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[ArchedThunder]

And 2 games later we still get AR starts on Highlands.
Bungie has always been absolutely horrible at combining gametypes with maps. And Objective gametypes haven't been decent since Halo 2.

As I say that I get ShWATguns in Team SWAT.
Shaking my head Bungie.

ShWATguns was the best though.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Google Docs massacre.

Create google docs account open for anyone to edit with the noble goal of creating a unified list of questions simply formatted so that 343 if they wanted to could easily and quickly see what the community wanted to hear about...

3...2...1... trolls attack it.

 

[dangerbyrnes]

big img dump. just took these, was reeeeeaaaaaallllllyyyy bored.

Weapon symbols.

armor abilities

medals

kill, and ordinance medal

railgun kill medal

vehicle kill, and lazer kill medal

assist

kill and killing spree

killjoy

snipe, invincible

killing spree again

kill, headshot spree?, dont know

headshot, double kill

headshot spree, dont know, bead down

vehicle kill, kill, headcase?

snapshot, snipe

rocket kill

etc.

 

[nillapuddin]

Looks like it might be, but the top one still looks like it has an extra back piece and an extra front piece. Maybe it is the same gun and they just altered the design or something.

actually, i want to believe its a smg, i thought it at first also, idk why im trying to shoot you down.

i hope we are right, smg would be cool

big img dump

love the medals, really interested what AA's will turn out to look like

 

[Rand0m TAG]

Whose that

 

[ViewtifulJC]

I really like all the Halo 4 medals and how they appear on screen. Look like they added some damn color to them.

Now if we can only get rid of that text

 

[Swarmerr]

Ughhhh why does everyone tease... I want my infoz now lol.

 

[Aggrotek]

Whose that

Bravo. He commentated on the RTX games, in case you dunno him.

I'm glad it's Bravo. Guy's youtube channel is the best around, hands down.

That, and he is extremely well versed and very competent.

 

[Tashi]

I'm glad it's Bravo. Guy's youtube channel is the best around, hands down.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

I'm glad it's Bravo. Guy's youtube channel is the best around, hands down.

Gotta say i do like Bravo that u4ix guy isnt to bad either.

 

[Rand0m TAG]

Bravo. He commentated on the RTX games, in case you dunno him.

I didn't see bravos name lol. Didn't recognize him by Andy

 

[Domino Theory]

This is Bravo's second time being invited up to 343. Lucky guy.

 

[G17]

I'm glad it's Bravo. Guy's youtube channel is the best around, hands down.

Still think Nak3d Eli has the best channel especially with his speed runs, challenges, and community nights but Bravo's is fantastic as well.

 

[NobleGundam]

I'm glad it's Bravo. Guy's youtube channel is the best around, hands down.

Same here. Idk why some dislike his commentary. It's good. We need more of Nexy!

 

[Overdoziz]

I really like all the Halo 4 medals and how they appear on screen. Look like they added some damn color to them.

Now if we can only get rid of that text

Wish they weren't transparent and so toned down. The medals in previous Halos really stood out and were easy to recognize.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Wish they weren't transparent and so toned down. The medals in previous Halos really stood out and were easy to recognize.

Much better in the recent build, Hated the first set.

 

[Vire]

Wish they weren't transparent and so toned down. The medals in previous Halos really stood out and were easy to recognize.

I like it being transparent. Makes it look like they are part of the HUD UI.

 

[NobleGundam]

Wish they weren't transparent and so toned down. The medals in previous Halos really stood out and were easy to recognize.

It appears the theme of the medals transparent detail is based on the Infinity's Virtual Simulation.

 

[Woorloog]

Where is my EMP medal? Must see!

 

[Shake Appeal]

I hope the Promethean handgun plays something like Half-Life 2's magnum.

 

[dangerbyrnes]

Where is my EMP medal? Must see!

didn't see it once in the video. unsc weapons don't EMP? well... not anymore

will probably see it in the promethean/covenant weapons video.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

So, I snapped a few more pics of the Pro-Pistol from the HD UNSC video.. I do believe this is what I mistook as an SMG before.. Ah well.

I still say it reminds me of this:

You hated Armor Lock because it's fucking bullshit.

That's what you were screaming, admit it. You'd have meticulously dropped someone's shields, or waltzed around a corner with the rocket (read: portable nuke) launcher, and just as you let that killing round fly... bzzzap. Nope. And what flew from your mouth?

"Fucking bullshit."

The problem with Armor Lock was complicated; a lot of factors were at play. People labelled it a "pause button" for combat, a get out of jail card for bad play, and so on and so forth, and I don't really want to get into all the reasons it sucked. But an important part of the frustration it induced was that the pause button it hammered down was suddenly and disturbingly unexpected.

There is a narrative in your head in the kinds of situations described above, drilled into you by hundreds if not thousands of hours of play (hint: it's "I'm winning this fight"), and Armor Lock just rips up the script. You knew what should have happened, and yet something outside of your control, something barely inside the other player's control ("press button to not die"), cancelled it in an instant. No fair. Bullshit.

