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[2 Minutes Turkish]

Yeah, no.

LT Grenades
LB Jump
RB Melee
RT Guns
X Armor Ability
Y Swap Weapons
B Action/Reload
A Switch Grenades

Since you're here, can you PLEASE confirm a normal layout where B is Melee and RB or X are reload?

 

[neoism]

Just got an email from Amazon saying they expect Reach to ship September 7th.

I hope so, that's Bungie's month!

 

[Spasm]

Just got an email from Amazon saying they expect Reach to ship September 7th.



Retail guesstimate or inside info?

Sept 3rd for me.

And thank GOD Bumper Jumper's survived intact. QQ jetpack tho.

 

[Kibbles]

Just got an email from Amazon saying they expect Reach to ship September 7th.



Retail guesstimate or inside info?

Seems odd that they would send you an email with a guestimate. It sounds legit, maybe it's the date going out with all the new CE and LE info that's coming (/shown in leaked BB ad).

Early September ftw.

 

[taylor910]

"Estimated Arrival Date for Halo Reach: September 14 - September 20"

Did anyone else get this from amazon?

EDIT: nvm

 

[GhaleonEB]

I hope so, that's Bungie's month!

I just realized how perfect Reach releasing on the 7th would be.

Though it sounds like they're just guessing.

 

[AwesomeSyrup]

Yeah, no.

LT Grenades
LB Jump
RB Melee
RT Guns
X Armor Ability
Y Swap Weapons
B Action/Reload
A Switch Grenades

 

[Game2Death]

Am I like the only one that just plays all games with default controls and just gets used to them? I've never changed them. :lol

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

Is it true that we're getting a Noble 6 Sculpture with our Legendary Edition?

So awesome if true.

Will need to pre-order both Regular and Legendary then.

 

[subrock]

Just got an email from Amazon saying they expect Reach to ship September 7th.

Retail guesstimate or inside info?

sounds like a great way to start the school year :lol :lol

 

[Schmitty]

Am I like the only one that just plays all games with default controls and just gets used to them? I've never changed them. :lol

Same for me.

 

[Tashi]

Hahahha yea. I say it all the time and I'll say it again. REAL MEN PLAY DEFAULT

Anywho, IGN 3 Red Lights Podcast is up. According to the description, they discuss Reach. Hosted by Daemon Hatfield (not really a Halo fan) and includes Hilary Goldstein (gave Halo 3 a 9.5), Charles Onyett (Knows some Halo) and Ryan Geddes (Knows a decent amount of Halo). I wish Erik Brudvig was on the show, he's definitely one of the bigger Halo fans at IGN.

Talk starts from about 2:20 - 20:00

I've only skimmed to get the times, I can't speak to the quality of the conversation.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1085294p1.html

 

[AllIsOneIsNone]

Armor ability has to be a bumper/trigger because you need to hold on to it (sprint for example), which you wouldn't be able to do if you are trying to aim while using it.

 

[AwesomeSyrup]

Hahahha yea. I say it all the time and I'll say it again. REAL MEN PLAY DEFAULT

Anywho, IGN 3 Red Lights Podcast is up. According to the description, they discuss Reach. Hosted by Daemon Hatfield (not really a Halo fan) and includes Hilary Goldstein (gave Halo 3 a 9.5), Charles Onyett (Knows some Halo) and Ryan Geddes (Knows a decent amount of Halo). I wish Erik Brudvig was on the show, he's definitely one of the bigger Halo fans at IGN.

Talk starts from about 2:20 - 20:00

I've only skimmed to get the times, I can't speak to the quality of the conversation.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1085294p1.html

But you can't jump and aim! Actually, I'm not gonna question you, I've seen videos. :lol

 

[Spasm]

Amazon search:

 

[feel]

n/m

I thought I was the only one. So many times I accidentally go into scope, then hit the stick to get out of it, only I've been shot so I end up putting myself back in. Repeat a couple times and I'm confused and dead. :lol

Yeah, that's exactly me too. :lol :lol

 

[Pappasman]

That's why Walshy gave us the claw.

I wonder if Walshy still uses the claw.

 

[Schmitty]

Amazon search:

I think we can assume for now that retailers are just guessing. Can we please just wait for an official announcement?

 

[Louis Wu]

Wow, I didn't know there were this many Bumper Jumper guys here lol. Where are my default guys at?? :lol

Screw that default crap.

Southpaw/Southpaw/Inverted - 4 lyfe

:lol :lol

 

[EazyB]

Screw that default crap.

