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Halo: Reach |OT4| This Thread is Not Your Grave, But You Are Welcome In It
- Thread starter GhaleonEB
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Utopie is a POS, but the added Banshee and terrible spawn points makes it one of the worst FPS maps I've ever played.
On another note, I'm still on T&R Legendary. I got to the part with the hangar bay with the 2 levels where at the end 2 hunters come out. Problem is I don't have the sniper anymore and the enemies on the top level are hard to get with just a PP/PR. Is there an easy way out of this mess?
On another note, I'm still on T&R Legendary. I got to the part with the hangar bay with the 2 levels where at the end 2 hunters come out. Problem is I don't have the sniper anymore and the enemies on the top level are hard to get with just a PP/PR. Is there an easy way out of this mess?
Shake Appeal
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Selection_(video_game)GhaleonEB said:
The disappointment of Forge World is mainly how areas like "the island" and "the rock" aren't really so diverse. You can only make so many adjustments or small changes, but all around it still won't work as truly intended. Utopie fixed the main problems Paradiso had, but in reality, it's still a poor AREA, much less the map itself.
It'd be nice if Halo 4 had a map editor in the realm of Far Cry, or at least something to edit textures or terrain in some form. In Foundry we were extremely limited and only permitted to tiny symmetrical maps, and there was tons of brown. Sandbox was the ugliest of them all, but it was better than Foundry because we could build in more than area. That still was extremely limited because only the bottom part and main land was the true assets. Also, again, you were limited mainly due to the lack of soft-kill areas you could not include. The sky part of Sandbox was broken, thus rarely used.
It'd be nice if Halo 4 had a map editor in the realm of Far Cry, or at least something to edit textures or terrain in some form. In Foundry we were extremely limited and only permitted to tiny symmetrical maps, and there was tons of brown. Sandbox was the ugliest of them all, but it was better than Foundry because we could build in more than area. That still was extremely limited because only the bottom part and main land was the true assets. Also, again, you were limited mainly due to the lack of soft-kill areas you could not include. The sky part of Sandbox was broken, thus rarely used.
What's mind blowing about that is Reach has sustained about 700,000 to 730,000 daily these past two weeks or so. So MW2 has more than that, which shows how much people still play it. Halo 3 at this stage was netting around the same I believe, but it was going against MW, and later WaW, but weren't as populated as these two.The Real Napsta said:
xxjuicesxx
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I like Rebirth without the Jetpack. In doubles I don't think it has jetpack but then we got it in Arena and there was one dude jetpacking up top and then shooting down, so I started doing it, had a pretty great game that time too but I preferred the wall actually effecting the gameplay in a larger sense than it does when you can just fly over it anywhere...
Don't know which one Select is.
<-----This guy. Although it is odd I haven't heard from them yet...
Don't know which one Select is.
A27 Tawpgun said:
<-----This guy. Although it is odd I haven't heard from them yet...
squidhands
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xxjuicesxx said:
xxjuicesxx
Member
squidhands said:
Yea havent played that one yet, do you know what playlists its in?
Hypertrooper
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Team Double, The Arenaxxjuicesxx said:
Tha Robbertster
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Have we ever had a multiplayer map in Halo at night time? I'd love to have a map where the sky box is a part of the milky way.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Tha Robbertster said:
Blackout.
The Librarian
Banned
Mostly. Very late evening. Sandbox was a beautiful map.Tashi0106 said:
Backwash is another map in the dark. Guardian kind of.
So what were they thinking when they designed this game? I watched some Halo 2 gameplay just now and it made me hate the mechanics of Reach so much.
The movement sucks. You're slow as shit. I aways find myself dying because I get trapped in the geometry. In previous games, you could jump on top of and over objects in order to traverse the map.
Grenades are nukes. Oh...and we are slow as shit so thats just adding fuel to the fire. The extreme grenade magnetism is just a joke. Auto-aim for grenades that are already overpowered? Good idea.
Armor abilities get spammed like no other. Wanna jam the other team's radar and be invisible an entire match? Want to be invincible whenever you want? Over-shield was very crucial to map control and influenced map movement. Now you can just spawn with whatever damn ability you want regardless of the situation.
The Halo 2 battle rifle was an elegant weapon. Hitscan made it very controllable. You could fire fast and accurately. Bullet spread saved it from being overpowered at long range. If you fire the DMR unscoped, gameplay feels soooo sloooow. Shoot....wait for bloom to reset...shoot...wait for bloom to reset...ect. Halo 2 BR was BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM. That's FUN. Reach is as slow enough as it is.
Please 343, just go back to the balanced golden triangle for Halo 4. It used to be Gunplay - Grenades - Melee. Hell, you could even say that map movement was just as important as any of those. Now it's Grenades - Melee - Armor abilities - gunplay. In that order of importance. :|
Also, I'd love to see the hitscan Battle Rifle added to Classic map pack.
The movement sucks. You're slow as shit. I aways find myself dying because I get trapped in the geometry. In previous games, you could jump on top of and over objects in order to traverse the map.
