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Halo: Reach |OT3| This Thread is Not a Natural Formation
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ncsuDuncan
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Which maps are the Forge remakes closer to? Could it actually be:chess said:
CE:
Rat Race
Damnation
Halo 2:
Elongation
Lockout
Midship
Desolation
Tombstone
Warlock
Beaver Creek
Not that it really matters for the most part.
Actually, it will just be 1 map. Forge World. With 5 Forged variants.Plywood said:It would be an amazing troll on 343i's part if they ship with 5 maps.
Do it 343.
The entire Campaign takes place on various sections of Forge World. There are 3 Firefight maps and they are all un-forgeable sections from Forge World.
And not a new, remade Forge World either. The exact one we have now.
Hypertrooper
Member
Guys, guys. Jun's story isn't told yet. 343i did something new with the first Firefight DLC for a Halo game and they could do a campaign dlc for the first time, too.Tunavi said:
They could even tell some stories from the fiction like the fights at the generators. etc
ncsuDuncan said:
I'm not 100% sure on the battle creek but the others are as stated.
Falagard said:
I don't believe so. At least not initially. No official word on weapons I don't believe. I'm assuming original weapons with DMR replacing BR on the Halo 2 maps. Although DMR's might be needed for distance on Hang 'em High. From my experience playing a lot of these maps with similar settings, it should be bit of a relief for the AA's haters. However don't expect a perfect nirvana experience. It's WAY better than default Reach though!
Major Williams
Member
That's why they're on top. Good all around company.Hey You said:
And this time the mongooses won't even have different selectable colors! Also the budget has been inexplicably cut in half.ncsuDuncan said:Actually, it will just be 1 map. Forge World. With 5 Forged variants.
The entire Campaign takes place on various sections of Forge World. There are 3 Firefight maps and they are all un-forgeable sections from Forge World.
And not a new, remade Forge World either. The exact one we have now.
I think this in a nutshell lays out the challenge for 343i. Bungie made a lot of major changes to the series over time, some ebbs and flows to the gameplay. We have communities built up around MLG and Griffball, people want Action Sack and ranked Team Slayer. And so on.Tunavi said:
Halo's gameplay is so big and so malleable there's no easy way out. Supporting all the different game types - arena, BTB, Firefight, Invasion and so on - is a massive resource draw, and Reach's shipping maps shows what happens when those resources are spread too thin.
I'd be fine with 343i paring back a bit. But they also need to find a way to clearly separate and reward the MLG and Griffball players properly. One side wants something like ranked playlists and a hard rating (1-50) attached. Others want to go in and smash stuff and have fun, and get rewarded in an appropriate way for doing so.
I think the solution lies in streamlining the game types somewhat (though I do love most of them) and a combination of Reach's universal reward system and Halo 3's Social/Ranked schism.
And that's before we get to game mechanics. Personally, Halo 3 is the bar to clear in terms of balance, speed, etc. But again it's impossible to please everyone there.
I would face the challenge of a new Halo game with unbridled terror. 343i has their work cut out for them.
Tha Robbertster
Member
Hypertrooper said:Guys, guys. Jun's story isn't told yet. 343i did something new with the first Firefight DLC for a Halo game and they could do a campaign dlc for the first time, too.They could even tell some stories from the fiction like the fights at the generators. etc
I would love a campaign DLC. Jun was my favourite character and I always thought it was a shame we only really played one entire mision with him.
Maybe, there could also be a part where you meet Soron (From Halo Evolution), the misformed spartan dwelling in the woods of Reach
squidhands
Member
Pro-pipe and Armor Lock playlists confirmed!OuterWorldVoice said:
The Librarian
Banned
Other than Halo 3 being "too recent," I was about to respond by saying Halo 3's best maps were its BTB maps (which is certainly true for the most part), but Halo 3 did have some damn fine mid-size maps. The best of which was Citadel, Guardian, and The Pit, and all three deserve to be up there as much as any maps from Halo 2.Falagard said:
Truth be told: My main concern about 343i's next game is not that it will be like Halo 3, but that it won't have the Pro Pipe.OuterWorldVoice said:
Don't let me down, man.
Hitmonchan107
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CrazedArabMan
Member
chess said:
I have been so out of the loop but just saw this on the weekly update,
could this be what brings me back to Reach, true Classic Halo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm jumping with joy right now.
A27_StarWolf
Banned
How do you guys think a highlands with the snipers replaced with focus rifles would play out?
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
wwm0nkey said:
Music to my ears. Love it.
In an interview before this one, Frank talked about features like Theatre Mode and Forge being ways that Halo innovated even in its third entry so those are things we can expect from the 'dramatic innovations'.
If they bring back Halo's core gameplay from Halo 2/Halo 3, they can mess around with anything else regarding the gameplay as they please, imo.
Not really worth putting Halo 3 maps in there. Just The Pit and Avalanche? One of which is a remake anyway. Just put the Pit in there and forget about Halo 3. Not sure why Elongation is there though... That map sucks balls. It's the one with the conveyor belts right?
Btw, why the hell can't people change the colors of the pieces in Forge? Yeah you can change the lights but why didn't they go extra there?
Btw, why the hell can't people change the colors of the pieces in Forge? Yeah you can change the lights but why didn't they go extra there?
Hitmonchan107
Member
Tashi0106 said:
Touche.
A27_StarWolf
Banned
Kuroyume said:
I would venture to say it has something to do with deadlines.
