot of you will still feel the way you do now about the GL come launch, but I personally felt that even with the "small" selection of weapons in the build I played there wasn't anything lacking or missing. There was a weapon that soothed every single itch and then some. With all the new additions in terms of weapons and abilities in Halo 4 I'm not sure where the GL would fit...


EDIT: and you know that the GL is my favorite weapon in Halo Reach.

Whoa whoa whoa, LTTP. Is there a vid I can see?

Of the grenade, no. I asked Chris if I could film myself using it but he said not to. Technically it wasn't meant to be used. It doesn't even show up on the HUD. You have to listen closely for the grenade pick up sound.

I'm sure you can find the sniper and smg type weapon in some video. I was shot by them multiple times.

 

[Plywood]

So, HaloGAF, who's next? Any bets?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482878

I wanna be cynical but instead I'll just be jelly.

 

[The Librarian]

Got a little sidetracked and didn't watch Bravo's video until now.

"So at this point in the game it is 460 to 360, and I really didn't think there was any possible way we could lose this game, but...uh...yeah."

HaloGAF, fuck yeah.

 

[Noricart]

Gears of War school of design. Just like the wretches, I mean grunts.

This.

Seriously, grunts at least look similar. This Jackal turned from birdlike to something fished out of the Mariana Trench.

I like it also, but I would have preferred a little more alien bird in the design.

The thing about Gears of War enemies is that the are derivatives of the same species, the locust. The problem with the Covenant is that there are several different species within it, so each one should be different from one another, and stay true to the design intentions from Halo 1. That being said, I never got what the jackal was meant to imitate. Bird? Lizard? Both? Maybe it's why I like the new design, the intent was clear behind what it was meant to be; at least to me.

 

[User 73932]

Got a little sidetracked and didn't watch Bravo's video until now.

"So at this point in the game it is 460 to 360, and I really didn't think there was any possible way we could lose this game, but...uh...yeah."

HaloGAF, fuck yeah.

 

[Overdoziz]

I sometimes wish that Bungie made Halo 4 so we wouldn't have half as many changes simply because designers want to put their own stamp on it.

 

[Plywood]

The thing about Gears of War enemies is that the are derivatives of the same species, the locust. The problem with the Covenant is that there are several different species within it, so each one should be different from one another, and stay true to the design intentions from Halo 1. That being said, I never got what the jackal was meant to imitate. Bird? Lizard? Both? Maybe it's why I like the new design, the intent was clear behind what it was meant to be; at least to me.

Featherless bird mostly.

Kig-yar have features similar to birds of prey as well as reptiles. Their legs are sinewy and muscular, and are reverse-jointed in a similar fashion to birds. They have sharp claws on both hands and feet. Being carnivores, their sharp beaks are lined with rows of razor-sharp teeth; some have far more numerous teeth which bear a passing resemblance to baleen.

Kig-yar have extraordinary senses of sight, hearing, and smell. Male Kig-yar possess plumages of spiny quills at the back of the head and on the elbows; the color of this plumage indicates the Kig-yar's mood.[7] Females lack these quill plumages, instead having calloused plates at the forearms and the rear of the head.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Kig-yar#Anatomy_and_physiology

The main issue I have with the design is their beaks seem gone in H4.

inb4 subspecies, I can't buy that.

 

[Noricart]

I sometimes wish that Bungie made Halo 4 so we wouldn't have half as many changes simply because designers want to put their own stamp on it.

Reach would like to speak with you.

Featherless bird mostly.
inb4 subspecies, I can't buy that.

The article makes things clearer now.

 

[Voltron64]

I sometimes wish that Bungie made Halo 4 so we wouldn't have half as many changes simply because designers want to put their own stamp on it.

Reach will always be there for you.

Got a little sidetracked and didn't watch Bravo's video until now.

"So at this point in the game it is 460 to 360, and I really didn't think there was any possible way we could lose this game, but...uh...yeah."

HaloGAF, fuck yeah.

 

[a zoojoo]

I sometimes wish that Bungie made Halo 4 so we wouldn't have half as many changes simply because designers want to put their own stamp on it.

Seriously, the same people who created bullshit mechanics such as bloom, created jetpack and armor lock, that's who you would want making Halo 4?

Why do all the Covies look fucking terrible in Halo 4? This looks nothing like a Jackal! It looks like Godzilla in the 1998 American film.

Where is the beak?

holy shit.

