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Halo: Reach |OT3| This Thread is Not a Natural Formation
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Mizzou Gaming
Member
A friend of mine bought REACH recently and the first time we played he mentioned how shocked he was that he didn't have to download an update/patch the first time he fired up the game.
I hadn't even thought about it until he mentioned it but in this day and age that's pretty impressive especially since REACH boasts one of the most active online communities in the business. As a matter of fact it goes beyond impressive and is teetering on the edge of impossible so I was thinking maybe BUNGIE implemented a way to patch things without having to have it certified by MS.
I know very little about these sort of things so I thought I'd ask you guys. I know they can update playlists and whatnot but can BUNGIE update more significant things behind the scenes as well
I hadn't even thought about it until he mentioned it but in this day and age that's pretty impressive especially since REACH boasts one of the most active online communities in the business. As a matter of fact it goes beyond impressive and is teetering on the edge of impossible so I was thinking maybe BUNGIE implemented a way to patch things without having to have it certified by MS.
I know very little about these sort of things so I thought I'd ask you guys. I know they can update playlists and whatnot but can BUNGIE update more significant things behind the scenes as well
Major Williams
Member
No worries mate haha.O D I N said:
After all, you have the name of one of my cats, so you can't be that bad of a guy.
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ZombieFred
Unconfirmed Member
So are there other fellow junior members here, who have recently joined, around the UK/Europe? It be good to try and arrange a few games we could have some good times during the week. Normally I am going to miss the chance to play with you guys over at the Unites States due, to our time difference through out the weekday (allthough weekend will be a different matter) so it be nice to get a few people around this part of the globe that have a similar time zone that's best for us.
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ZombieFred
Unconfirmed Member
MrBig said:
Thanks for the information there, MrBig
I'll keep a mental note to myself.bobs...onGaf
Member
MrBig said:
Hmm thats interesting, I never noticed the Concussion Rifle changing.
ZombieFred - Im from the UK and I think the late start of HaloGaf customs is what kind of puts me off them. If enough UK Gaf are up for it perhaps we could start customs earlier? Of course any Americans who are on early enough would be free to join, but as it stands its not the easiest time to play.
I have a love/ hate relation with Reach... after playing it non stop for the last week I have started to lose interest.
Anyone up for Halo 3?
Sikamikanico
#1 Dad
I'm from the UK, feel free to add me. Just let me know who you are first!
In other news, I'm playing Reach with my missus, and this is her first FPS. She's got movement down, but panics when driving or when enemies run at her. Her aiming is a little slow, but she's getting there. I just hope she doesn't get frustrated and quit in rage.
Fingers crossed!!
Just let me know who you are first!In other news, I'm playing Reach with my missus, and this is her first FPS. She's got movement down, but panics when driving or when enemies run at her. Her aiming is a little slow, but she's getting there. I just hope she doesn't get frustrated and quit in rage.
Fingers crossed!!
Steelyuhas
Member
MrBig said:
Fairly certain they can't change weapon properties, or at least if they can they haven't changed any of that.
But yeah they can alter gametypes, maps to an extent, make new gametypes, even change the UI for certain gametypes.
electricpirate
Member
I'm pretty sure they can't change weapon properties, just gametype stuff like HUD elements, rules. IE, adding Bro Spawning, changing hill order etc.
Conc Rifle seems the same to me too.
Conc Rifle seems the same to me too.
A27_StarWolf
Banned
could they change certain weapon effectiveness against vehicles?
Blue Ninja
Member
ForgeGAF customs rocks for Euro people such as myself.MrBig said:
I also seem to have fixed my ODST controller. Now to get used to it again, at least until next week when I get one of those silver ones. Ever since it broke, I've been trying to get used to two other controllers. The result is that I now absolutely suck at shooting stuff.
User 73706
Banned
Yeah, I was kind of tired when I posted that. :lolDax01 said:
Also, bit of LASO shenanigans of my own:
back for the Winter Contingency one, a friend and I got through EVERYTHING but the Zealots at the end in basically half an hour or so pretty easily. And then the next hour and a half was fighting Zealots. How we won:
-Friend comes in the area driving Forkie
-I go "what, are we going to rig it up again?" (before, we'd put it in areas to blow up/unshield Elites, push Jorge out, etc.)
