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Halo: Reach |OT5| A Monument to All Our Sins
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As i said, why not make AR capable of both close range and medium range fighting? Burst/auto selector.Ramirez said:
And then: SMG would be a better choice for CQB, BR for mid range, pistol for close/short range headshotting, etc. Make the AR decent, useful starting weapon, with more specialized weapons being better at their intended role, worse for non-intended uses. That would make AR a good back up/fall-back weapon.
Balancing would be a bitch though...
Steelyuhas
Member
Woorloog said:
A lot of people (myself included) want to start with a headshot weapon regardless of how useful you make an automatic starting weapon. Much more fun to use and if it is single shot, inherently more difficult to use because you have to aim and fire each shot individually.
AR with Burst option (Options should include a default preferrence for this) but no scope. Burst should be headshot capable. There, that's your headshot starting weapon.Steelyuhas said:
Frankly, i like headshot starting weapon too, it's just that i prefer automatic weapons for CQB and i end up in CQB very, very often, regardless whether i'm seeking such. And i'd rather have a weapon that works for both CQB and mid range combat while carrying a specialist or power weapon...
I've done that. In Halo CE and 3, Halo 2 doesn't offer automatic weapons all the time, plasma rifle sucked in that game's campaign and SMGs didn't have enough ammo for extended battles.A27 Tawpgun said:
Halo 3 with AR/SMG/Spiker/Plasma Rifles is pretty easy, jackal snipers are annoying but when they're not?
Halo CE is a bit more challenging, but i've managed to play quite a lot missions on Legendary without resorting to pistol except when absolutely necessary, which is not often really.
ODST too.
Halo Reach AR is such shit in campaign, along with the campaign, that i haven't bothered.
ElRenoRaven
Member
You know actually you are all right. When I think Halo I think of 4 or 5 things.
AR, Pistol/BR, Sticky Grenades, Warthog/ghost. I bet you a lot of people are the same way. You say Halo and those are the first words that jump to mind weapon/vehicle wise.
AR never leaves my inventory if possible. I usually stick with AR and keep a pistol/BR for those rare times I need to use a distance weapon. There are exceptions for times i need a heavy weapon to take out vehicles, turrets, hunters, etc.
AR, Pistol/BR, Sticky Grenades, Warthog/ghost. I bet you a lot of people are the same way. You say Halo and those are the first words that jump to mind weapon/vehicle wise.
A27 Tawpgun said:
AR never leaves my inventory if possible. I usually stick with AR and keep a pistol/BR for those rare times I need to use a distance weapon. There are exceptions for times i need a heavy weapon to take out vehicles, turrets, hunters, etc.
Slightly Live
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Falt said:
Are you really suggesting the sandbox has taken a backseat for the sake of canon in past Halo games?
Hitmonchan107
Member
I know that feel. I don't know when you left, but let me help you out:Homeboyd said:
- Greg Bear's next Halo book revealed (Primordium)
- Gravity Hammer avatar gear
- Pre-order bonuses for "Anniversary": In-game skull (Grunt Funeral) and Master Chief avatar armor
- Mona Lisa motion comic part seven
- The Return motion comic
- McFarlane Anniversary figures
Haha, i just had a nice image of this in my mind. People shoot a bit each other, melee someone and then start running circles and jumping to pits as there's nothing else to do.Tunavi said:
I wouldn't mind a tad faster pace... What Halo 2 was, without glitches and exploits and some balance issues (and everyone has their own opinion what was a balance issue of course...).
Canonically, everything Covie related should be far better and deadly than what humans have. Mostly.Dani said:Are you really suggesting the sandbox has taken a backseat for the sake of canon in past Halo games?
ElRenoRaven
Member
Dani said:Are you really suggesting the sandbox has taken a backseat for the sake of canon in past Halo games?
I have to agree on this. They have specifically gone in and changed things just for gameplay and later came up with a reason canon wise or hell even none at all. Plasma Rifle being a prime example. It's stun gone and never an explanation. The AR and pistol are more examples. Those were changed several times and they fixed those changes by giving them different model numbers.