 

[ArchedThunder]

So, I noticed nobody is talking about the new Jackal design-

I really hope we get some direct feed shots of these, possibly in this weeks Bulletin? They seem damned scary looking, but my big complaint is their eyes seem very small compared to past Jackal designs. It helped make them look more alien. But otherwise, I like em, at least from what I can tell.

Why do all the Covies look fucking terrible in Halo 4? This looks nothing like a Jackal! It looks like Godzilla in the 1998 American film.

Where is the beak?

 

[.shin]

Where is the beak?

In the acid they dipped them in.

 

[Hydranockz]

I sometimes wish that Bungie made Halo 4 so we wouldn't have half as many changes simply because designers want to put their own stamp on it.

"Let's call him Overdoze"

 

[Tawpgun]

Guys, just like Halo 4, jackals have evolved

into a whole new species.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Seriously, the same people who created bullshit mechanics such as bloom, created jetpack and armor lock, that's who you would want making Halo 4?

Actually people have been begging for Jetpacks since Halo 2 Elites came flying around. Bungie's Jetpack fails because the core gameplay in Reach was bad for it.

http://secretvortex.com/godzilla/98goz.jpg[IMG]
holy shit.[/QUOTE]

LOL! They really do look like Godzilla!

 

[FyreWulff]

Why do all the Covies look fucking terrible in Halo 4? This looks nothing like a Jackal! It looks like Godzilla in the 1998 American film.

Where is the beak?

Can't unsee

edit: TIL that the name of that version is "Zilla"

 

[Overdoziz]

I said sometimes. And I'm mostly talking about visual stuff. The Grunts, Elites and Jackals all look like the result of cross-species mating with the dudes from Gears. Chief looks terrible also. And if Bungie made the UI it most likely would've been a continuation of what we have in Reach instead of something made for a card game. I often feel like some changes are made just because the 343 employees want to differentiate them selves from Bungie and that doesn't always work out great in my opinion.

 

[daedalius]

So, I noticed nobody is talking about the new Jackal design-

I really hope we get some direct feed shots of these, possibly in this weeks Bulletin? They seem damned scary looking, but my big complaint is their eyes seem very small compared to past Jackal designs. It helped make them look more alien. But otherwise, I like em, at least from what I can tell.

Also,

Thanks Ghaleon!

Holy shit awesome.

Kig-yar reptilian bird thing confirmed.

Why do all the Covies look fucking terrible in Halo 4? This looks nothing like a Jackal! It looks like Godzilla in the 1998 American film.

Where is the beak?

I think your face looks terrible.

Frankie! You and your team need to get your shit together with these designs ffs.

What the fuck does this even mean.

 

[.shin]

Frankie! You and your team need to get your shit together with these designs ffs.

 

[Fuchsdh]

Why do all the Covies look fucking terrible in Halo 4? This looks nothing like a Jackal! It looks like Godzilla in the 1998 American film.

Where is the beak?

I tend to agree. Decent designs on their own, but terrible as essentially reimagining the Covenant we know and love.

The thing I liked about the Jackals was they felt like proto-bird dinosaurs with the toothed beak and quills. Now they're just reptilian.

 

[a zoojoo]

Actually people have been begging for Jetpacks since Halo 2 Elites came flying around. Bungie's Jetpack fails because the core gameplay in Reach was bad for it.

IMO, The Reach jetpack negates the entire point of map design and completely disrupts map flow. I wish they would've limited it a little more.

 

[AceLegacy]

So, HaloGAF, who's next? Any bets?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482878

My money is on

Spoiler

Ace

and Sai.

So, I noticed nobody is talking about the new Jackal design

Edit: Beaten

 

[Hypertrooper]

I'm hoping something like this does happen and I wonder if a certain piece of concept art hints towards this..

Which one? The book covers?

On the other hand I saw the concept arts of Halo 4 again and after seeing how 343i accomplished to nail the stuff by some pieces, I cannot wait to see these two pieces in the game.

 

[Woorloog]

I sometimes wish that Bungie made Halo 4 so we wouldn't have half as many changes simply because designers want to put their own stamp on it.

If Bungie were doing Halo 4, i wouldn't buy it. No matter what they did.
Reach destroyed my faith in Bungie completly.
Well, almost completly... I'll give Destiny a small chance. Not really interesting in it though.
I'll probably abandon consoles in a couple of years, move completly to PC.

 

[Noricart]

As long as we are complaining about designs, I don't like that the Elites seem to have their lower torso's exposed, (there seems to be no reasoning behind it.) and that grunts no longer have masks, (which is a small complaint, it's just odd to see the full face of a grunt, whose shape also seems a wee bit off from past halos)

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Featherless bird mostly.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Kig-yar#Anatomy_and_physiology

The main issue I have with the design is their beaks seem gone in H4.

inb4 subspecies, I can't buy that.