-He keeps on driving, so I take out the Grunts
-Sword elite runs out, and he RAMS THE GODDAMN ELITE WITH IT
-Zealot loses shields, I just barely headshot it and take the sword
-I proceed to sprint into the final room and fight both remaining Zealots at once with no shield, and somehow manage to kill both of them; keep in mind it takes six slashes or so to kill one
-Him and I begin to FSJRGASHGADSHRHFASEHRFASHHAS with joy
-Press button
-???????
-Profit!
Interestingly, it seems that while the skulls affect bullet damage and whatnot, vehicle impacts aren't--meaning that while it may take in excess of six charged Plasma Pistol shots to drain the shields of some stronger Elites, a simple ram from Forky will leave them one-shot. I actually have the film saved, but it's like two hours, so I'll have to find some time to make a clip of it.
Ok, so despite it being prone to nade spamming, Countdown is one of the better default maps on reach.
I do have ONE glaring problem with it though... its not color coded at ALL. Would it have been so hard to make one side red and one blue? Or at least change SOMETHING about one side to set it apart. Because right now I still get confused on that map in terms of callouts.
I do have ONE glaring problem with it though... its not color coded at ALL. Would it have been so hard to make one side red and one blue? Or at least change SOMETHING about one side to set it apart. Because right now I still get confused on that map in terms of callouts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szeefif6Rek
Rushed up game of Multi-team on a Warlock remake in Forge using Classic settings.
Rushed up game of Multi-team on a Warlock remake in Forge using Classic settings.
Steelyuhas
Member
Striker said:
That map needs to be in matchmaking NAO!!
Especially, the the new multi-team.
Also, can I get a linktacular to that map?
Another long-time lurker with new posting privileges...I may have set a record, as I think I submitted my initial registration request back in 2008 or 2009. When this thread originally moved to Community, I thought my Halo thread reading days were over. Glad it all worked out in the end
AR or BR?
BR
Highest level in Halo 3 and what playlist?
30 (Lone Wolves/Team Slayer)
I've been with Halo from the beginning, but never played multiplayer until the last days of Halo 2, and that was primarily through lan with equally unskilled friends. Always been much more interested in campaign/co-op, and I love the universe Bungie created (even if it hasn't always been explored very well in game.)
Once Halo 3 came out, I figured I'd try to learn some actual multi skills, but my gaming reflexes have long been past their prime. Spent a disturbing amount of time as a Staff Captain in H3 before finally deciding to focus on ranked for a while. After I hit 30 I accepted my limitations and was done with ranked. Much more fun in Social Slayer/BTB.
Favorite Halo 2 map?
Beaver Creek
Favorite Halo series map?
The Pit
AR or BR?
BR
Highest level in Halo 3 and what playlist?
30 (Lone Wolves/Team Slayer)
I've been with Halo from the beginning, but never played multiplayer until the last days of Halo 2, and that was primarily through lan with equally unskilled friends. Always been much more interested in campaign/co-op, and I love the universe Bungie created (even if it hasn't always been explored very well in game.)
Once Halo 3 came out, I figured I'd try to learn some actual multi skills, but my gaming reflexes have long been past their prime. Spent a disturbing amount of time as a Staff Captain in H3 before finally deciding to focus on ranked for a while. After I hit 30 I accepted my limitations and was done with ranked. Much more fun in Social Slayer/BTB.
Favorite Halo 2 map?
Beaver Creek
Favorite Halo series map?
The Pit
I was just playing with ElamiteWarrior. He was on Triggers Down with Neighbor and they both just got dropped today I believe. They were replaced by SK and Hysteria. He was talking sooooo much shit about them. Trash talking their "girlfriends" It was really funny. I have what he said on the stream and I could probably blow up his spot by posting it but I'm not gonna do that. He's a good guy.
We Won
Barrow Roll
Member
So yeah, people trying to get the Just Hold On... daily challenge, do it in Score Attack unless you know you won't die at all in Firefight. I died in round 1 and apparently the subsequent rounds won't count if you do.
http://halo.xbox.com/en-us/news/blog/the-defiant-map-pack-and-more-coming-soon-to-an-emerald-city-comicon-near-you/18662
The defiant map pack will be playable at Emerald City Comicon, plus there are some vague references to "the map" being playable as well. Could this be the previously rumored Covie-themed Forge World, or are they just referring to the already announced Defiant maps?
