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Halo: Reach |OT3| This Thread is Not a Natural Formation
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StUnNeR H2K
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<3 Urk!
I got me some free maps! I haven't been playing any Halo lately, but I'm still lurking and caught one of the free map pack codes in the img alt description!
I got me some free maps! I haven't been playing any Halo lately, but I'm still lurking and caught one of the free map pack codes in the img alt description!
Thanks. It's funny, because after working (and blogging) about the map for two months, I'm actually tired of it. :lolRaide said:
If I had to build it over again, I'd do it all differently because all I see are flaws. But it was the best I could do and I figure it's not bad for a first map. And I might take a pass at another all-Forge (or rather, mostly) BTB variant soon.
But I'm pretty sure there are going to be some amazing maps come out of the contest. From the ones we've dabbled in during customs, the signal:noise ratio was something like 1:5. But that one was freaking great.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
GhaleonEB said:
Don't want to sound like a jerk but I got a question for you. You are obviously a big FF guy and not so much into the matchmaking, how did you get around the barrier of not having a lot of BTB experience or MM in general in reach to make a good map?
GhaleonEB said:
I know how you feel. :lol
The more I play with Forge, the more I want to head back and remake my old maps. Its amazing how much you pick up, especially when looking at other ForgeGAF creations. It really does make you lok and thinks and think "Damn, why didn't I think of that!".
I just hope Bungie supports Forge more and keep improving things. Some more content and Forge spaces are always welcome and it will mean they have a nearly infinite supply of community maps to check through and add to MM.
Devin Olsen
Member
Wow... I just now snagged a code off the Update for the maps.
I assumed they were all gone...
Edit: There must have been close to 30 codes hidden in the source code (Alt tags, etc).
<3 Urk
I assumed they were all gone...
Edit: There must have been close to 30 codes hidden in the source code (Alt tags, etc).
<3 Urk
Played a game on Anchor 9 where I ran into some dude with a chaingun in the hallway and traded a bunch of fire from my pistol with him but he managed to rip my shield off first. I stepped aside and desperately threw a grenade to get him but it must have hit a wall or taken a bad bounce to land close to me. Just as I threw it I was also assassinated by some dude behind me. The grenade went off and killed me so it counted as a kill for chaingun dude. The dude behind me was pissed thinking chaingun dude stole his kill so he started shooting his AR at chaingun dude killing him and counting as a kill for me. :lol DUMBASS
The Librarian
Banned
Was the mobile version of Bnet the "it" Urk was talking about? I hope not, because that would be disappointing for me since I don't have an iPhone or what not. If it is, good news for those that have a smart phone.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
That's why I specified in reach, I feel like most of the remakes don't play as well as the new maps.Sai-kun said:
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Dax01 said:
Makes sense. =\
GhaleonEB said:
Yeah, I was wondering if there were youtube/silverlight embeds that weren't popping up. Even though I already got the codes, I still have a premonition to want to find codes hidden about. :lol
As for the maps, I hope they're good. Though, I'm hoping there's another contest, or another way of getting maps into matchmaking in the future. Didn't finish my two maps (and I asked nokyard help me on the second) in time to get videos made. :/
Dax01 said:
I'm both expecting it to be the "it", and hoping it isn't that "it".
Though, if I'm remembering correctly, a mobile b.net has been asked for by the b.net community for awhile now. Plus, it'll be nice being able to see the challenges/horribly mangled English of the forums from practically anywhere.
Scythian Empire
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Subscribing.
Grimm Fandango
Member
Fairly tame update.
Shake Appeal
Member
Yeah, no mention of the next map pack, no day and date for MLG playlist, no day and date for the first significant Title Update, no grovelling apology for the game's many questionable design decisions, no moratorium on Armor Lock, no Aerospace reveal, and no pictures of ManCannon's trip to Disneyland.Grimm Fandango said:
Some weeks I don't know why I even bother clicking the link.
Stop punching the left shoulder! Always assassinate from the right.Plywood said:
This isn't even a joke post!
CrazedArabMan
Member
Dang it, too late on the codes. ugh...
Slightly Live
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Shake Appeal said:
(Available 12.07.10)
Shake Appeal
Member
I for one welcome our new Bungie overlords.Dani said:
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Deleted member 22576
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Has anyone reached a bonus round in firefight?
I got to it last night at it spawned like 50 hunters with 8 skulls on. :lol
I got to it last night at it spawned like 50 hunters with 8 skulls on. :lol
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Striker said:
Pinnacle needs a huge fixing of its spawns, and adjustment of power weapon location.
