Amazing Mic
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Halo |OT8| A Salt on the Control Room
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MrGreencastle
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Has anyone at PAX seen Frank? He's like an enigma this year.
nillapuddin
Member
wait, isnt that in Reach?
On an honest level, if flags and kills contributed to an overall point cap, it would essentially end griefing, atleast if its a massacre it will end promptly~
No that's in Assassin's Creed.
Zeouterlimits
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Well he showed up and provided Tequila before disappearing, didn't he?
Must be afraid of a salty love knife.
Does that sound perverted to anyone else? Ooops.
Dammit, you got me.
Devolution
Member
Was wondering yeah. heh. np.
How much does the flag capper get? We gonna go back to betrayals again right before you cap?
wooooooooo
Oh noes, 343 pandering to everyone now..even the blind! </faketroll>
Read this for a reminder on proper spoiler tagging. Don't ruin shit for others.
What I'm thinking about now for flag games is when someone not very good grabs it by mistake and isnt smart enough to figure to get in my vehicle or go a certain route. What about those times when it's super tough to get into their base and one person finally scrapes by and snags the flag and throws it out immediately dies? That strategy will no longer work and has little to do with teamwork. It super fucking hard to make teamwork work with randoms anyhow. Man, not being able to drop the flag sounds so bad. Teamwork you say? Not when I go in alone.
What I'm thinking about now for flag games is when someone not very good grabs it by mistake and isnt smart enough to figure to get in my vehicle or go a certain route. What about those times when it's super tough to get into their base and one person finally scrapes by and snags the flag and throws it out immediately dies? That strategy will no longer work and has little to do with teamwork. It super fucking hard to make teamwork work with randoms anyhow. Man, not being able to drop the flag sounds so bad. Teamwork you say? Not when I go in alone.
Zeouterlimits
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nillapuddin
Member
dont know why that was a necessary troll, I know that exists in Reach, I meant was that the point spread in Reach
50 for a flag, 1 for a Kill
(screw it, google..)
okay so it is, thats to many potential kills in my opinion.
@devo
flag cap = 100 points
but in Halo 4 flag (so far) there isnt an point cap
Usually, I try not to get mad about these things. I mean, its just a video game after all. But Kevin's comments that heckfu paraphrased upset me. The comments show that they're clearly more concerned about constantly showering the player with nebulous points than they are with keeping the core dynamics of Halo intact. I'm hoping for a larger explanation but at this point I have no interest in CTF at all nor will I be touching whatever half-assed Objectives playlist they devise. As far as Blueblur1 is concerned, they have accomplished the opposite of what they set out to do by making these changes.
And to answer your question, I was 17 when I started playing Halo.
Bregmann Roche
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Devolution
Member
lol waypoint forums. A thread just for that? Hahahaha.
Der Flatulator
Member
Just thinking; Why should K/D be the global measure for skill? It's obviously flawed. Yeah it's simple, but surely there's something relatively simple (not abstract like the BPR) that actually represents a little less broken numeric interpretation of skill...
I was thinking of some kind of system which isolates Objective and Slayer and K/D is only a factor in Slayer. Something like this:
Skill points = [Objective] W/L * [Slayer] (K+10*W)/(D+10*L)
e.g. Obj W/L = 1.4,
Slayer, Kills: 2,000, Deaths: 1,250
Slayer, Wins: 75, Losses: 60
= 1.4 * (2,000+750)/(1,250+600)
= 1.4 * 2,750/1850
SkP = 2.08
I dunno...
I was thinking of some kind of system which isolates Objective and Slayer and K/D is only a factor in Slayer. Something like this:
Skill points = [Objective] W/L * [Slayer] (K+10*W)/(D+10*L)
e.g. Obj W/L = 1.4,
Slayer, Kills: 2,000, Deaths: 1,250
Slayer, Wins: 75, Losses: 60
= 1.4 * (2,000+750)/(1,250+600)
= 1.4 * 2,750/1850
SkP = 2.08
I dunno...
nillapuddin
Member
Guy finally posted the Incinerator Cannon footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1UamvWT22tg#t=220s
this skips straight to the part, havent watched the rest yet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1UamvWT22tg#t=220s
this skips straight to the part, havent watched the rest yet
MrGreencastle
Member
Totally creepy, for sure. GAF has been an an enigma at PAX for me, too. So much so that I just assume every bearded person is Heckfu. Is there still a Halo free play going on? Where is it?