Southpaw/Southpaw/Inverted - 4 lyfe

:lol :lol

Do you also hold the controller upside down?

Yeah, that's exactly me too. :lol :lol

If I get too excited when sniping I'll accidentally zoom out of scope from time to time.

 

[big ander]

Screw that default crap.

Southpaw/Southpaw/Inverted - 4 lyfe

:lol :lol

Play using that with your face, and you could test Campaign Easy for Bungie.

 

[Spasm]

Screw that default crap.

Southpaw/Southpaw/Inverted - 4 lyfe

:lol :lol

What have you done!?

Spoiler

Inverted for lyfe!

 

[Stinkles]

Screw that default crap.

Southpaw/Southpaw/Inverted - 4 lyfe

:lol :lol

Did you just divide your controller by zero?

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

I'll be so devastated if there's no layout that has B as Melee.

Probably the most insane decision I've ever seen. Has the potential to ruin the game for me. It's that insane a decision.

No really.

 

[CrazedArabMan]

Hahahha yea. I say it all the time and I'll say it again. REAL MEN PLAY DEFAULT

 

[Shishka]

Screw that default crap.

Southpaw/Southpaw/Inverted - 4 lyfe

:lol :lol

You are a mutant.

I'll be so devastated if there's no layout that has B as Melee.

Probably the most insane decision I've ever seen. Has the potential to ruin the game for me. It's that insane a decision.

No really.

It gun b k

 

[Domino Theory]

Screw that default crap.

Southpaw/Southpaw/Inverted - 4 lyfe

:lol :lol

You play with your feet or something?

 

[EazyB]

I'll be so devastated if there's no layout that has B as Melee.

Probably the most insane decision I've ever seen. Has the potential to ruin the game for me. It's that insane a decision.

No really.

How do you turn this thing off?

Oh, I see, right here.

/ignore

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

You are a mutant.



It gun b k

Gun b k as in get over it?

or

We have you covered, we have a proper layout for the people who are used to a layout they've been using for 9 years?

Please be the latter.

How do you turn this thing off?

Oh, I see, right here.

/ignore

Yes, because god forbid they use logic instead of having the two most used buttons in the ENTIRE games history right behind each other on the shoulder of the controller.

It's a decision that defies common logic, I'm sorry you can't see that.

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

How do you turn this thing off?

Oh, I see, right here.

/ignore

:lol

 

[Tashi]

Probably the latter bro.

 

[Louis Wu]

Man, you guys are all so mean.

(I play with two hands and my ear.)

 

[feel]

Gun b k as in get over it?

or

We have you covered, we have a proper layout for the people who are used to a layout they've been using for 9 years?

Yes.

 

[JohnIIVII]

Hahahha yea. I say it all the time and I'll say it again. REAL MEN PLAY DEFAULT

QFT

 

[Ajemsuhgao]

Yes, because god forbid they use logic instead of having the two most used buttons in the ENTIRE games history right behind each other on the shoulder of the controller.

It's a decision that defies common logic, I'm sorry you can't see that.

You can now easily aim and melee. And even if you play with JUST your index fingers on the top of the controller, you can't shoot AND melee at the same time anyway. The fact that melee was moved to RB is probably what has me most excited about the new control layout.

 

[Major Williams]

Man, you guys are all so mean.

(I play with two hands and my ear.)

You a lefty? I am too, but couldn't get the hang of southpaw. Normal became much easier to switch with other people on LAN battles back in Halo 1/2 days too. So I had to learn.

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

It's not like I'm the only person who feels this way.

While you're getting used to the big changes in Halo: Reach, you'll also want to pay close attention to the controller layout diagram in the options menu. Think you know how to play Halo? Well, not anymore. The most dramatic change is that the B button no longer controls melee attacks. It switches between grenades now. The left bumper now controls your armor abilities and the right bumper melees. Since there's no dual-wielding in Halo: Reach, the X button handles reloading, and the right and left triggers fire guns and toss grenades respectively. For longtime Halo players used to the standard controller layout, this will take a ton of getting used to.

It's pretty clear it's a bizarre decision to say the least.

Grenade switch is rarely if EVER used. Leaving it to rot on LB or RB is where it should be, not given prime real estate on the face.

 

[Shishka]

(I play with two hands and my ear.)

(He bangs his head against the controller)

 

[Ajemsuhgao]

It's not like I'm the only person who feels this way.



It's pretty clear it's a bizarre decision to say the least.

Grenade switch is rarely if EVER used. Leaving it to rot on LB or RB is where it should be, not given prime real estate on the face.

