ODST's Firefight was concieved of as a challenging mode for multiple players to try and hold back an onslaught. As such, it rewarded team work and resulted in many intense and hilarious standoffs. Reach's Firefight was tuned for single player, and for matchmaking folks who don't coordinate as well. I don't know if the latter was intentional, but that's the effect. Everyone can take up a shooting position and seldom have to move from it. Do that in ODST and you're dead meat because of how many enemies swarmed to your position. It required team work and constant movement - which made it harder, and more fun.Dax01 said:
Halo: Reach |OT5| A Monument to All Our Sins
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This is the Firefight mode i made. Tweaked Firefight Classic, enemies and skulls are still the same except for the addition of Red Skull which increases enemy sight and hearing and lowers their damage reduction to 90%.
Two loadouts, Shotty/magnum and AR/DMR, both have 3 frags, no equipment, weapon drops enable but no ammo crates. No Radar, 110% damage resistance, melee and weapon damange, 90%shield recharge, no health recharge.
Give it a try, if possible with more people, tell me what you think.
It felt better than standard Reach FF offerings to me based on my quick test... but then i made it so i'm not objective about it.
EDIT the enemy's quite vicious on Heroic and they do seem to be more aggressive than normally.
EDIT i should add IWHBD skull... Well. For the next version then, after feedback.
I recommend using Buck or Johnson FF voice, those are the best.
This is the Firefight mode i made. Tweaked Firefight Classic, enemies and skulls are still the same except for the addition of Red Skull which increases enemy sight and hearing and lowers their damage reduction to 90%.
Two loadouts, Shotty/magnum and AR/DMR, both have 3 frags, no equipment, weapon drops enable but no ammo crates. No Radar, 110% damage resistance, melee and weapon damange, 90%shield recharge, no health recharge.
Give it a try, if possible with more people, tell me what you think.
It felt better than standard Reach FF offerings to me based on my quick test... but then i made it so i'm not objective about it.
EDIT the enemy's quite vicious on Heroic and they do seem to be more aggressive than normally.
EDIT i should add IWHBD skull... Well. For the next version then, after feedback.
I recommend using Buck or Johnson FF voice, those are the best.
Devin Olsen
Member
So for those of you not coming to PAX I plan on getting a few things signed to giveaway here. Any ideas what I could get signed/giveaway besides posters? Just trying to get an idea for some neat giveaways.
StalkerUKCG
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Devin Olsen said:
Yourself!.
In all seriousness If you can grab H1/H2 for cheap you could get them signed.
Hypertrooper
Member
Wait a second? People are using the firefight gametype option? Crap. I thought everyone forgot them, because you can't earn much credits via customs games...
Devin Olsen
Member
Yeah getting halo 1 signed to giveaway would be fun. I'll pick up a copyStalkerUKCG said:
thezerofire
Banned
or quick double-meleeingBigShow36 said:
I don't normally use it. Due to lack of credits. But i just had to see if i could recreate ODST experience or something similar.Hypertrooper said:
EDIT i sometimes play Halo CE on legendary and using AR almost exclusively. That's quite a challenge but it's not a bad weapon in CE campaign. A lot of ammo, good for wasting masses of Grunts and using the envinroment to your advantage, dueling Elites is easyish.
Syracuse022
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This actually brings up a good question - I know they won't bring back quick camo per se, but will they at least make it so one can move around without fading out of camouflage while the camo timer still lasts in the classic gametypes? No better feeling than spotting a camo'd guy and sniping him while he thinks he can move freely without being domed.BigShow36 said:
bobs...onGaf
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HiredN00bs said:
Really? it feels pretty damn overpowered to me, even at insane range.
Hypertrooper
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Right now at this moment, I'm completely the opposite of hyped for the HaloFest. HaloGAF hype me. Maybe the reason is pure envy.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Umm the AR got the ability to shoot a few bullets and then beat down. Seems like a FAIR TRADE.
BALANCE. DEAL WITH IT NUBSLUTS.
BALANCE. DEAL WITH IT NUBSLUTS.
A27_StarWolf
Banned
GhaleonEB said:
I like to compare the two games as one being an edge of your seat thriller with high stakes, and the other watching a good comedy with a bunch of friends.
They are both fun, but in ENTIRELY different perspectives.
If anything, Team Classic was one playlist where bloom was never a problem. The two issues it had was limited variety in map selection and weapon damage not being able to be modified without raising the power of the AR and grenades.ncsuDuncan said:
The movement and Needler Rifle usage is perfectly fine, in my view.
thezerofire
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Yeah the Needle Rifle needed to happen. I always picked in before they changed it, the DMR was just too slow for that movement speed.Striker said:
Account Attempt #4
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Wow, the number of depressing thread titles on the OT page at this moment is bumming me out, man. :\ Good hunting over there, and hope no banz 4 U.Tunavi said:
A27_StarWolf
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xxjuicesxx said:
You know this argument does not make much sense... sense close range you can do the SAME THING with the DMR right?