Well, to be fair, not all Jackal designs had a beak, but they always apeared bird-like, in part due to thier posture as well as their large eyes.

Old concept:

Halo 1:

Halo 2:

I feel enlarging the eyes and reducing the neck thickness would make the design looks perfect, and a lot more birdlike.

Why do all the Covies look fucking terrible in Halo 4? This looks nothing like a Jackal! It looks like Godzilla in the 1998 American film.

Where is the beak?

Oh god, I see it.

 

[daedalius]

I said sometimes. And I'm mostly talking about visual stuff. The Grunts, Elites and Jackals all look like the result of cross-species mating with the dudes from Gears. Chief looks terrible also. And if Bungie made the UI it most likely would've been a continuation of what we have in Reach instead of something made for a card game. I often feel like some changes are made just because the 343 employees want to differentiate them selves from Bungie and that doesn't always work out great in my opinion.

They change it, you clowns bitch.

They don't change it, you bitch because its 'omg you just took this straight from Reach!'

A whole new art team wants to redesign shit, holy fucking captain obvious.

 

[User 73932]

If Bungie were doing Halo 4, i wouldn't buy it. No matter what they did.
Reach destroyed my faith in Bungie completly.
Well, almost completly... I'll give Destiny a small chance. Not really interesting in it though.
I'll probably abandon consoles in a couple of years, move completly to PC.

I'm sorry for you loss. A misstep in an otherwise solid game doesn't negate everything else they have done and will continue to do.

 

[heckfu]

Frankie! You and your team need to get your shit together with these designs ffs.

I don't think you could've been any more rude or ridiculous with this post.

 

[ZalinKrow]

Yeah, the jackals really do look like Godzilla. I couldn't think of what it reminded me of, but I think I was thinking of the version of Godzilla in that cartoon...

I can see I was already beaten even with this version of him too haha.

 

[B wzy]

I'm cool with the more alien and adult theme that the artists went with. Tired of cuddly english speaking grunts.

 

[.shin]

I don't think you could've been any more rude or ridiculous with this post.

That was the point.

 

[Bregmann Roche]

If the pro-pipe (the one truly great addition Reach brought) has been canned because it was objectively underused then why on earth is the hologram brought back verbatim and unchanged?

Can Biggy or Domino confirm that Hologram is the same? "I thought I read somewhere" that your reticle now turns red when you aim at a hologram. If an enemies HUD behaves the same way it would if it was me in front of him instead of my hologram, I am much more likely to take Hologram.

That was the point.

Shame on you.

 

[Blueblur1]

I said sometimes. And I'm mostly talking about visual stuff. The Grunts, Elites and Jackals all look like the result of cross-species mating with the dudes from Gears. Chief looks terrible also. And if Bungie made the UI it most likely would've been a continuation of what we have in Reach instead of something made for a card game. I often feel like some changes are made just because the 343 employees want to differentiate them selves from Bungie and that doesn't always work out great in my opinion.

Halo 5 will be a return to form, bro. Just be patient.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Which one? The book covers?

On the other hand I saw the concept arts of Halo 4 again and after seeing how 343i accomplished to nail the stuff by some pieces, I cannot wait to see these two pieces in the game.

This piece, from "The Commissioning".

Also, agreed, those 2 are my favorite pieces of art we they have shown so far.

 

[Hydranockz]

That was the point.

Good job buddy. Now, do you think Frankie manages the art team? I know Mister Chief is amazing.

 

[Plywood]

They change it, you clowns bitch.

They don't change it, you bitch because its 'omg you just took this straight from Reach!'

A whole new art team wants to redesign shit, holy fucking captain obvious.

 

[ArchedThunder]

They change it, you clowns bitch.

They don't change it, you bitch because its 'omg you just took this straight from Reach!'

A whole new art team wants to redesign shit, holy fucking captain obvious.

I never bitch about consistency.

 

[Woorloog]

I'm sorry for you loss. A misstep in an otherwise solid game doesn't negate everything else they have done and will continue to do.

Yeah, well, Bioware managed to that as well (though more completly). ME3 ending destroyed the whole series in my eyes. And i'm not touching any future titles by them (CnC Generals 2 being exception but only because the dev team was just rebranded as "BioWare").
I'm still giving Destiny a small chance. BioWare, none.