The defiant map pack will be playable at Emerald City Comicon, plus there are some vague references to "the map" being playable as well. Could this be the previously rumored Covie-themed Forge World, or are they just referring to the already announced Defiant maps?
BS Angel said:
Hey guys, Im another long time lurker thats just been recently approved! Im looking forward to becoming an active member of HaloGaf also, being Scottish boost the EU numbers around here -and hopefully down the line being able to run some games with you all.
Seeing as Ive been snooping around these parts for a few years Ive come to gain a fairly good grasp on where most people stand with the ever evolving halo debates, so for my first post it only seems fair that I give you a brief insight into my Halo history and my opinions on Reach.
In short:
H2 BR
50 MLG
Midship
Im about to hit my mid twenties, so you can understand Ive been gaming for a while. I was a day one purchaser of the original Xbox and with it Halo CE and ever since then Ive pretty much been hooked with the universe (halfway through Cryptum at the moment) and the games. I regularly attend local social LANs and a few competitions from time to time but nothing too serious.
After getting Xbox Live in 2006 I would say Im more a multiplayer type of person that enjoys the more competitive settings, but Ill always finish the campaign first before delving into matchmaking. My fondest memories probably lie with Halo 2 and do believe its multiplayer experience (post patch) has been the best in the series due to the really solid base player traits, the maps, melee system, Battle Rifle and dare I say it the button glitches! So its probably no surprise I quickly became interested in MLG.
With the release of Halo 3 I was initially pretty disappointed, feeling the game was one step forward and one step back, but in the end I came to love/hate it and clocked thousands of games on it. I really was a little miffed why Bungie changed things that clearly werent broken like the melee system and was saddened that they didnt turn the Halo 2 button glitches into actual mechanics like for instance a GOW fast reload. Even though Halo 3s map pool was not as strong as Halo 2s there were definitely some greats like Narrows, The Pit and Construct were some of my favourites. I usually hung out in the MLG playlist and loved the theatre mode, where after gaming straight for a few hours with friends it wasnt uncommon to take a break; eat, hydrate and watch a few games back together. Good times.
I was extremely optimistic for Halo: Reach maybe too optimistic. However, I was definitely pleased when I got my hands on the Beta even with all its bugs and glitches, the most visible improvement over Halo 3 for me being the net-code.
Forward onto release - the Reach campaign is easily the most consistent in quality out of all the Halos in my eyes, its of a decent length, well rounded with a good mix of infantry and vehicle based fighting and there is no real filler mission or act. I would also say the story telling was much better compare to previous games (not like that was hard) and I really liked the whole on the ground approach/in the action to the filming the of the cut-scenes. My only real distaste with it was the jarring frame-rate issues.
The game was never going to topple Halo CE but it at least gave it a shot.
Did someone even play-test this!? is my first thought when I think if Reachs multiplayer. Maybe Im being a little harsh. But seriously, I wouldnt be surprised if we read in a years time that Bungie had a few setbacks during their development which resulted in the abysmal map selection and many chopped and tweaked features, which ultimately will never see the light of day.
I had high hopes for Armour Abilities when they were first announced, I thought they would have brought a whole new depth to the game and increased they skill gap - I probably got sucked in with all the talk about people comparing Reach to Shadowrun. But, after playing with them solid now for the best part of six months I feel they do not enhance Halos game-play in any way, and as it stands how they currently work in multiplayer I would go as far as saying they are a worse edition than Halo 3s equipment. Without going into any great detail and specifics on each of the abilities, I believe they totally slow the game down, destroy map flow and give bad players a get-out-of-jail card. Armour Abilities should have been extensions to player movement and their skill and I feel they should have been built for much more specific uses for use on specific maps.
And onto Bloom
Spamming wasn't nearly as effective in the Beta due to guns like the DMR and Pistol having recoil attached to them, and because of the existing head-shot bug. Since Bungie fixed that bug and removed recoil from the shipping game, you would think they would have tweaked the bloom to balance/counter the effectiveness of spamming. Bungie's original plan after all was to make it so that the DMR would be harder to use at close range, which makes sense and goes with their statement "defining weapons by range". What actually happened with current bloom system is the DMR becomes more effective at close range but for all the wrong reasons.