Correct me if I am wrong, but usually the first big update to a game are changes that were supposed to have been met but were not because of deadlines.
CrazedArabMan
Member
Guardian would have been nice to add, though all of the remakes I have played lag really bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cs3yKmXUOkTashi0106 said:
Like said above, deadlines.Kuroyume said:
There was other stuff that Bungie wanted to do, but didn't have the time. Like the ability to choose your own Map photo (Instead of the same Forge World picture). Another one I believe was to add doors that could open and close by hitting a switch.
I'm sure there was many other little things like that, that Bungie wanted to add but couldn't due to time restraints.
Because there's only so much you can feasibly do in Forge to get a near accurate remake. The Pit can happen, but I personally rather have Midship, Lockout, Damnation, and others in before it. If you have a good Pit map on your HDD, put it in your File Share and send it to Urk. I've seen people mention Narrows and Construct, and those were pretty bad maps. Only liked by some here because of its MLG roots. Construct was HATED in regular playlists, understandably so.Falagard said:
That said, I'm sure we'll get some additions as well as possibly some edits. The Hang 'Em High map isn't the best edition of its kind. I'm a big fan of one called "Casket," see here.
I also can see eventually them adding in Sanctuary and Ascension, as somebody made a better interpretation of those maps than the Pinnacle and Asylum creations. I believe Mac made the Sanctuary one.
Elongation was fantastic for CTF Classic and Neutral Bomb.Kuroyume said:
ncsuDuncan
Member
Falagard said:
Guys, there are TONS of Halo 3 maps in the playlists. You just have to put the Halo 3 disc in to access them.
Tashi0106 said:
Dual wielding, better vehicle sandbox and vehicular damage associated with player health, melee which does damage through shields, equipment, and powerups.
MLG doesn't bring any of that to the table.
ncsuDuncan said:
Get that shitty mcshit answer out of here. Halo 3 is done and dusted and everyone knows it. There will be no more DLC for that game, playlists are no longer being updated, and the player population is dwindling. No one that I know plays it regularly.
Striker said:
Ah, figures... I think I may have played a game of CTF on it once. It was mostly Slayer for me though and a lot of grenades. Have to think though that the lack of a moving coveyor belt won't make it as fun. I once checked out a Colossus remake in Forge and the lack of moving conveyor belts really killed it.... Along with the shitty grav lift and lag.
Halo core gameplay:
Halo CE:/2 player base speed
Power ups
Grenades that bounce and that you can actually toss further than 8 feet
A decent sized jump
Halo 2 vehicles (not overpowered, easy to handle, don't last long just enough to get you places)
Lock on rockets for both air and land vehicles
Flag throwing (include an option to turn off the announcers voice for the bitches)
Halo 2 style assault arming. Pick up and drop the bomb before dying to keep it arming.
2 hit melee for oddball and bomb
No bloom
A pistol that people can stop bitching about. People like it overpowered so just give it to them like that. Stop it already.
Hitscan
No FRC for the Banshee
No deployable tools/armor stuff
Lots of teleporters
No elite slayer
A27_StarWolf
Banned
chess said:
but, I miss some good Halo 3 maps
bobs...onGaf
Member
wwm0nkey said:
Nah - they should add movement bloom, so the more you move the more random your movements are. A button which stops a vehicle in its tracks but also makes it invisible, and they should make it a 6 shot kill.
I type in jest, but before Reach came out, if I had made a post like:
"They should add in recoil bloom so the more you shoot the less accurate your weapon becomes, a button which makes you stand still and turn invincible, and they should up the shots to kill to 5"
people would have gone crazy lol.
"They should add in recoil bloom so the more you shoot the less accurate your weapon becomes, a button which makes you stand still and turn invincible, and they should up the shots to kill to 5"
people would have gone crazy lol.
When is Letters unbanned anyway? Why is he banned?
Halo 3 maps should be in the classic playlist - it might not be that old but its still the classic oldschool style Halo and sure I can still go on Halo 3, but with those matchmaking times I would probably have to play all night to get like 1 game on something which deserves to be played a lot more like The Pit.
A27_StarWolf said:but, I miss some good Halo 3 maps
and you can still log on and play them on XBL. You can't do that with Halo or Halo 2. Halo 3 also threw equipment into the game. This isn't classic. I personally don't view dual wielding as classic either. Any one of these remakes in the classic list most certainly has to be better than any stock Reach map with exception to the Halo 2 remake Asylum. Am I right? It certainly won't be a perfect list but its the best we'll get (we being classic halo gameplay lovers) until 343i shows us some love.
xxxstylzxxx
Member
Kuroyume said:
I doubt that bloom is going to removed entirely from any future Halo titles because it's clear that it serves it's purpose as far as preventing precision based weapons from throwing off the balance of the entire sandbox. A simple option to adjust it, along with individual weapon sliders, would be more than satisfactory.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
chess said:
Do you have a different definition of classic than the one found in the dictionary? By definition, Halo 3 can be considered classic. =)
xxxstylzxxx said:
Wanna bet on it?
Hitmonchan107
Member
My favorite moment from the HaloGAF betrayal spree on Spire a few days ago.
Edit: Thanks to Raide for rendering!
Edit: Thanks to Raide for rendering!
Hitmonchan107
Member
Raide said:
Thanks! Although I don't think the quality of the clip merits rendering. But thank you.