You play weird. It took me an hour, if that, to get used to the X to RB switch for reloading after the jump from Halo 2 to Halo 3. It should not take "a long time" to get used to getting used to a better setup for melee.

 

[GhaleonEB]

It's not like I'm the only person who feels this way.



It's pretty clear it's a bizarre decision to say the least.

Grenade switch is rarely if EVER used. Leaving it to rot on LB or RB is where it should be, not given prime real estate on the face.

Aye. Fundamentally strange decision. As long as there are other, classic Halo options, it's not an issue though. (And I'm sure there will be.)

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

You play weird. It took me an hour, if that, to get used to the X to RB switch for reloading after the jump from Halo 2 to Halo 3. It should not take "a long time" to get used to getting used to a better setup for melee.

Settign reload to RB isn't that out of the ordinary either though.

Reload is at best, 4th in the pecking order of most important buttons being used.

Not to mention Gears of War made it feel natural as hell anyway with it's Active reload. This is just wrong. Plain wrong.

Aye. Fundamentally strange decision. As long as there are other, classic Halo options, it's not an issue though. (And I'm sure there will be.)

Didn't think I could be the only reasonable person in here who realised what a mistake it is.

But someone posted a 'Recon' layout which seemed to match Halo 3's layout which is perfect. If that's in, I'm sweet.

I now it sounds like a massive rant/whine/whinge whatever you wanna call it, but this is the game I'm looking forward to the most this year, and for a long time to come, and the last thing I need the game to be potentially ruined by a decision that serves no purpose other than to give people a bit of a shock.

 

[op_ivy]

I thought I was the only one. So many times I accidentally go into scope, then hit the stick to get out of it, only I've been shot so I end up putting myself back in. Repeat a couple times and I'm confused and dead. :lol

i usually experience it when scoped in and pulling the trigger. all of a sudden i'm zoomed out and the target, if they lived, has escaped a 2nd shot

 

[Ajemsuhgao]

Settign reload to RB isn't that out of the ordinary either though.

Reload is at best, 4th in the pecking order of most important buttons being used.

Not to mention Gears of War made it feel natural as hell anyway with it's Active reload. This is just wrong. Plain wrong.

Being able to actually aim with ease while meleeing is wrong? :lol

 

[Toddler]

It's not like I'm the only person who feels this way.



It's pretty clear it's a bizarre decision to say the least.

Grenade switch is rarely if EVER used. Leaving it to rot on LB or RB is where it should be, not given prime real estate on the face.

I can get used to anything, but it would rock to let players choose their own button placement.

 

[Stinkles]

It's not like I'm the only person who feels this way.



It's pretty clear it's a bizarre decision to say the least.

Grenade switch is rarely if EVER used. Leaving it to rot on LB or RB is where it should be, not given prime real estate on the face.

I

a) Switch grenades a LOT strategically. I mean, all the time.
b) Think of LB as a prime position.

 

[Ajemsuhgao]

I

a) Switch grenades a LOT strategically. I mean, all the time.
b) Think of LB as a prime position.

Exactly. I ALWAYS switch to plasma/spike grenades as soon as I pick them up, and often switch between grenades depending on the situation.

 

[Sai-kun]

I can't believe we're down to just 11 days. I remember counting down from 60-ish. Oh man, oh man. I am so unbelievably hyped for this. AND IT'S JUST THE BETA. Oh god.

 

[Spasm]

Grenade switch is rarely if EVER used. Leaving it to rot on LB or RB is where it should be, not given prime real estate on the face.

I understand your pain*, but this is just crazy talk! RB and LB are Boardwalk and Park Place. The face buttons are the 4 railroads.

Also, it's been said that Bumper Jumper was very nearly the default layout for Halo 3, but it was too much of a departure... Maybe the same thing will happen with Reach.


*I had to skip Test Drive Unlimited cause there was no control option to use the right-stick for throttle/brake. I'm almost afraid to ask if TDU2 will repeat this travesty.

 

[Sanic]

+1 for those who get used to the default controls. I'll get used to whatever changes they've made.

 

[feel]

It's not like I'm the only person who feels this way.



It's pretty clear it's a bizarre decision to say the least.

Grenade switch is rarely if EVER used. Leaving it to rot on LB or RB is where it should be, not given prime real estate on the face.

In Halo, anything that doesn't require me to let go of the sticks in the middle of a fight, is what I consider "prime real estate".

But I'm gonna try Reach Default for a bit, maybe I'll get used to jumping with A again, in order to be able to use every AA properly.