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Halo |OT8| A Salt on the Control Room

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bobs...onGaf

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Homeboyd said:
Yeah, this would be awesome.

JAVELIN'D

As others have mentioned, the non-ability to drop the flag seems like it would suck (considering the accidental pick ups that basically lead to losing your weapons, esp. if you had rockets or some other power weapon), but the waypoint is the bigger issue for me. I LOVED going for sneaky steals/caps. Clearing out the base, stealing the flag and trying to sneak out/kill enemies as they try to find you was always a lot of fun for me. I could request help from my teammates to secure the safe sneak out and it felt great to take the long route back to my base and cap the flag.

Now as soon as you grab the flag you have to book it straight back home as the whole team will be on you the second you touch it. I get the intent and it may work out in the games as I haven't played any Halo 4 yet, I just prefer my old playstyle in CTF matches. I was never great at juggling (and still preferred sneaking the flag anyways) so I'm really not sure how this will work out for players like myself. As with everything else, I'm still more than happy to give these new things a try before I judge, but I'm hoping the option to alt these things is fairly simple if it does play out like most of us think it will.
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I am going to miss being really sneaky with the flag, the indicator above your head if you take the flag is pretty weird.

From the sounds of it a lot of the nuance is being taken away, a more simplified CTF is probably more attractive to the masses, but :(
 
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ElzarTheBam

Member
bobs99 ... said:
I am going to miss being really sneaky with the flag, the indicator above your head if you take the flag is pretty weird.

From the sounds of it a lot of the nuance is being taken away, a more simplified CTF is probably more attractive to the masses, but :(
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Hey, you never came back on!

You didn't miss much though, played my last MM game in reach tonight. Customs from now on! And other games till 4.
 
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Ryaaan14

Banned
Vire said:
The sense of entitlement here is pretty embarrassing. They don't owe anyone any explanation to be honest. They make the changes they make because they feel it'll improve the game somehow.

They put out a product and whether you like it or not is up for debate, but that's an entirely different point.

Would it be nice if they did so in a bulletin or something? Absolutely, but it's hardly necessary.
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I am giving a real answer to his question. Do I think they OWE us that? Of course not.

Shitty analogy time.

You spend 10 years in an office with a boss you love. They have Casual Fridays for the office. They give you a great holiday bonus every year. And are always accomodating to your needs. Well, one day that boss leaves and another boss comes in. This boss is very proficient, but takes away Casual Fridays, cuts your Holiday bonus, and is overall a lot more strict than your last boss.

Do you have any right to criticize them? Of course not. But it is pretty damn hard to just take it without any rhyme or reason. Yeah they're working hard to make a game. So did Bungie. Me typing this much about it really makes it sound like it bothers me more than it actually does, but my god man, I miss my Halo hype. I really do miss it, and I feel like it's gone with this new trilogy, or at least taken a much smaller form.
 
FUNKNOWN iXi

FUNKNOWN iXi

Member
Homeboyd said:
K-Frank needs a GAF account.
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He should call himself The Franklinator with this avatar:

Charizard_Avatar_by_Dann_The_Yoshi.png
 
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Mister Negative

Member
Vire said:
The sense of entitlement here is pretty embarrassing. They don't owe anyone any explanation to be honest. They make the changes they make because they feel it'll improve the game somehow.

They put out a product and whether you like it or not is up for debate, but that's an entirely different point.

Would it be nice if they did so in a bulletin or something? Absolutely, but it's hardly necessary.

Sometimes you guys come off as petulant crying children.
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I think it's within my rights as a consumer to want to know the reasons behind the changes made to the franchise I love. Because if there are shitty reasons behind the changes, i might want to spend my 60 dollars elsewhere
 
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bobs...onGaf

Member
Hideo Kojima Introspective: Past, Present, Future of METAL GEAR Panel is out MGS HaloGaf (i.e. you Xand, Gazzawa, Nillapudding and Beckx!) Its the Pax panel he hosted, should be interesting to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smKmhJngzNo


ElzarTheBam said:
Hey, you never came back on!

You didn't miss much though, played my last MM game in reach tonight. Customs from now on! And other games till 4.
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Ah yeah I pretty much wanted to head off around that time, had played a few Reach games solo at that point and was actually getting burnt out on it. I know you have Uni so I think you left early right? I ended up talking to Xand and ACM after but didnt play anything.

We should totally play matchmaking, but like 4v4 stuff, customs are ok, but I kind of want to play traditional stuff alongside the more wacky stuff, just because I kinda wanna actually give Reach a bit of time before 4 comes out as I will never touch it again then. :p
 
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Tha Robbertster

Member
bobs99 ... said:
Ah yeah I pretty much wanted to head off around that time, had played a few Reach games solo at that point and was actually getting burnt out on it. I know you have Uni so I think you left early right? I ended up talking to Xand and ACM after but didnt play anything.

We should totally play matchmaking, but like 4v4 stuff, customs are ok, but I kind of want to play traditional stuff alongside the more wacky stuff, just because I kinda wanna actually give Reach a bit of time before 4 comes out as I will never touch it again then. :p
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MLG customs or matchmaking mlg with 8 people is always awesome. Too bad most of the bad kids I play with don't like MLG :p

I played some MLG alone today and it was horrible. Everyone would vote for CTF despite there was no communication at all on my team which is one of the most important things in CTF. And then there are the quiters. It completely ruins the game.
 
