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[Striker]

Elite Slayer is better for larger maps. In enclosed areas like Sword Base or Zealot, I despise it. Too much grenade spam. Makes me feel like Orbital.

Changing the Needler off the AL ability is better because all a player would do is wildly toss the plasma grenades, Needle, and if they can't kill them, they'll just turtle themselves in AL. The change to the Plasma Rifle makes it more of a close quarters class, though it won't be as efficient on maps like Powerhouse and Pinnacle.

 

[Major Williams]

I cannot understand peoples fascination with Elite Slayer... It seems to come up ALL the time in Multi Team, and is almost always voted for.

I wish it got its own play list... It doesn't even feel like Halo when I play it.

Easiest way to get the double kill from the grave achievement. If 2 guys aren't using AL.

 

[kylej]

Forget Pinnacle; I love how rockets spawn dramatically closer to one team than the other on Reflection. What a piece of shit map.

 

[memecomplex]

I can't believe I'm typing this, but I've come to the conclusion that Elite Slayer on decently sized - or at least, open - maps can be quite fun. I can't stand it on Sword Base, but - shockingly - it was great fun on Pinnacle. Had a great game of it on The Cage as well. Between Evade and the Nerfle I find ample targets sitting around gawking at the dudes in Armor Lock or jetpacking around. And Evade jukes Needler rounds, so it's easy enough to avoid those guys. Many dongings were had.

Great to see you coming round. Elite Slayer is tons of fun! Can be a pain on Sword Base though!

 

[Genesis Knight]

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=news&cid=30229

Man that community hopper sounds sweeeet.

 

[FourDoor]

Is the Cage 2.0 implemented with this new playlist update as well?

Also, is anyone jumping online soon? I want to try out the new community maps.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

So far the maps are shit, played 2. One is a really shitty atom rip off with no soft kills on the top parts that only jetpack can reach, the other was WAY too dark.

 

[Gui_PT]

So far the maps are shit, played 2. One is a really shitty atom rip off with no soft kills on the top parts that only jetpack can reach, the other was WAY too dark.

Want to get a GAF party going on?

 

[Striker]

Aspirocity
Capacitor (looks like an MLG-varied map)
Elevation
Enclosed
Endzeit
Obsidian
Reverence
Thrust
Ziggurat

Those are the names in the playlist. Only Slayer and Slayer DMRs. Lack of any flag or bomb, but what else is new.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Want to get a GAF party going on?

I'm with some BC guys right now, but yeah in a bit.

Just played a map called elevation, it's actually pretty good. Should be multiteam/btb though.

 

[FourDoor]

Want to get a GAF party going on?

Send an invite to FourDoor if you guys still have room.

 

[CrazedArabMan]

So, instead of "fixing" Armor Lock, they fix the weapons that come with that loadout?

Man, they just refuse to admit AL destroys any amount of fun that could be had in most matches.

Don't worry, we'll hear about a patch that will fix AA up for good along with other problems Reach has within the next 2 weeks and the announcement of a free FF map for all the problems we've had to deal with, right, right....

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Yeah, reverence is the worst map I've ever played, even worse than anything bungie has done yet. That map is complete garbage.

 

[kylej]

ugghh after waping the past few days I am playing so bad right now.

 

[Striker]

Yeah, reverence is the worst map I've ever played, even worse than anything bungie has done yet. That map is complete garbage.

Can't be worse than Foundry's Smashed.

Glancing through the maps through a quick search, many of them seem uninspiring.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Can't be worse than Foundry's Smashed.

Glancing through the maps through a quick search, many of them seem uninspiring.

It's REALLY bad, sharp ramps down and up, it devolves into spam and grenades.

So far only 2 good maps out of the bunch.

Taking a break right now, I've had my fill of armor lock bitches.

Aspirocity is the one that's way too dark, and endzeit is the shitty atom ripoff.

So out of 5 maps I've played from the bunch only Elevation and Enclosed seem "ok."

