HiredN00bs
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Halo: Reach |OT5| A Monument to All Our Sins
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The Librarian
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Good points all around. I understand. But the two levels do share some of the worst qualities we've seen in a Halo game.Havok said:
Hm. I guess I've never gone around using it properly then.
As far as I remember, I was comparing Reach's campaign, level to level, to Halo: CE's. I wasn't comparing it Halo 3's. But, yes, gameplay wise, when it comes to pushing the sandbox and the encounter design, Halo 3's is a step above Halo: CE's. Level by level, however:Striker said:
1. Halo and Crow's Nest Halo
2. Truth and Reconciliation and Tsavo Highway Tsavo Highway
3. The Silent Cartographer and The Storm The Silent Cartographer
4. Assault on the Control Room and Floodgate AotCR
5. 343 Guilty Spark and The Ark The Ark
6. The Library and The Covenant The Covenant
3v3 Level to level, they're equal.
It's a good level. But it's out of order.
Oh, darn-it! You got me. I'm not just expressing my opinion, I want attention. Yup. You totally have me figured out.
Thanks for not being a jerk on purpose. You want a cookie or something?
Julie with the revealing black dress and blinged out necklace. Kinda feel bad that she has to dress like that but I guess if you've got it, flaunt it.
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Yeah, of course. But even if you could afford it, the ROI on playing 10 seconds of some shit like Shinedown or 3 Doors Down or whatever vs something off a $5 101 Rock Songs CD is nil.
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Dani said:
Yeah, of course. But even if you could afford it, the ROI on playing 10 seconds of some shit like Shinedown or 3 Doors Down or whatever vs something off a $5 101 Rock Songs CD is nil.
whoever does it, use this for inspirationA27 Tawpgun said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLci5DoZqHU
Slightly Live
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kylej said:
Yup, not worth paying the money. Plus with Streaming rights and venue playing rights, I'm sure the costs would be inflated.
Need to save the cash to pay the pro's.
Actually, how much do these MLG folks get? Is there a large financial incentive?
The Henery
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Hitmonchan107 said:
It's always been buttrock. Embrace it. Personally I preferred the Halo 3 buttrock track they used to introduce the gametypes.
National Guard behind Puckett? Really?
Kinda weird that the Starcraft commentators get far louder roars than Puckett and co. I know Starcrafts popular but it's already making Halo feel like the number 2 game for MLG.
Dani said:
$100000 for the National Championship, split between the four players (and sometimes the coach). I think it's $20000 or $25000 for the standard events. Of course a bunch of players have various sponsorships to buff their earnings.
The Librarian
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It's not cherry picking, buddy. My view is that there is no better concentrated amount of fun and awesomeness, that is, level by level, back to back, than Crow's Nest through The Covenant. That's six levels. I gave you six levels (Halo through The Library).Striker said:
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Coolio. I'll be read it later tonight.Dani said:
Devolution
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Where is everybody?
Zeouterlimits
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Woah woah, I was sure this was out in October.Dani said:
After feeling very burned on the Halo Encyclopedia I'm going to wait on GAF impressions before I buy.
The Librarian
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Well, yeah. I was never claiming otherwise.MrBig said:
Edit: When did I give the impression that I was talking about it as a fact?
Edit 2: Why are you saying this to me? He brought it up. He was the one who thought I was trying to grab attention because I have a different opinion.
Dani said:
The only way (imo) MLG is financially viable is if you're under the age of 22. If you're a high school kid, or you're a college student and you've got a chance to make an extra $5,000-$15,000 a year playing video games it's a pretty cool deal. If you're an adult (or worse, if you're like T2 and leave high school to go pro) I don't know how the hell you survive.
Back in the early 00s, when everyone and their sister could get could get money through brain-dead VCs, some of these dudes got fat contracts to try to keep them from competing leagues. Now MLG is pretty much the only major player in the console world, so they don't have to offer jack to keep these kids playing.
All the top ranked teams are so good that sometimes it just comes down to who's feeling it. Sometimes you have good Halo days, sometimes you don't. Outside of, like, Top 2 placement you're making jack shit as a return for all the countless hours these dudes put in. I know some have sponsors but really, Red Bull isn't paying a 16 year old from Ohio $100k a year; that kid will wear a Red Bull shirt for a pack of cigs and free drinks.
It's fun as hell to watch though.
FyreWulff said:
No shit. Companies have to start returning their payroll and size back to earth after enjoying themselves when times were good. Be interesting to see how long they can live off private equity. They have a decent enough demographic that they'll be around for a while.
Serious-posting in this thread feels weird.