Sure, we want games to be unpredictable to a certain extent. But we want that unpredictability to be introduced by human action. We want someone to strafe a way we didn't expect, and then pull out a perfect four-shot with their shield already down while we fumbled for the headshot. We want them to skip a grenade so sweetly into our teeth that we shake our head in admiration, not rage. We want them to take off our head with a no-scope when we so nearly had them, damn it ... so why are we smiling? Because those deaths were our fault, and theirs. That's what we tell ourselves -- that if we could do it again we could do something better, crouch that little bit sooner, pull up our reticle that little bit faster... next time, next time. Respawn, fail again, fail better.

Armor Lock is from that dark hell of gameplay where it seems like there wasn't anything to be done. Sure, we could have found out from our teammates that our enemy had Armor Lock at the press of his thumb, but we still have to play along, still have to shoot him knowing that... bzzzap. Nope. We did everything right, and we still didn't get the appropriate result, because there was a joker in the pack, and we got trumped.

Now I want to paint a nightmare scenario. This is scaremongering, of course, but... Halo 4 potentially has one hundred jokers in its pack. One hundred little Armor Locks hidden away in some frightful combination of weapon and armor and loadout and circumstances and whatever else. One hundred little moments of unconquerable frustration -- none of them nearly as extreme or blatantly 'bullshit' as Armor Lock, obviously, but still irritating in aggregate -- when someone does something you couldn't predict unless you treat every encounter as open and unknowable. Unless you go into every fight with your shoulders shrugged, expecting anything. Meanwhile, you don't know how many rounds are in his gun, how many grenades he can throw, how long it takes his shields to recharge, how he's even going to move. Often you won't know what rabbit he can pull out of the hat next, because it didn't come from the field of play; it came from the start menu. You'll do your best, but quite often you will lose your life, your streak, your game when the die your opponent rolls comes up with seven pips.

Unpredictable opponents are fun; unpredictable systems are not. There's a reason chess is regarded as the purest game of skill: all the pieces are showing. In Halo, you should be able, ideally, to approach a situation with your eyes open and your wits about you and your thumbs twitching, and be confident you'll be beaten only by a better player, and not trumped by some shark repellent spray from their unknowable utility belt. Figuratively speaking.

I want so desperately to be wrong.

Very good, well thought out post. I am not opposed to the changes Halo 4 is bringing in, at least from what I know, but I have to agree with much of this.

BTW, if you want hi-quality version of UNSC weapons video

its on the press site

http://press.xbox360.com/product.asp?p=51

Thanks!

Cool, looking forward to whatever we may see.

 

[CyReN]

I'm glad it's Bravo. Guy's youtube channel is the best around, hands down.

This is Bravo's second time being invited up to 343. Lucky guy.

He isn't the only one..

Spoiler

no it isn't me, don't pm me either<3

 

[nillapuddin]

Thanks!

no problem spreading the HD goodess

Shame that the video uploaded to the Press site is the one with the god awful music.

Was hoping the weapon sound effects one would be on there.

maybe if we ask nicely?

 

[Vire]

Shame that the video uploaded to the Press site is the one with the god awful music.

Was hoping the weapon sound effects one would be on there.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

I like it being transparent. Makes it look like they are part of the HUD UI.

That's what I like about 'em, like they're in the Spartan's helmet instead of inexplicable floating medals.

You'd think those Infinity programmers would know better then to put the text in the middle of his vision, though. That's gotta be unsafe.

 

[Gabotron ES]

I really like all the Halo 4 medals and how they appear on screen. Look like they added some damn color to them.

Now if we can only get rid of that text

Aggred 100%

I have a huge wall of text about H4's UI which I'll try to post later.

 

[Pop]

I really like all the Halo 4 medals and how they appear on screen. Look like they added some damn color to them.

Now if we can only get rid of that text

Oh come on like that text is going to be a problem. Have you never played COD, don't even recognize the text when you're in game. This text talk is getting rather old.

 

[Computron]

Higher Def:

 

[dangerbyrnes]

as others have said, i hope the Promethean pistol is like a mauler equivalent. that was a really unique sidearm type weapon.

^ pretty big blast and recoil makes me think it is.

Considering it has 10 shots in the clip, I don't think it will be.

could be weaker, but it doesn't seem to have very good range.

I personally enjoyed the Mauler.

it's confirmed then?

 

[Steelyuhas]

I'm glad it's Bravo. Guy's youtube channel is the best around, hands down.

Yeah Bravo seems like good people, knows what he's talking about.

Spoiler

Except that time when he walked up to someone playing, told them the AR he just picked up shot "paper bullets" and the guy proceeding to tear a players a new asshole with the AR not 5 seconds later. Gave me a good laugh.

This is Bravo's second time being invited up to 343. Lucky guy.

And you've played the game at like 12 different events.

Much better in the recent build, Hated the first set.