 

[electricpirate]

Sorry Barrow and MrBig, As soon as I got on I got a frantic phone call from work that I needed to help with.

 

[MrBig]

So far the maps are shit, played 2. One is a really shitty atom rip off with no soft kills on the top parts that only jetpack can reach, the other was WAY too dark.

They're all pretty bad. I played 4 of them. Boring and uninspired.
e: also elevation is easily the worst. Terribly designed. No focus point. 4 snipers when there shouldn't be one.

 

[Hypertrooper]

So, instead of "fixing" Armor Lock, they fix the weapons that come with that loadout?

Man, they just refuse to admit AL destroys any amount of fun that could be had in most matches.

How should they fix Armor lock? How? These are just playlist changes. The fix will come with the TU I hope.

 

[vatstep]

Yeah, you mean until they just AL/Melee/Stick you anyway and grab the needler on the ground.

This solves nothing.

AL belongs in BTB and BTB only.

I agree that it doesn't solve the overarching issue of Armor Lock in general (or more specifically in Elite Slayer, the AL/sticky combo spamming), but it at least makes the choice of loadout a tiny bit more inconvenient. Best case scenario, it might force a small number of players to choose between a Needler and Armor Lock. Yeah, most people will probably still use the AL loadout and then go searching for a Needler, but it's something, at least.

I still think it's too early to expect Bungie to make a major change like removing AL from entire playlists, but this change is at least recognition of what it's caused Elite Slayer to devolve into (where I think it's at its worst).

 

[Gui_PT]

How should they fix Armor lock? How? These are just playlist changes. The fix will come with the TU I hope.

Armor Lock in BTB only. There, problem fixed.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Thrust is really good, but it's an MLG remake.

 

[Striker]

No Lockout or Wizard/Warlock maps in there, hmm? Kind of figured they would be easy passes to insert into such a testing playlist...

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I agree that it doesn't solve the overarching issue of Armor Lock in general (or more specifically in Elite Slayer, the AL/sticky combo spamming), but it at least makes the choice of loadout a tiny bit more inconvenient. Best case scenario, it might force a small number of players to choose between a Needler and Armor Lock. Yeah, most people will probably still use the AL loadout and then go searching for a Needler, but it's something, at least.

I still think it's too early to expect Bungie to make a major change like removing AL from entire playlists, but this change is at least recognition of what it's caused Elite Slayer to devolve into (where I think it's at its worst).

No it's not, they already moved dropshield around.

AL needs to go to BTB.

Holy crap I just got raped on Thrust.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Holy crap I just got raped on Thrust.

This is an interesting sentence.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

This is an interesting sentence.

Let your imagination run wild.

 

[FourDoor]

Thrust is really good, but it's an MLG remake.

Ahhh thats why it was so familiar.

Just got in a game in Thrust where 2 out of my 3 randoms dropped as soon as the game started. Was getting spawn killed left and right and then me and the other random came back for a nice tie at the end. Felt so good!

 

[neoism]

Man Elevation is sooooo bad.. :/

 

[GhaleonEB]

Man Elevation is sooooo bad.. :/

I jumped a bit when I read the name, because I made a map in Halo 3 called Elevation that I kind of liked, and just earlier today was considering remaking it in the Colosseum on Forge World. Did a huge double-take. :lol

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Either way, I'm about at the limit of my patience with this game. Much more AL in 4v4 or non vehicle maps and I'll just play less frustrating games "BFBC2/COD/Gears/anything else" until bungie pulls their heads out of their asses.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Armor Lock in EVERY PLAYLIST!

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Armor Lock in EVERY PLAYLIST!

Yeah, fuck that shit.

 

[kylej]

why the fuck would you keep rocks on a 90 second respawn on Anchor 9 in TEAM DOUBLES? lord have mercy.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Because they want everyone to quit playing their game.

 

[Kuroyume]

Obsidian is a pretty awful map... Well, that's my first impression of it. I left the game because I was so frustrated. Like ATOM it's fucking gigantic, maybe even bigger than Atom. It seems like a very jetpack friendly map which was very annoying.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Obsidian is a pretty awful map... Well, that's my first impression of it. I left the game because I was so frustrated. Like ATOM it's fucking gigantic, maybe even bigger than Atom. It seems like a very jetpack friendly map which was very annoying.

