NobleGundam
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Lol so good. *save to fileshare*
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Halo |OT8| A Salt on the Control Room
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Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I don't think there is room in Kyle's fileshare for more ass. Kat has a shrine there.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Wait, I just realized something....
There are no death screams in multiplayer.
The hell?
There are no death screams in multiplayer.
The hell?
Pop
Member
Not enough bandwidth for that.
User 73706
Banned
In Halo 3 there were ~7 per species per gender total. It's one of those things that probably doesn't need attention until very late into development.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRvV8FN034I#t=44m10
So what does he mean by "customized presentation layer for each player"?
Ah, I see. Thanks.
So what does he mean by "customized presentation layer for each player"?
Ah, I see. Thanks.
Vire
Member
Depending on what you are doing in a CTF game, (carrying the flag, driving the carrier, or assisting). The game will relay different information through the HUD. (Icons, Text etc)
nillapuddin
Member
A Hero Awakes finally on press site 
647.7MB
http://press.xbox360.com/product.asp?p=51
(downloading now)
647.7MB
http://press.xbox360.com/product.asp?p=51
(downloading now)
Vire
Member
A Hero Awakes finally on press site
647.7MB
http://press.xbox360.com/product.asp?p=51
(downloading now)
WMV only? :/
Such a shitty format. Still yay.
Hydranockz
Member
KyleJ, guess how much white text appears in the middle of your screen during the Grifball gameplay?
None. Also nothing like "You are carrying the ball" or "Nice Catch". That favouritism
thezerofire
Banned
I still don't understand the motivation behind the CTF changes. They said they wanted the flag carrier to be "The Ultimate Badass," so why did they take away almost all of their options? You can't be sneaky with the flag, you can kind of defend yourself but not with a primary weapon and heaven help you if you had rockets, you can't do any flag running routes that require you to toss the flag to a teammate.
There used to be tradeoffs when running a flag. Juggling was really effective on a small map or if you only needed to go a short distance. If you tried juggling on a BTB map it was really easy for the other team to see where you are, catch up, and kill you. On the other hand you were much more likely to get farther with a flag when you don't juggle it since the other team needs to look for you. Now there is no choice, and everyone knows where you are all the time.
There used to be tradeoffs when running a flag. Juggling was really effective on a small map or if you only needed to go a short distance. If you tried juggling on a BTB map it was really easy for the other team to see where you are, catch up, and kill you. On the other hand you were much more likely to get farther with a flag when you don't juggle it since the other team needs to look for you. Now there is no choice, and everyone knows where you are all the time.
You could actually do that in CE, and it's quite amusing if you pull it off. However, since you could get out of automatically picking up the oddball (or the flag) in that game, it wasn't that big of a deal. Hopefully the same can be said of H4.
MrGreencastle
Member
I don't have people's contact info, but it was nice meeting you all at PAX, and especially thanks for letting me in on the line, that was some brotherly love. I can't wait for this game to come out.
My new favorite junior. Your avatar is my favorite album.
My new favorite junior. Your avatar is my favorite album.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Played Halo 4. Feels like Halo. My team sucked though.
Bumper Jumper was immediately familiar to me.
I'll post more eventually. Pics too. Awesome meeting most of HaloGaf! Also awesome meeting some 343 folk.
Bumper Jumper was immediately familiar to me.
I'll post more eventually. Pics too. Awesome meeting most of HaloGaf! Also awesome meeting some 343 folk.
Canon reasons. Obviously.
I dunno why, but I love the term "donging."
Ehhhh I don't think so. I think in the broad sense they do but when it comes to the little details they're just like everyone else. They won't know until they play it extensively.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Is this real Fu or doppelganger Fu?
MrGreencastle
Member
Man I completely didn't even consider taking a picture with him. I so should have.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Hopefully this time I'll be thar.
They sure are the vocal crowd then
Also - I am glad Griffball gets it's own option so we won't have to deal with stat boosters in the game type.
I hope so, everyone else loved meeting me!
Orochinagis
Member
Thank you for the recopilation, must see all of this after dinner
Haven't been on the thread in days. Here's my quick take on my experience with Halo 4: It feels like Halo and it feels much funner than Reach. Love the BR on Regicide, and love the DMR on the bigger map.
Spartan Ops was cool, but short. It was only one mission of the five you would get in a week according to the 343 guy at the booth. Heroic seemed pretty easy. It was nice to battle some new enemies, and the Carbine is beastly against the Crawlers.
Really enjoyed my time with the game this weekend and thoroughly enjoyed the lovefest that was the panel. Halo 4 is going to be awesome!
Spartan Ops was cool, but short. It was only one mission of the five you would get in a week according to the 343 guy at the booth. Heroic seemed pretty easy. It was nice to battle some new enemies, and the Carbine is beastly against the Crawlers.
Really enjoyed my time with the game this weekend and thoroughly enjoyed the lovefest that was the panel. Halo 4 is going to be awesome!
Ended not playing. Got to talk to the founder of one of my favorite devs along the way and the line was closed for the booth already by the time I got back. Bumped into Wu and almost accidentally photo bombed him. glad that pax is over, at any rate.
Also that omegathon ending was complete bullshit.