GhaleonEB said:
I hope Halo 4 can give us playlists with BOTH of these, because I have been missing ODST...
squidhands
Member
Now I want to play some ODST firefight.GhaleonEB said:
ncsuDuncan
Member
What? Why wouldn't you be hyped for HaloFest right now?Hypertrooper said:
Eh, I'm not a huge fan of the Nerfle. I much prefer the look, sound, and feel of a DMR.Striker said:
thezerofire
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It's a lot easier to miss a shot or two with a DMR than with an ARA27_StarWolf said:
A27_StarWolf
Banned
thezerofire said:
I see what you mean, but I always thought the chances of missing was not very high, that particular argument I find to be null and void.
thezerofire
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when you're close range and people are moving a lot you can miss pretty easily, and you still need 4 shots to break shields, which takes longer than an AR does to take down the shields I'm pretty sure.A27_StarWolf said:
xxjuicesxx
Member
A27_StarWolf said:
Yea but now the AR user will get that kill when before he wouldn't. The DMR user obviously was going to win before the TU, because well, DMR users are better players bottom line.
Just look at fyrewulf he did terrible all customs last night.
Devin Olsen
Member
How are you not hyped? PAX on it's own brings so much gaming news/fun to the table. Now we have HaloFest. It's going to be 3 days of non stop halo. TU will be detailed, there will be a lot of CEA gameplay, Halo 4 news, and who knows what else.Hypertrooper said:
I honestly cannot wait.
Genesis Knight
Member
Wut? Halo 4 news? Like how much, because I thought they'd still be keeping that hush hush.
A27_StarWolf
Banned
xxjuicesxx said:
there's no pleasing you lol
A27_StarWolf
Banned
will no bloom make the needlerifle better than the DMR? I mean it would work well with DMR starts, it could almost be a power weapon of sorts.
thezerofire
Banned
If someone is playing right now, can they test something for me? Set up two people, one with AR, one with DMR, pretty close, and have them start firing at the body at full speed and see whose shields pop first. I'm genuinely curious about this now.
it still takes more shots to kill with a needle rifle, so I don't knowA27_StarWolf said:
xxjuicesxx
Member
A27_StarWolf said:
Your mom did last night lolololol.
When yo 1v1 Eazy bro
Serious question: Anyone know how to turn a TARGA file format picture into something useable if I don't have say Photoshop or Quicktime Pro (yea it loads the picture but to export to something useable they want me to pay lolol)
A27_StarWolf
Banned
xxjuicesxx said:Your mom did last night lolololol.
When yo 1v1 Eazy bro
Serious question: Anyone know how to turn a TARGA file format picture into something useable if I don't have say Photoshop or Quicktime Pro (yea it loads the picture but to export to something useable they want me to pay lolol)
Eazy was on last night, he obviously chickened out.
I could always warm up and kick your ass in a one vs one first
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Sai-kun said:
They nerfed it like Ms. Gaga's makeup got nerfed.
/shudder
Hypertrooper
Member
I'll be there.Letters said:
xxjuicesxx
Member
A27_StarWolf said:Eazy was on last night, he obviously chickened out.
I could always warm up and kick your ass in a one vs one first
How do you 1v1 in FF? Makes no sense to me bro. FIREFIGHT WARMUPS YALL its going to be a GREAT DAY.
Devolution
Member
You know you've been playing too much Halo when it also manifests itself in your dreams. Nothing special, just thought I was in the game playing.
Also Shake, pacing your shots doesn't mean shit anymore now that people figured out they could spam body shots and just land the headshot. The funny thing being that spam doesn't even work unless you've got a good ping with the host. Honestly guys, I think if they made the headshot worth more again (and tone auto-aim way the fuck down), that would help as well. Couple this with a better strafe and we're back to aiming and movement being the differential in skill, not some inconsistent mechanic that makes you change the way you play every game.
Also Shake, pacing your shots doesn't mean shit anymore now that people figured out they could spam body shots and just land the headshot. The funny thing being that spam doesn't even work unless you've got a good ping with the host. Honestly guys, I think if they made the headshot worth more again (and tone auto-aim way the fuck down), that would help as well. Couple this with a better strafe and we're back to aiming and movement being the differential in skill, not some inconsistent mechanic that makes you change the way you play every game.
ncsuDuncan
Member
Striker said:
Don't get me wrong, I use the Needle Rifle when I play Team Classic. I know it's better.
But it doesn't feel classic.
The Needle Rifle is a neat addition to Reach. The supercombine works well and it is a nice Covenant counterpart to the DMR. I still prefer the DMR in Vanilla Reach, but I do not begrudge it being in those gametypes.
The Needle Rifle does not belong in Classic. At least, not as a spawn weapon. The only reason it is there now is to soften the impact of bloom on the gametype.
When the Title Update allows for the removal of bloom the Classic gametypes will feel more classic. I like that.
A27_StarWolf
Banned
Devolution said:
I'd be more than impressed if they found a way to bring stafe back.