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Halo: Reach |OT5| A Monument to All Our Sins
- Thread starter GhaleonEB
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I don't get it then, is this about missing out on the reaction gifs, rants, joy, megatons, tears, meltdowns, etc as it all happens? I don't think that compares to being able to say you were there. You can always go back an read all the halogaf crazyness and hilarity after the dust settles.Hypertrooper said:
A27_StarWolf said:
Its not difficult to find out how to do it, its simply a matter of them DOING it.
Increase player speed, increase player acceleration.
DONE.
Its frustrating, because I have had no indication 343 is even aware of the strafe issues. How amazing would it be if we actually had a Halo game where strafing was a skillful art, and people missed shots against really good players? It would be ridiculously amazing.
A27_StarWolf
Banned
BigShow36 said:
what about motion blur? Its little things like that that would have to be edited.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Sai-kun said:
She needs to pray for a new face, it appears her poker face is bluffing!
Oh snaps!
Shake Appeal
Member
Oh Devo, I was jus' trolling.Devolution said:
Honestly, I'd really prefer Halo 4 not have bloom (but I wouldn't be heartbroken: the sometime randomness of bloom is nothing to me after seven years of playing on American hosts from Europe). But I'm also worried that removing bloom from Reach is going to be a horrible mess, if only because every element of Reach's design was, well, designed with the others in mind, and tweaking one or two things could have horrible unexpected consequences. I'll give it a fair shake, but I'm glad it's not standard.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Shake Appeal said:
You really need to play with friends in custom games more. Its getting harder and harder for me to do so, but when I can its glorious. I love Halo 3 customs.
Shake Appeal
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Yeah, most of the Reach I've played in the last few months has been customs with guys who are solely in the UK/Ireland, and the experience is just so much smoother. As soon as we quit customs and go into big team or something, it becomes about half as fun to fire a DMR.bobs99 ... said:
Devolution
Member
Shake Appeal said:
oh u
It could, who knows, we'll see. I hope Halo 4 just balances weapons around each other instead of trying to implement inconsistent mechanics on top of everything else. It also just seems kind of counter-intuitive to add an outside element into the game to balance it out, especially when it wasn't necessary as evidenced by previous games (or CE if people are going to argue BR was too powerful, which I could grant them.)
Still think AAs could have their place in campaign/ff as loadouts and pickups in MM.
In all honesty felt like they were trying too hard to add new shit and force it on people when Halo is Halo.
Devolution
Member
Would anyone else like to see one of the games branch out and give insight into the other spartans? Several are just "MIA". Hmmmm...
GhaleonEB said:
Kind of makes you wonder if they might show a new teaser trailer or something, because I can't imagine there being anything to talk about that they would actually answer otherwise.
Are you like dreading the flight Hyper? I don't understand otherwise...my wife asked me if I was excited the other day and I was like "Yea, when my feet touch the ground in Seattle I'll be excited."
HiredN00bs
Member
You're talking about in combination with melee, I assume? The AR already has bleed-through.Ramirez said:
I like the change they showed to Armor Lock, because I've always felt it just had too much going for it as an ability. However, I feel like it's a moot change at this point because:
1) if you didn't use Armor Lock before, the fact that it's weaker won't entice you to use it.
2) if you did use Armor Lock before, you're less likely to use it now that's it's weaker.
3) most playlists in Reach don't have Armor Lock anyway.
They were trying to make a different Halo so it wouldnt be Halo 3.5. I understand that, but they went too far with some of the changes. Starting everyone unequally. Chance introduced into precision weapons. Removing OS and Camo pickups. Destroying the vehicle sandbox and BTB. And some smaller changes.Devolution said:
You want to know what's a proper sequel. Gears 3. All the core elements are the same. Add in new mechanics that enhance those elements. Fix all the problems from 2. The gears 3 beta was amazing.
@Devo All dead Spartans are MIA
HiredN00bs said:
Yes, you're seeing the return of the AR+Beatdown, a tactic I loathe, but will gladly swallow in order to get it back for the entire game.
I felt Reach was more of a game trying to quiet the people who claimed 1/2/3 were all the same, who cares what those people think? If it ain't broke...
If your team gets bounced in the first round Tash, will you still be content with missing Halofest?
The Librarian
Banned
MLG Raleigh? Whaa--?
Yeah, an hour long panel can't be filled just talking about the teaser trailer. I'm hoping for some background on development, the vision for the project, and perhaps some concept art, at the least. They won't show too much until CEA is out, I imagine, sort of how Reach was in the shadows until ODST was out a while.Ramirez said:
I was honestly surprised to see a Halo 4 panel at all.
Shake Appeal
Member
Just curious -- where is MLG Raleigh taking place in Raleigh? I know the city a little bit.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Ramirez said:Yes, you're seeing the return of the AR+Beatdown, a tactic I loathe, but will gladly swallow in order to get it back for the entire game.
I felt Reach was more of a game trying to quiet the people who claimed 1/2/3 were all the same, who cares what those people think? If it ain't broke...
If your team gets bounced in the first round Tash, will you still be content with missing Halofest?
Nah those guys are more important than the people who are Halo fans.
Sadly thats the truth, got to cater to the CoD demographic
Devolution said:
I would love a game that follows the Spartans before they got the armour. It would be interesting see the secret operations they did against the insurrectionists. You would still be badass but you wouldnt have shields and so it would play a lot more stealthily.