Amazing Mic
Neo Member
keep the kill medals for building exp
add a button flag-pickup
make k/d stats slayer exclusive
I'd be far more tempted to go into objective lone-wolf w/ settings like that.
add a button flag-pickup
make k/d stats slayer exclusive
I'd be far more tempted to go into objective lone-wolf w/ settings like that.
We need more weapons videos man!
User 73932
Banned
Dat mocap.
Penis goes boom.
Those particles are breathtaking. Between that and the Eli video of all of the weapons firing across the battlefield, dem fucking particles are definitely the star of the show.
dangerbyrnes
Member
damn, one shot and then it needs to be reloaded. looks like it's got some huge splash damage. he just fired in that spartans general direction, and the spartan melts.
Fuckin got em
Pop
Member
I could just avoided the situation if I could have been able to drop the flag. I usually don't grab the flag anyway but when I do I like the ability to drop it.
Ya it would. See if I drop the flag the noob stops trying to kill me and grabs his precious flag. Let's see the reactions when you accidentally run to close to the flag and your spartan picks it up. Have fun with your low clip blooming pistol. Auto pick-up FTL
mhi
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Seems like that's the Forerunner power weapon mantra -- the Scattershot seems to be the exception now that we've seen the Incinerator and Binary Rifle. Slow, low ammo, super powerful. It'll be interesting to see how it all pans out on release.
I do hope, though, that this doesn't mean the Fuel Rod makes it into matchmaking in that same ordnance role, at least not anywhere near its current state. That thing would need to be hit about a dozen times with the nerf bat before it was suitable.
Just blindly coming up with a formula isn't going to get you far...
NullPointer
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Der Flatulator
Member
Well I was just trying to promote some kind of discussion on a system that would actually work...
Wrote it up in LaTeX to make it a bit easier to read.
PAX: Halo 4 Updates Grifball and Oddball - http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/02/pax-halo-4-updates-grifball-and-oddball
thanks jumper
thanks jumper
Zeouterlimits
Member
You've gotta account for assists as well. Folks that play support roles have been screwed over far too many times. A system that integrates (k + a) instead of just k would be better.
Devin Olsen
Member
You guys ready to get weird tonight?
HeckFu I love you.
Also if anyone is near Bellvue come drinking with us!
Text me... (should i post my number on the internet....) hmm...
edit: thanks Devo
Quote this for fun times.
if you call I literally will not answer.
Also no i do not like grapes, you nerds.
HeckFu I love you.
Also if anyone is near Bellvue come drinking with us!
Text me... (should i post my number on the internet....) hmm...
edit: thanks Devo
Quote this for fun times.
if you call I literally will not answer.
Also no i do not like grapes, you nerds.
nillapuddin
Member
I completely agree with you, not necessarily on the calculations, but when you think about it, K/D really is a pretty brutish statistic to overall judge a player on
Any player who is predominantly an objective carrier (im not) would back me on this
or a driver, whatever
I think it would be great to incorporate wins, losses, assists and objective scoring into an encompassing player statistic
Pop
Member
Just one reason out of many not to even go near flag now. Sigh...
Amazing Mic
Neo Member
Just scrap k/d for objective. I'm okay w/ the +10 for kills for exp purposes- but k/d is misleading even in pure objective games and removing it helps thin out people wanting to exploit it.
The Librarian
Banned
Dani, context. I highlighted that by accident. :/
Der Flatulator
Member
Vire
Member
Video of CTF Demo at Panel:
http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/09/01/witness-your-first-flagssassination-halo-4-panel-demo
Shows sentry animation briefly.
http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/09/01/witness-your-first-flagssassination-halo-4-panel-demo
Shows sentry animation briefly.
Devolution
Member
I agree. Something like this then: (b is betrayals)
Why do betrayals need to even be in there?
Devin Olsen
Member
OMG ME TOO
That's a Glasslands spoiler. I thought you've read that already.
Der Flatulator
Member
They don't. Just thought it balanced the equation, as (k+a)/d will almost always be > 1
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