Grenades are nukes. Oh...and we are slow as shit so thats just adding fuel to the fire. The extreme grenade magnetism is just a joke. Auto-aim for grenades that are already overpowered? Good idea.
Armor abilities get spammed like no other. Wanna jam the other team's radar and be invisible an entire match? Want to be invincible whenever you want? Over-shield was very crucial to map control and influenced map movement. Now you can just spawn with whatever damn ability you want regardless of the situation.
The Halo 2 battle rifle was an elegant weapon. Hitscan made it very controllable. You could fire fast and accurately. Bullet spread saved it from being overpowered at long range. If you fire the DMR unscoped, gameplay feels soooo sloooow. Shoot....wait for bloom to reset...shoot...wait for bloom to reset...ect. Halo 2 BR was BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM. That's FUN. Reach is as slow enough as it is.
Please 343, just go back to the balanced golden triangle for Halo 4. It used to be Gunplay - Grenades - Melee. Hell, you could even say that map movement was just as important as any of those. Now it's Grenades - Melee - Armor abilities - gunplay. In that order of importance. :|
I hate you Sage.
Also, I'd love to see the hitscan Battle Rifle added to Classic map pack.
Hypertrooper
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Do Zealot and Condemned count?Tha Robbertster said:
squidhands
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It's always nighttime in space.Hypertrooper said:
Me too. The biggest thing I miss from the older maps is the interactive pieces. Trains, moving conveyor belts, etc. I'll take static images in the background any day to have things like that back.Tashi0106 said:
Tha Robbertster
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Tashi0106 said:
Ah yes, it wasn't a really prominent feature on that map though so I think that was the reason I couldn't remember it.
Can't really say anything about backwash, but it was in a jungle, right? I'd like a map where the darkness makes a bit of a difference, maybe just some kind of darker tone. That wasn't really the case with Blackout.
Hmmm, I'm not sure actually. There isn't really a day/night cyclus in space, plus those maps mostly space in a space station/ship so I don't think it really counts.Hypertrooper said:
Tha Robbertster
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I was more thinking about the levels of darkness as in Nightfall for example, not anoying and no need for night vision but it gives a certain atmosphere to the map.
If there's conveyor belts, have them smooth out gameplay and allow for faster movement across the map, like Elongation.A27 Tawpgun said:
Maps with those items or alike: Colossus, Zanzibar, Containment, Elongation, Relic, Terminal (train).
Then you had High Ground, Standoff, Last Resort, and Longshore.
Sadly, things like the switch in Last Resort means nothing since you can still get outside with a flag or escape death. The gate was very crucial for One Flag Zanzibar. The switch to open windows and bottom door in Standoff, I felt, helped the opposing team because it gives more freedom to access the base or toss frags inside. Man, maps where it was NEEDED to hit switches, Zanzibar and Relic, is so lost in recent Halos.
thezerofire
Banned
I agree on all points, but especially on maps. I loved finding shortcuts through maps, innovative jumps and all that. Getting caught on superfluous details is just annoying too.Tunavi said:
Genesis Knight
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Someone want to explain the whole Sage/gameplay lead thing to me? I just played the games back in the day; didn't read up on them. Someone got fired and ex-FASA people got brought on right?
ncsuDuncan
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Yes, but if you make it too dark it could become difficult to distinguish red and blue, or even give one team color an advantage.Tha Robbertster said:
As for gates and other moving peices of a level, I miss them too but I can understand why they're gone. I'd rather take a gateless map over one with a gate prone to network problems.
Hopefully that issue can be solved in future games, I always loved how Zanzibar and High Ground had a switch to give the Attackers a secondary objective.
Even without moving objects you could do something fun with spawning/despawning stationary objects on the map. How cool would it be if there was a switch object you could place and all it does is cause certain tagged objects to despawn. You could place it on Boneyard and have the switch deactivate certain shield doors.
thezerofire
Banned
Sage was the sandbox designer from Reach. He previously worked on Shadowrun, a fantastic game, but the same principles don't really work with Halo.Genesis Knight said:
Genesis Knight
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...plasma cannon...
Tha Robbertster
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ncsuDuncan said:
Yes, this is important. But I think with the amount of darkness on nightfall, this wouldn't be a problem. You can easely see the colours of all the elites, wether they are blue, red or gold.
Deputy Moonman
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Yeeeeeaaaahhhhh!xxjuicesxx said:
thezerofire
Banned
seriously. and the only things that needed nerfs, grenades and maybe rockets, didn't get nerfed.A27 Tawpgun said:
oh how I miss that beta pro pipe
Steelyuhas
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Striker said:
I've noticed that Reach's population has actually been increasing in the past month or two. I'm surprised that MW2 still holds the 2nd spot.
Tunavi said:
Everything you said was perfect except for the last sentence. In all seriousness though, if we are getting classic weapons for the new maps, we need to get all of them. You can't just throw the Magnum in there has have everything else be Reach. It would be broken.
A27 Tawpgun said:
So sad and so true.
Although the Elites nerf is not fully on the character nerf, every single Covenant weapon in the game was nerfed pretty hard.