Dani said:Are you really suggesting the sandbox has taken a backseat for the sake of canon in past Halo games?
Not at all. I didn't make any reference to previous titles.
Just simply casting aside the idea that the current canon (Halo 3's Ending) gives 343 the opportunity to introduce completely new elements like some people here have suggested.
Basically, and I mean this in the nicest way possible, fuck canon when it comes to the sandbox.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Falt said:
Ah see now that we can all agree on. They will find a way for some of our favorite weapons/vehicles to return. It's really not that hard.
Arguably, the AR works like a real assault rifle in canon and the pistol is a sidearm (not counting Halo: The Flood, where the Chief uses the pistol like it was the weapon from the game).PsychoRaven said:
The game's are not limited by canon...
You know, it feels like there's more discussion about anything generally Halo related than Reach discussion.
EDIT, can we get the Falcon back for Halo4? I hated the Hornet but the Falcon's perfect. About the only thing in Reach that's perfect.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Woorloog said:
I think that's because right now we're in a new territory. We're between games and at the same time have a lot of unknowns ahead of us due to the new developers. So of course we're going to want to give our input into what makes Halo what it is overall in hopes that they listen. Which mind you I'm sure they are.
Hitmonchan107
Member
Trust me, I know. :^(Tunavi said:
The AR has a unique silhouette and as instantly recognizable as being from Halo even by non-gamers.
The BR and DMR look like they could have been in Call of Duty or Medal of Honor.
Neither "The Pistol" or the AR were in Halo 2. Halo 2's pistol looked like a modern day magnum.
All 3 Halo games with both The Pistol (in appearance) and the AR start you with both weapons in the first level.
Ruling: A Tie
The BR and DMR look like they could have been in Call of Duty or Medal of Honor.
Neither "The Pistol" or the AR were in Halo 2. Halo 2's pistol looked like a modern day magnum.
All 3 Halo games with both The Pistol (in appearance) and the AR start you with both weapons in the first level.
Ruling: A Tie
Also, the AR was the first hint that the humans are Forerunner. The AR ammo readout scope-thingy in Halo 1 is the same shape as most of the big doors in Installation 04
Rickenslacker
Banned
You know, that's very true. Silenced SMG was the most fun automatic in a Halo game for me since CE's AR.Woorloog said:
Hitmonchan107 said:
and here I was thinking:
- Tashi got banned over Liam Neason
- Epic lulz over Truskill and Armor Abilities
- Halomania XXII JR Member vs SR Member battle royal
- Frankie laying his pimp hand in defense of Bungie
- jelyk's posting of a pole dancing wave
missing anything?
ElRenoRaven
Member
FyreWulff said:
I can tell. Real spoilers below.
Humans aren't Forerunner. We actually fought the Forerunners and lost.
I'd suggest reading the book though. Gives some good background on them and us.
Reagan's BR
Banned
I think Halo 2 had the best sandbox. Regardless, my ideal sandbox would be:
Human Weapons:
-Halo 2 BR
-Halo 2 SMGs
-Halo 1 AR
-ODST Pistol
-Halo 2 Sniper (The scope on that was awesome)
-Halo 2 Rockets
-Halo: Reach Laser (It should only play a minor role like in Reach and should be nerfed a little more)
-Halo Reach Grenade Launcher
-Halo 1 Shotgun
-Halo 2 Mounted Machine Gun Turret (Non Removable)
-Halo 3 Turret (Already removed as a pick up weapon)
-Halo 1 Flamethrower
-Halo 2 Nade
Covenant Weapons:
-Halo 2 Needler
-Halo 2 Plasma Pistol
-Halo 1 Plasma Rifle (What the Plasma Repeater should have been, should return as the repeater)
-Halo 2 Fuel Rod Gun
-Halo 2 Beam Rifle
-Halo 2 Carbine
-Halo Reach Spiker
-Halo 2 Brute Shot
-Halo 2 Plasma Rifle
-Halo 2 Plasma Nade
-Halo 2 Sword
Forerunner:
-Halo 2 Sentinel Beam (Beefed up a tad)
Vehicles:
-Halo 2 Hog (Both Variants)
-Halo 3 Mongoose
-Halo Reach Falcon
-Halo 3 Hornet
-Halo 2 Banshee
-Halo 2 Ghost
-Halo 2 Wraith
-Halo 2 Scorpion
-Halo 2 Specter
-Halo 1 Rocket Hog
-Halo 2 Civie Hog (People have wanted to drive this thing since 2004)
-Halo 3 Elephant
-Halo 3 Chopper
Yeah, so just my thoughts. I think it would work well, but that is just me. Also a needler shotgun would be cool. It was a part of the Halo 2:CE mod that got some play on Xbox Connect back in the day, it aimed to make Halo 2 more like Halo 1.