Bungie has always been about giving us options to play our desired Halo, but I would say it was a complete oversight not giving us greater options with Armour Abilities, Bloom and stuff like tweaking individual weapon damage considering how many people would benefit from these options. The Firefight fans got a wealth of upgraded options over ODST, why didnt the traditional multiplayer side of things get the same treatment.
Its not all doom and gloom, really! Reach has given me Active Roster, Firefight and Forge World even with all its negatives, people are beginning to work round it and create some extremely unique competitive maps which is great for us avid MLG followers. Im hoping for a Covenant themed Forge pallet in the future that isnt as straight up and down as the Forerunner themed pieces weve got at the moment. I was a little disappointed with the lack of forge-able items on the premade maps but Bungie have made a few keepers like Countdown, Zealot and Tempest.
In summary, I do think Reach is an exceedingly good game you dont get to a General rank by not enjoying playing it - Im critical because I care and feel that if the game just got a few of its humps ironed out it would be better for everyone.
Seeing as Ive been snooping around these parts for a few years Ive come to gain a fairly good grasp on where most people stand with the ever evolving halo debates, so for my first post it only seems fair that I give you a brief insight into my Halo history and my opinions on Reach.
In short:
H2 BR
50 MLG
Midship
Im about to hit my mid twenties, so you can understand Ive been gaming for a while. I was a day one purchaser of the original Xbox and with it Halo CE and ever since then Ive pretty much been hooked with the universe (halfway through Cryptum at the moment) and the games. I regularly attend local social LANs and a few competitions from time to time but nothing too serious.
After getting Xbox Live in 2006 I would say Im more a multiplayer type of person that enjoys the more competitive settings, but Ill always finish the campaign first before delving into matchmaking. My fondest memories probably lie with Halo 2 and do believe its multiplayer experience (post patch) has been the best in the series due to the really solid base player traits, the maps, melee system, Battle Rifle and dare I say it the button glitches! So its probably no surprise I quickly became interested in MLG.
With the release of Halo 3 I was initially pretty disappointed, feeling the game was one step forward and one step back, but in the end I came to love/hate it and clocked thousands of games on it. I really was a little miffed why Bungie changed things that clearly werent broken like the melee system and was saddened that they didnt turn the Halo 2 button glitches into actual mechanics like for instance a GOW fast reload. Even though Halo 3s map pool was not as strong as Halo 2s there were definitely some greats like Narrows, The Pit and Construct were some of my favourites. I usually hung out in the MLG playlist and loved the theatre mode, where after gaming straight for a few hours with friends it wasnt uncommon to take a break; eat, hydrate and watch a few games back together. Good times.
I was extremely optimistic for Halo: Reach maybe too optimistic. However, I was definitely pleased when I got my hands on the Beta even with all its bugs and glitches, the most visible improvement over Halo 3 for me being the net-code.
Forward onto release - the Reach campaign is easily the most consistent in quality out of all the Halos in my eyes, its of a decent length, well rounded with a good mix of infantry and vehicle based fighting and there is no real filler mission or act. I would also say the story telling was much better compare to previous games (not like that was hard) and I really liked the whole on the ground approach/in the action to the filming the of the cut-scenes. My only real distaste with it was the jarring frame-rate issues.
The game was never going to topple Halo CE but it at least gave it a shot.
Did someone even play-test this!? is my first thought when I think if Reachs multiplayer. Maybe Im being a little harsh. But seriously, I wouldnt be surprised if we read in a years time that Bungie had a few setbacks during their development which resulted in the abysmal map selection and many chopped and tweaked features, which ultimately will never see the light of day.
I had high hopes for Armour Abilities when they were first announced, I thought they would have brought a whole new depth to the game and increased they skill gap - I probably got sucked in with all the talk about people comparing Reach to Shadowrun. But, after playing with them solid now for the best part of six months I feel they do not enhance Halos game-play in any way, and as it stands how they currently work in multiplayer I would go as far as saying they are a worse edition than Halo 3s equipment. Without going into any great detail and specifics on each of the abilities, I believe they totally slow the game down, destroy map flow and give bad players a get-out-of-jail card. Armour Abilities should have been extensions to player movement and their skill and I feel they should have been built for much more specific uses for use on specific maps.