You later compared the best level from Halo 3 to the absolute worst in Halo 1. But in fact the rest of the unlisted levels in Halo 3 were putrid (Sierra 117, Cortana, Halo). It's all subjective anyway, but you're in the high minority of thinking Halo 3 is anywhere near Halo 1's masterpiece. People in six years won't be clamoring for a Halo 3 campaign remake, because it's a forgettable experience.Dax01 said:
kylej said:
They need to do more small events in-person, and not depend on so few teams to carry the product. They need to pressure teams to get more of their paycheck so to speak from outside sponsors and owners just like actual pro teams, and be just the administrators, not the administrator AND the employer.
Also get a partnership with someone other than Dr Pepper. Call up Dew and get them to sell MLG Gamer Fuel.
They also need more stability to their ruleset and map selection. They need to start a season, stick with the settings for better or worse, then apply changes the next season. Otherwise any of their playlists in any game are always going to be out of sync, and people trying to get into the product have to play catch up all the time. You don't see the NFL or NBA changing rules 4+ times in the middle of the season. Somebody can buy a ticket for Columbus and expect certain settings under say v3 and then by the time Columbus ends v4 is already coming out.
They also need to stop acquiring every other hardcore community other there like Smashboards and so on. I like competition between leagues, and they're clearly taking on way too many people and games than they can handle. Focus on their core product first. They think they're Dana White or Vince McMahon and they're not. Trying to go up against the Korean leagues with Starcraft 2 is like the Missouri Valley Conference trying to take on the NFL. A waste of money.
The Librarian
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What, you mean The Covenant and The Library? I also compared Floodgate to AotCR. What part of back-to-back, an uninterrupted sequence, do you not understand? You're trying to pick a disagreement out of nowhere for whatever reason.Striker said:
Sierra 117 isn't putrid. That's some gross exaggeration.
That's okay.
Maybe, maybe not. That doesn't matter when it comes to what I think.
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kittens
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Yeah, it showed up in the post-game report. I've heard other folks complain about it not showing up, though, so I dunno what the deal is.Homeboyd said:
The Henery
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Tunavi said:
WE CAN GO DANCE WE CAN GET A DRINK
Lol did they get Rebecca Black to write the lyrics? She's really growing as a singer/songwriter.
SC2 is now their core product, and they aren't going up against them, they partnered with them (GSL) in a League exchange program. SC2 is the reason that MLG is still viable and growing. No one cares about Blops, and Reach is too niche to drawn in a mainstream audience, not to mention competitors.FyreWulff said:
Booshka said:
Haha yeah I was going to say, if anything is going to keep MLG alive its expanding into Starcraft.
Fyrewulff, I don't know if you're self-employed, but trust me there are people hired full time at companies like MLG to explore all the ideas you listed in your post. If they could get Mountain Dew as a sponsor, they would. If smaller events were profitable, they would do them. Achieving profitability in a relatively niche market is hard when you're the size of a company like MLG.
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kylej said:
I went into the MLG thread expecting folks to be talking about this upcoming match instead they're talking about Zerglings and shit like that.
Never realised SC2 was so popular.
The Henery
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A27 Tawpgun said:
Or the TU? It'll be interesting to see which way MLG goes with the changes; i'm 90% confident they'll use bloomless Reach (if that indeed is what we are getting). Saying that, I remember a shitstorm thread on their forums (halo 2 era) because MLG weren't going to incorporate the changes (the TU that tightened the BR spread) before the then upcoming event. Pro's were moaning, highly personalised insults were being thrown and it even featured Puckett falling out with Ogre 1. Shit was wild yo.
Lunchbox doesn't have time for gym. Obviously doesn't tan. Just donging then.
No, unless it is the greatest competitive title ever, even still it probably won't because it is a console shooter. Now that there is a viable competitive PC game for MLG to host on the circuit, the league will grow because competitive gaming on PC is much more popular and legitimate than consoles.A27 Tawpgun said:
I doubt Frankie and Co. are designing Halo 4 MP with MLG Halo players in mind. They want to appeal to a wider audience. Whereas Blizzard designed SC2 MP with competitive Starcraft in mind, and let's the casual audience take it or leave it. I'm sure Halo 4 will have plenty of custom options for MLG to try and make it fun to play and competitive at the same time, but won't work as they haven't for years.
thee henery said:
I think the deal at the time is that it was bit more difficult to get OXboxes up to speed. People weren't really familiar with dealing with a Halo TU that actually modified a game to the extent 1.1 did at the time
Then it turned out that the Map Pack disc included the TU so they had to use the TU anyway if they wanted the maps.
ManBearPanda
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Man, game 1 almost seemed like it'd be a close match before instinct woke up.
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Did Instinct change their team name in the middle of the match to please their corporate sponsor?
LOL
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kittens
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I just got my second Perfection today -- and this time it wasn't in SWAT! Yall should be watching me play, forget MLG.
Just kidding, I'm usually terrible, haha.