A fair question. And one I thought about when I was making the map: how do I make a map for a game mode I don't play a lot of (yet)?cuevas said:
I felt, after playing through the campaign, some customs and the Beta that I had a decent grasp of the sandbox and how to balance it. My main concern was the jet pack, and I addressed that by making every surface of the map accessible without it - so jet packers could achieve shortcuts, but not new sniper perches. One of the last things I did before testing the last iteration of the map was scrub it for places players could go with a jetpack that others couldn't. I ended up blocking off or removing about a dozen nooks and crannies.
Beyond that, a lot of the balancing is similar to Halo 3's BTB, which I played the heck out of. (Halo 2 as well, to a lesser degree.) I tried not to overpower the map with vehicles (two mongoose, one 'hog and a Ghost for each side) or power weapons (one rocket launcher, one hammer, one sniper for each side).
And then the big thing was to play test the hell out of it. The first iteration of Crossroads was tested in customs about five weeks before I submitted it to the contest, and new versions were tested every weekend in between. Stuff like vehicle timers, load outs, weapon placement, ammo count and spawn timers, respawn locations, cover, sight lines and player movement routes and base design all got a lot of updates between play tests.
It's a bit funny to think that I put more time into building a BTB map than I have so far playing BTB. But that's how it's worked out.
That said, I'm ready for some new FF game types, and the Noble map pack is getting me into MP now. I said once before I hadn't had much fun with MP. But these maps rock, and I've enjoyed my time playing on them.
Hydranockz
Member
I've had a few thoughts recently about making Hallway for Reach and I think over the weekend I will start making my first few iterations. I might have to call it something like Corridor or something because of some changes I want to implement... Should be awesome. I may draw up some initial concept art tonight.
UltimaPooh
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I think I have a decent Blame Stosh here...
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=10554513&player=Josef Redbeard
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=10554513&player=Josef Redbeard
Shake Appeal
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Grenade launcher replaces rockets, shotgun is moved to banshee. Done!Alienshogun said:
cuevas. PhD.
Member
GhaleonEB said:
Thanks for the response, always interesting to see what you put up in Forging Ahead and your process.
Shake Appeal
Member
I mean, I guess the current thinking is that one team has the advantage of the big tower, so the other needs rockets, sniper, and shotgun to compensate, but it really doesn't make much sense with the moving spawns, especially when the rockets splash damage turns the big tower into a beautiful target.
The real problem with the sniper is that old chestnut of people being able to shoot when only the merest hint of their head is peeking over the parapet. I quite like the sniper play on that map, and don't think it dominates any more than it did in Halo 2. The problem is the pinpoint precision of the DMR, which devolves most close games on Pinnacle into a Mexican standoff between the two towers; crossing the dish means taking your life into your hands. It's one of the few maps that plays better with AR/Pistol starts.
Grenade launcher takes much more skill and has less splash damage than rockets, so better suits a small map with no vehicles. And moving shotgun gives teams a reason to go to and contest the old banshee platform, which is currently underused.
The real problem with the sniper is that old chestnut of people being able to shoot when only the merest hint of their head is peeking over the parapet. I quite like the sniper play on that map, and don't think it dominates any more than it did in Halo 2. The problem is the pinpoint precision of the DMR, which devolves most close games on Pinnacle into a Mexican standoff between the two towers; crossing the dish means taking your life into your hands. It's one of the few maps that plays better with AR/Pistol starts.
Grenade launcher takes much more skill and has less splash damage than rockets, so better suits a small map with no vehicles. And moving shotgun gives teams a reason to go to and contest the old banshee platform, which is currently underused.
Slightly Live
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I thought GAF's Armour Lock whining is petty at times but Bnet has it beat. Apparently this topic was well received... =\
This level of discourse is just shameful yet it's how most non-gamers generalise the level of maturity of game playing folks. It's hard to refute this when you hop on Live and you hear worse sometimes.
This level of discourse is just shameful yet it's how most non-gamers generalise the level of maturity of game playing folks. It's hard to refute this when you hop on Live and you hear worse sometimes.
Grimm Fandango
Member
Dani said:
lol
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Tashi0106 said:Thread locked?
The Forum Ninja folks, when they do catch such shite, aren't very tolerant of it, thankfully. I'm just shocked at the amount of folks in support of the "humour" in that OP.