Other than that I would LOVE any game that follows the Spartans from the books.
Deputy Moonman
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I'm not sure if this would work, since I've never used it, but it's free:xxjuicesxx said:
http://www.xnview.com/en/nconvert.html
Yea, I'm not going into Raleigh with expectations set so high. I just want points. It's gonna be tough though, our team just formed the other night. We haven't had any real practice. Also, Halofest was out of my budget. I wish it was on a different weekend so I could at least follow the news and stuff.Ramirez said:Yes, you're seeing the return of the AR+Beatdown, a tactic I loathe, but will gladly swallow in order to get it back for the entire game.
I felt Reach was more of a game trying to quiet the people who claimed 1/2/3 were all the same, who cares what those people think? If it ain't broke...
If your team gets bounced in the first round Tash, will you still be content with missing Halofest?
Shake Appeal
Member
Sprint-double melee barely works, though, if you just keep shooting at them. It's a bit random how they bounce, but I'd say I win in that situation most of the time.
Sprint-sword or sprint-hammer, now... that's some fucking bullshit.
Sprint-sword or sprint-hammer, now... that's some fucking bullshit.
HiredN00bs
Member
While I don't like the principal behind gating damage from the DMR and melee, I did like the way it made the game more clear. I don't think going back to the way it was is the best solution. Part of what makes Halo for me is how clean the design is, and reading game play is paramount to that design. Look at how much emphasis they put on popping the shields in Reach, the loud "clang", the shields visually expanding and popping, all of that work is diminished with the re-introduction of bleed-through.Ramirez said:
Can you? I never bothered to learn the damage and health figures because it wasn't necessary with the way Reach reads.Tunavi said:
It doesn't work every time, but it does work enough to break gameplay.Shake Appeal said:
Sprint/sword is so cheap its a joke. Evade/Sword is even worse.
Right now 3 shots and a melee will only take down the shields. melees are like headshots (won't kill if shields are up)HiredN00bs said:
after the TU you'll most likely be able to melee for the kill after 3 shots, which is good.
HiredN00bs said:
Clear for whom? People who just started playing? Was the confusion over bleed-through damage ever a barrier to entry for Halo? Not that I've heard before, and I've been with it since the beginning.
Whats more clear:
I shoot you more times and melee so I win.
or
I shoot you more times, but we both die at the same time.
Shake Appeal
Member
This is the kind of thing I'm talking about when I say these post hoc fixes are messy.HiredN00bs said:
Also, no bleed-through, in combination with better netcode and wider windows for melee, helped make the game fairer for non-Americans (i.e. they could get traded kills at least where they would previously have got nothing). Oh well.
HiredN00bs said:
Thanks for the welcome. Yea...IGN is dead.
On topic, It seems advocating a 4 shot DMR at it's current rate of fire would be a little extreme, I just called for the experimentation of it. Thinking it over, I wouldn't mind if it stayed 5 shot. My line of thought was how a DMR user would fair if he was pitted against someone who is wielding a power weapon.
In terms of the overall sandbox, I guess I just want it more focused with very few weapons overlapping their roles. With the AR, for close range it will be outclassed by the shotgun, and in close to medium range it should be beaten by the pistol. Quite frankly it seems redundant to have an AR in Reach's sandbox.
I understand that is just one of many examples you could use for weapons that would be obsolete if the DMR were to be improved. However, my argument for most weapons that are not power weapons, that they are not needed. I would also state that their inclusion, like others have stated, may not benefit the core of Halo gameplay. The fewer the weapons, the easier it is to balance. Plus with fewer weapons you are afforded the ability to up the damage, which decreases kill times, and in my view creates faster gameplay.
It is clear that this line of thinking is not for everyone, and people like to use a variety of weapons while playing Halo. I get and respect that. 343 probably won't do something this drastic to the sandbox anyway. I am just a supporter of a smaller, more streamlined sandbox.
bobs...onGaf
Member
HiredN00bs said:
Bleed through was always readable in the other games. It was subtle but you could tell what peoples health was like they literally glowed when low on shields.
I dont know, reading the game was never a problem, but I cant explain exactly how it was clear. I think that the way it is now just for the sake of making the game easier to read isnt worth it.
I prefer bleed through personally.
Devolution
Member
Just made juices stream more epic by helpin' him to stream music over his gameplay through WMP.
HiredN00bs
Member
I played a lot of 3, and a ton of Reach, but going back to 3 from Reach, it just felt sloppier. It felt like the people I was shooting would just die randomly. It felt like I would die randomly. I realize that I could acclimate to 3 and it would be fine (it was fine before), but again as I said, it feels better in Reach. Is the game holding my hand? To an extent, but it's also a great tool for making smarter tactical decisions in a firefight. As I said, principally, I don't like the idea of weapon and melee damage varying, but practically, it played great, in my opinion.BigShow36 said:
xxjuicesxx
Member
Sai-kun said:
This shit is BANANAS. B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
Shake Appeal
Member
Actually, I don't know why I'm complaining about a bloomless DMR. I will do better with one.
Any word on the pistol? I kind of like how many people seem to suck at using it currently.
Any word on the pistol? I kind of like how many people seem to suck at using it currently.
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