And onto Bloom
Spamming wasn't nearly as effective in the Beta due to guns like the DMR and Pistol having recoil attached to them, and because of the existing head-shot bug. Since Bungie fixed that bug and removed recoil from the shipping game, you would think they would have tweaked the bloom to balance/counter the effectiveness of spamming. Bungie's original plan after all was to make it so that the DMR would be harder to use at close range, which makes sense and goes with their statement "defining weapons by range". What actually happened with current bloom system is the DMR becomes more effective at close range but for all the wrong reasons.
Bungie has always been about giving us options to play our desired Halo, but I would say it was a complete oversight not giving us greater options with Armour Abilities, Bloom and stuff like tweaking individual weapon damage considering how many people would benefit from these options. The Firefight fans got a wealth of upgraded options over ODST, why didnt the traditional multiplayer side of things get the same treatment.
Its not all doom and gloom, really! Reach has given me Active Roster, Firefight and Forge World even with all its negatives, people are beginning to work round it and create some extremely unique competitive maps which is great for us avid MLG followers. Im hoping for a Covenant themed Forge pallet in the future that isnt as straight up and down as the Forerunner themed pieces weve got at the moment. I was a little disappointed with the lack of forge-able items on the premade maps but Bungie have made a few keepers like Countdown, Zealot and Tempest.
In summary, I do think Reach is an exceedingly good game you dont get to a General rank by not enjoying playing it - Im critical because I care and feel that if the game just got a few of its humps ironed out it would be better for everyone.
Barrow Roll
Member
I concur. And get on Reach foo.Gui_PT said:
xxjuicesxx
Member
Welcome everyone.
Man that Warlock video made me want that in MM. It would be so great in MLG - CTF 5 flag, KoTH, Oddball, and Slayer. It would be good in Team Slayer, Team Objective, and a bit of Multi-Team slayer and hill.
I'd really like a Nostalgia Map Playlist though. With H1/H2/H3 maps that work for 4v4. Half Slayer Half Objective.
Man that Warlock video made me want that in MM. It would be so great in MLG - CTF 5 flag, KoTH, Oddball, and Slayer. It would be good in Team Slayer, Team Objective, and a bit of Multi-Team slayer and hill.
I'd really like a Nostalgia Map Playlist though. With H1/H2/H3 maps that work for 4v4. Half Slayer Half Objective.
Im going to say this right now, the 'classic playlist' will probably disappoint in the long run.
All games have different game logic and even just by adjusting the settings a bit it wont make the game logic the same as Halo 1 or 2 . Different game logic is also the reason Hemorrhage sucks on Reach.
All games have different game logic and even just by adjusting the settings a bit it wont make the game logic the same as Halo 1 or 2 . Different game logic is also the reason Hemorrhage sucks on Reach.
Barrow Roll
Member
Bah, I probably won't be online at this hour tomorrow. You gonna be on at your usual time? You know, 3am over here?Gui_PT said:
I suggested this during customs yesterday but I think I was drowned out by the laughter from that Warthog game. Next customs lets just try out the rumored "Classic" settings with some ForgeWorld remakes. Like good ones (lol).wwm0nkey said:
bobs...onGaf
Member
eeblogue said:
Welcome! I agree with a lot of your analysis. If armour abilities were less situational and more 'extensions to player movement' they could have been a lot better. I personally go through periods of loving Reach and then getting extremely frustrated with it and not playing until matchmaking changes. Usually I get hooked again after those, fortunatly they happen on a regular basis!
A27_StarWolf
Banned
I love Hemorrhage on Reach.....
A27_StarWolf
Banned
wwm0nkey said:
Go play an 8v8 classic flag on hemorrhage. It's great.
I find it an enjoyable map. Harder to do more things throughout due to the range of the DMR.wwm0nkey said:
The classic settings will be intriguing and if N0F enlists new maps and ideas. We only know so far that he wants 120% base speed.
We may not have any new maps in Ninja's vision - maybe just default maps with default weapon placements. :\
I see your thoughts, though - nothing will be a perfect match to 1 and 2's smooth gameplay. But this is the closest thing we'll have to a faster base speed that 1/2 had, and no equipment/AA's slowing down any movement or scenarios.
The Librarian
Banned
*cringes*eeblogue said:
Au contraire!