Yeah they are better, but I still think they are pretty poor. They are so easily recognizable in Reach, I and I'm still not getting that at all from the new set. I'll get used to it though, not the end of the world.

as others have said, i hope the Promethean pistol is like a mauler equivalent. that was a really unique sidearm type weapon.

Considering it has 10 shots in the clip, I don't think it will be.

 

[Stinkles]

as others have said, i hope the Promethean pistol is like a mauler equivalent. that was a really unique sidearm type weapon.

^ pretty big blast and recoil makes me think it is.




could be weaker, but it doesn't seem the have very good range.

I personally enjoyed the Mauler.

 

[B wzy]

as others have said, i hope the Promethean pistol is like a mauler equivalent. that was a really unique sidearm type weapon.

^ pretty big blast and recoil makes me think it is.




could be weaker, but it doesn't seem the have very good range.

It has 10 rounds though. Seems a little excessive for a CQB weapon.

 

[FyreWulff]

Man, how different Halo 3 could have turned out if you could have actually spawned with any of the new Brute weapons. edit: or the Carbine.

I personally enjoyed the Mauler.

I like both Maulers.

vrrrrRRRTT BAWSHOOM

 

[Vire]

I personally enjoyed the Mauler.

I liked Maulers except for the fact that you could do the one shot then melee trick.

It turned out, they were more effective (broken) as a single wielded weapon than dual.

 

[dangerbyrnes]

It has 10 rounds though. Seems a little excessive for a CQB weapon.

it could burst fire. like it shoots 5 rounds at once. two direct hits to kill. very slow firing rate, slow reload.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Idiots have left the googledoc it seems, hopefully this thing might get fleshed out a bit more.

Waypoint don't like the idea.

 

[Aggrotek]

Man, how different Halo 3 could have turned out if you could have actually spawned with any of the new Brute weapons. edit: or the Carbine.



I like both Maulers.

vrrrrRRRTT BAWSHOOM

YESSSSSSSS

Idiots have left the googledoc it seems, hopefully this thing might get fleshed out a bit more.

Waypoint don't like the idea.

Does this surprise you?

 

[Hypertrooper]

This is Bravo's second time being invited up to 343. Lucky guy.

Jellis is not even the word to describe how I feel right now. Okay it is the word how I feel right now.

 

[The Librarian]

I hope the Promethean handgun plays something like Half-Life 2's magnum.

That would be great, but it'd probably have to be a power weapon, haha.

Edit: Wait, are you talking about the .357? Oh I'm confused now.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

YESSSSSSSS



Does this surprise you?

Not at all really, Just figured they might show some type of community comradery and get in on it. Eh

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Not at all really, Just figured they might show some type of community comradery and get in on it. Eh

Oh the hypocrisy ;]

 

[Woorloog]

didn't see it once in the video. unsc weapons don't EMP? well... not anymore

will probably see it in the promethean/covenant weapons video.

Yeah... still, i wish 343i could release images of all the medals.
Would like to know how the new EMP compares to the Reach's. If it is better, would like to have it in my avatar.

EDIT wonder how many avatar fads one can put to one avatar and still have a sensible avatar.

 

[Aggrotek]

Yeah... still, i wish 343i could release images of all the medals.
Would like to know how the new EMP compares to the Reach's. If it is better, would like to have it in my avatar.

EDIT wonder how many avatar fads one can put to one avatar and still have a sensible avatar.

Emp-ninja-chicken?

 

[thezerofire]

I liked Maulers except for the fact that you could do the one shot then melee trick.

It turned out, they were more effective (broken) as a single wielded weapon than dual.

Wait, do you like or not like the mauler? Because the mauler was all about the one shot + melee. That was like the weapon's whole purpose

 

[higherARC05]

The last bulletin was excellent.

And Frankie, your writing gave me inspiration, confidence, excitement, and all things good in what's in store you guys at 343Industries have for us. You all will bring millions of us pure joy and countless memorable life moments. Can't wait

 

[Woorloog]

Emp-ninja-chicken?

The logo with the sword is actually the Capellan Confederation's logo.
Also it is a dao sword, ie Chinese sword.
And the bird's a pigeon.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=40837622&postcount=4810

 

[Vire]

Wait, do you like or not like the mauler? Because the mauler was all about the one shot + melee. That was like the weapon's whole purpose

Well, I mean I liked the sound effects of the gun and the design, but it basically encouraged campers.

I can't count the amount of times I got one shot + melee'd around a corner on Guardian from a guy hiding behind a wall.

The way I used it was fine though.

 

[Aggrotek]

The logo with the sword is actually the Capellan Confederation's logo.
Also it is a dao sword, ie Chinese sword.
And the bird's a pigeon.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=40837622&postcount=4810

Damn, only 1/3 correct. My world is in shattered pieces.


Also, could anyone maybe cut the Pikachu out of my avatar? I am not liking the background anymore...

 

[GhaleonEB]

I have to say, for all my concerns about Multiplayer, hot damn are the visuals good. Every time there's an image dump - even small clipped images - it really highlights how well 343 has nailed the look, some design elements aside. Loving the bold colors, unobscured by grain filters.