Also that omegathon ending was complete bullshit.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
As a lurker, you were a newb. As a Junior, you were a newb. As a Member, you are a newb.
..but I like ya-
-sometimes..
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Lol, I may remove your beard and secure it to my face, then my power will be unimaginable.
You still have some of the love stuck in your beard... Sorry.
Srsly, though, it was great to meet a bunch of you.
HiredN00bs
Member
Excellent posting. Intelligent, thoughtful.
User 73932
Banned
No you.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Husslefu. Play shitty on Live, goto real event and crap on unsuspecting players.
I'm not sure I understand how people do NOT get the motivation behind the CTF changes. There have been multiple statements from 343 regarding H4 being made in a way that makes the game "more accessible" or "more approachable". Those trade-offs you speak of on when to run the flag in a sneaky way, when to juggle, when to stop and help, when to drop and try to kill guys before running it further, etc. make the in game strategy deeper. There are people right here on this forum with good skill levels, that to this day have no idea the appropriate times to do the above.
343 has looked at the game type and made changes that definitely make the game more approachable. They have distilled the game play to knowing when to pull the flag, and team work needed to cap it. The number of layers are reduced, thus increasing the ease at which people will enter the game, and have FUN. I don't like the change, and I think it takes away a nuanced game play that was incredible fun for competitive folks. That is NOT to say I won't have fun with this new game type. I think there will be tons of fun to be had.
I like the fact that they aren't afraid to make changes, I just wish the changes were more balanced, or better implemented. There has been so much commentary on wishing they would release information as to the "why's". That shouldn't even be a question, you already have the answer... and they don't owe justification beyond, "because we feel like it's fun", nor do they need to justify any other decisions.
All that above may sound a bit wishy-washy, but it's not... I don't like the change, but understand why it was made. It just feels like another thing added that is half-way done.
Automatic Pick-Up
Not being able to drop, coupled with the way point
Pistol with stupid bloom and very little ammo
The above can be serious problems. While auto pick up stops the problem of wanting to pick up the objective, but picking up a weapon instead and with multiple control schemes makes it a universal way of picking it up; it creates problems all it's own with picking up the objective, even when you don't want to. There will most definitely be times this happens, and it will suck.
Not being able to drop, coupled with the way point goes hand in hand with the terri-bad bloom on the pistol. Sure, you move at good speed, but now an entire team knows where you are, and you have no choice about that... oh, and while you have a pistol, it's a sucky alternative because you have bloom with a short ammo supply. When you are playing highly skilled teams, you are not the ultimate bad ass, you are the ultimate sitting duck.
And all of the above says nothing about perhaps the worst offender this will create... the new objective holding when uneven teams are matched is going to be killer. Remember running around Asylum with the other team's flag trying to get beat downs? Now I can shoot you too, I don't even have to be close to you to kill you, oh and I can move as fast as you.
Can you imagine the Zealot flag spawn trap with the ability to both shoot AND assassinate while moving quickly?
Get out - the change is a good intention that will have bad results on game play unless there is something changed from the build seen. Again, this is not saying it couldn't be fun... particularly at first; but allow the ability to drop the flag, and no way point while flag is in possession at a minimum.
On it's surface, the change definitely makes the game type more approachable, but they better make dang sure match making parameters are tight, otherwise whatever list it's in will only be popular for the length of time it takes some good players to get bored.
Edited to say:
Another thing that would be a way to modify one of the problems would be an armor modification that removes the way point while running the flag - or perhaps gives another objective minded boost. It would fit and would give a true objective role on the team. It would likely somewhat address the auto pick up, at least for the initial pick up in the enemy base, in that the objective player would be a bit more intentional about being there.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
It's the beard, not you... it has a personality all it's own.
xxjuicesxx
Member
meating.
Poker Face
Member
walshy's video makes the sentry look useless. wooohooo
now just hoping regen field is shitty as well...and dexterity gets removed.
now just hoping regen field is shitty as well...and dexterity gets removed.
Hydranockz
Member
PAX was cool I guess but aren't we forgetting the megaton from today?
No white text in the middle of the screen in Grifball!
No white text in the middle of the screen in Grifball!
No white text in customs does not equal no white text in match making. Cautiously optimistic... which is to say, slightly pessimistic.
I feel like a broken record at this point on this subject so I reckon this'll be the last time I say it, but it's so unnoticeable.
Like...very unnoticeable.
Zoso Achilles
Member
I noticed that after you pointed it out and it makes me excited that there may be a toggle after all.
OR
That feature is only for grifball trolololol
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I can see how that would be the case, at a certain point I stopped noticing it while watching these videos. In fact, I started wondering what medals the person was getting, even with the text and announcer going off.
There's so much shit going on it doesn't even register, and I wasn't even playing.
I agree with this mostly, I'll give it a shot when it comes out but my whole way of playing will change from the sounds of it. If it works out the way it does I will avoid the flag like a plague and just focus on slaying. Having a weakness of all the things you listed turn me off from wanting to attempt picking up the flag. This isn't a fear of failing with the flag, watching over my k/d but the risk isn't worth the reward for me to give me such a disadvantage.
With that too, from Halo 2 to Reach my favorite gametype in each of those has been CTF in 4v4. Going to be very weird for me.
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