Is that the one that's in the coliseum and really fucking dark with the disks in the middle and a tower on both sides?

 

[FourDoor]

Is that the one that's in the coliseum and really fucking dark with the disks in the middle and a tower on both sides?

You just described how most of the maps are like in the playlist are layed out! LOL

Also what the heck is up with the AL power up pickup in one of the maps? :lol

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

You just described how most of the maps are like in the playlist are layed out! LOL

Also what the heck is up with the AL power up pickup in one of the maps? :lol

Needs more Armor lock, that's what.

Seriously, I'm hitting "fuck this game" levels of pissed off ness. I think it's time to spend a week or two playing other shooters.

It's not even that I suck, I'm better than a lot of "regular players" but the game is just more frustration than it's worth, at a certain point the fun is just not worth the hassle.

 

[kylej]

love the massive weighting increase in Anchor 9 for this new season. Rockets, radar, 90 seconds, Denmark host. What a fucking joke these playlists are. Get someone who plays the game to tweak them.

 

[Tashi]

love the massive weighting increase in Anchor 9 for this new season. Rockets, radar, 90 seconds, Denmark host. What a fucking joke these playlists are. Get someone who plays the game to tweak them.

Lol...that makes too much sense.

 

[Domino Theory]

Wow, all this hate on this page. :lol

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Wow, all this hate on this page. :lol

It's been building in me for a while. AL just ruins small game types. I find myself playing other games longer, and Halo in spurts. It shouldn't be that way, I'm too worried about being frustrated in Halo and every time it's Armor lock that makes me kick a puppy.

Bungie are complete idiots for putting that in small team combat. It really is their "commando lunge/one man army noob tube spam."

 

[op_ivy]

So far the maps are shit, played 2. One is a really shitty atom rip off with no soft kills on the top parts that only jetpack can reach, the other was WAY too dark.

why the fuck isnt this addressed yet, especially in the default maps. the jet pack sucks enough because of the fact it breaks map flow, but to allow people to get into areas of the map (free to snipe and move into cover) that are completely impossible to reach without a jetpack is insane.

EDIT: reading the january playlist update at b.net, it sounds like this is beginning to get addressed

 

[TacticalFox88]

Sorry to hear that shogun. *sigh* Guess the hype is wearing off now.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Sorry to hear that shogun. *sigh* Guess the hype is wearing off now.

Eh, it's still a fun game, but it's just not worth the frustration most of the time. That is the issue. You can get the same type of fun from other games without the rage inducing gameplay.

Which is also probably a reason why it's players number is so low.

 

[CrazedArabMan]

Eh, it's still a fun game, but it's just not worth the frustration most of the time. That is the issue. You can get the same type of fun from other games without the rage inducing gameplay.

Which is also probably a reason why it's players number is so low.

Everyone should migrate back to Halo 3.

 

[Sai-kun]

Now that my WoW subscription expired, I might have to play this game again :lol I'm kinda looking forward to some new maps, but I'm not looking forward to the inevitable rage that I will have from playing this game.

Spoiler

or i could just..you know...do my school work..

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Everyone should migrate back to Halo 3.

I'll just play everything else until it's fixed, or until Kyle/Juices other gaffers want to play and we can force Pro.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

I'll just play everything else until it's fixed, or until Kyle/Juices other gaffers want to play and we can force Pro.

We should just play armor lock modes. I mean its a button you can press so you CANNOT DIE FROM ANYTHING! How is that not balanced and awesome!? :lol :lol

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

HaloGaf, I am back. (Not that you noticed my absence).

Burnt myself out on Reach a bit when Ops came out, and am now reinvigorated and ready to play. Enjoying the new maps, I think the glacier map is my favorite.

EDIT: You still hating on Armor lock? Guess not much has changed. :lol