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ElzarTheBam

Member
bobs99 ... said:
Hideo Kojima Introspective: Past, Present, Future of METAL GEAR Panel is out MGS HaloGaf (i.e. you Xand, Gazzawa, Nillapudding and Beckx!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smKmhJngzNo

Ah yeah I pretty much wanted to head off around that time, had played a few Reach games solo at that point and was actually getting burnt out on it. I know you have Uni so I think you left early right? I ended up talking to Xand and ACM after but didnt play anything.

We should totally play matchmaking, but like 4v4 stuff, customs are ok, but I kind of want to play traditional stuff alongside the more wacky stuff, just because I kinda wanna actually give Reach a bit of time before 4 comes out as I will never touch it again then. :p
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I am loling at this.

Yes, have to wake up at 6 am. I'm totally up for 4v4 customs anytime though. Need a break from Halo MM, before 4 sucks my spare time away.

Hydranockz said:
What a load of shite! Didn't you say you were done a few days ago? :lol
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I honestly forgot about it, till Krow and Calum reminded me mid game. It was quite funny, couldn't exactly quit out. :p
 
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Kuroyume

Banned
Did anyone go in any big killsteaks in any of the videos because it seems you die pretty eaily in this game. I wonder if its the promethean vision making people more noticeable targets. I'm okay with quicker kill times it's just weird to see this in a Halo game.
 
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NOKYARD

Member
Blueblur1 said:
Nice post by Nokyard regarding the new scoring system.
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Even included a possible fix.
With a simple pass from spawn to goal, rinse, repeat, a game could potentially be over in a matter of seconds... A bomb explosion killing everyone on the field would fix the above scenario (keeping the gameplay fast) without going back to round based play.
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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Kuroyume said:
Did anyone go in any big killsteaks in any of the videos because it seems you die pretty eaily in this game. I wonder if its the promethean vision making people more noticeable targets. I'm okay with quicker kill times it's just weird to see this in a Halo game.
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They're killing sprees bro.

I like that I never have to start with a shitty gun again in Halo. It's pretty awesome. Also, I'mtrying to think of ways to get an H4 edge at MLG Dallas. Probably gonna stick to the DMR since it's most fresh in my playstyle. Watch tons of film and get tips from Domino/Mastrbiggy and others who have had a lot of time with the game.
 
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GhaleonEB

Member
NOKYARD said:
Even included a possible fix.
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I think the problem is they switched it from being a bomb to an Oddball. Not sure they even have the option of round-based play, including adding an explosion. Quite the oversight given they created a dedicated game mode for Grifball; it's got to be fixable, right?
 
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Computron

Member
Wahrer Machine said:
In theory, could the tackle assassination result in some accidental suicides? Say, if you tackle a dude only to have both of you fall off a cliff, etc. I wonder if 343's taken this into consideration.
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They talk about this a lot in one of the networking presentations from Bungie. They definitely take it into consideration, especially since Reach's beta.
 
Pop

Pop

Member
EuropeOG said:
And you have a magnum, to me that is the most important bit.
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Ya that blooming low clip pistol, totally going to save you from a precision weapon. Not to mention all 8 enemy players will know exactly where you're at. At all times, goodbye sneaky flag caps.

Edit: Are some of you guys really trying to justify not being able to drop the flag? Come on Son
 
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IHaveIce

Banned
CyReN said:
Kevin Grace (Franchise Manager) and Kynan Pearson (Lead Multiplayer Level Designer) Interview at Pax.
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ugh. I understand somehow their decision, but it should be changeable for customs. again no excuses.

They should have asked more questions.



And yeah guys.. I never should have enrolled in the Fall Update program, I won't say anything further than that my xbox doesn't work anymore for now.
Contacted the support, we will see what will happen

Wahrer Machine said:
In theory, could the tackle assassination result in some accidental suicides? Say, if you tackle a dude only to have both of you fall off a cliff, etc. I wonder if 343's taken this into consideration.
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In this case the assassination will probably be cancelled and/or speed up. Isn't it the same in Reach?
 
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Shadders

Member
Wahrer Machine said:
In theory, could the tackle assassination result in some accidental suicides? Say, if you tackle a dude only to have both of you fall off a cliff, etc. I wonder if 343's taken this into consideration.
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I imagine the code that chooses which assassination animation gets played would check the surrounding terrain to avoid things like this and other visual bugs where animations clip with scenery etc.
 
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Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I got an idea for oddball.

Guy is coming at you guns blazing, you're screwed with no teammates around. What do you do?


Throw the oddball at the enemy forcing him to hold the ball while you commence donging with your primary weapon and nades.
 
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dangerbyrnes

Member
Wahrer Machine said:
In theory, could the tackle assassination result in some accidental suicides? Say, if you tackle a dude only to have both of you fall off a cliff, etc. I wonder if 343's taken this into consideration.
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i always loved the "this is sparta" assasination elites could do. especially when they kick someone off the top of the spire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW-wdy0ilLQ&feature=related

would be hilarious to see you falling through the air and still doing the animation on the other guy.
 
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Defect

Member
IHaveIce said:
And yeah guys.. I never should have enrolled in the Fall Update program, I won't say anything further than that my xbox doesn't work anymore for now.
Contacted the support, we will see what will happen
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Wont turn on? Freezes? Im in the beta also and Ive been having some console lag.

Top of the page...So about that grass.
 
Portugeezer

Portugeezer

Member
Pop said:
Ya that blooming low clip pistol, totally going to save you from a precision weapon. Not to mention all 8 enemy players will know exactly where you're at. At all times, goodbye sneaky flag caps.

Edit: Are some of you guys really trying to justify not being able to drop the flag? Come on Son
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I'm not justifying anything as I haven't played it. I also don't think it's a big deal, son.
 
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