Human Weapons:
-Halo 2 BR
-Halo 2 SMGs
-Halo 1 AR
-ODST Pistol
-Halo 2 Sniper (The scope on that was awesome)
-Halo 2 Rockets
-Halo: Reach Laser (It should only play a minor role like in Reach and should be nerfed a little more)
-Halo Reach Grenade Launcher
-Halo 1 Shotgun
-Halo 2 Mounted Machine Gun Turret (Non Removable)
-Halo 3 Turret (Already removed as a pick up weapon)
-Halo 1 Flamethrower
-Halo 2 Nade
Covenant Weapons:
-Halo 2 Needler
-Halo 2 Plasma Pistol
-Halo 1 Plasma Rifle (What the Plasma Repeater should have been, should return as the repeater)
-Halo 2 Fuel Rod Gun
-Halo 2 Beam Rifle
-Halo 2 Carbine
-Halo Reach Spiker
-Halo 2 Brute Shot
-Halo 2 Plasma Rifle
-Halo 2 Plasma Nade
-Halo 2 Sword
Forerunner:
-Halo 2 Sentinel Beam (Beefed up a tad)
Vehicles:
-Halo 2 Hog (Both Variants)
-Halo 3 Mongoose
-Halo Reach Falcon
-Halo 3 Hornet
-Halo 2 Banshee
-Halo 2 Ghost
-Halo 2 Wraith
-Halo 2 Scorpion
-Halo 2 Specter
-Halo 1 Rocket Hog
-Halo 2 Civie Hog (People have wanted to drive this thing since 2004)
-Halo 3 Elephant
-Halo 3 Chopper
Yeah, so just my thoughts. I think it would work well, but that is just me. Also a needler shotgun would be cool. It was a part of the Halo 2:CE mod that got some play on Xbox Connect back in the day, it aimed to make Halo 2 more like Halo 1.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Ramirez said:
What? I don't even.....*looks away*....
Nah I usually do try to preview but I still always screw something up. Damn that extra S. lol
Gabotron ES
Member
The cool spartan collage thing.Risen said:
ElRenoRaven
Member
neoism said:
Nah needs more. In fact I've been thinking. It needs to be explained that the FUD had an experimental one of those machines that can make anything you want. Like they had in was it Star Trek? I wanna say it was that show. Anyway Chief finds this and just starts ordering up everything in between missions. You could even hide blueprints on the levels that you have to collect to be able to make it. Level 1 should obviously include the Warthog and Needler blueprints. lol
Reagan's BR
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ElRenoRaven
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Karl2177 said:
Reagan's BR
Banned
I went away for a few days came back and there were forty something. Its crazy.Risen said:
RebornYeti
Member
I'm partial to the idea of getting an entirely new sandbox. Maybe have Human weapons and vehicles for the first few missions of the game, but once the Chief ventures away from FUD, I would like the human weapons and vehicles to disappear completely so we can only rely on what the aliens have to our disposal.
HiredN00bs
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fixedLetters said:
ElRenoRaven
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HAHAHAHAHA. That would actually be kind of funny to see.
OuterWorldVoice said:
HAHAHAHAHA. That would actually be kind of funny to see.