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Halo: Reach |OT6| There Are Those Who Said This Day Would Never Come
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Hydranockz
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85% seems the same as 100% lol.
ElRenoRaven
Member
GAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
A FUCKING SNIPER RIFLE SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TWO SHOT A VEHICLE.
A FUCKING SNIPER RIFLE SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TWO SHOT A VEHICLE.
They need to completely redo matchmaking for Halo 4. People need to play what they want to play.bobs99 ... said:
Also I need to say it again, the way they've handled the wait for the multiplayer ecosystem refresh on Nov15 has left a lot to be desired. The feel of uncertainty of what to expect is really annoying. This beta seems like it's only making it worst.
Can we please get some disclosure on the general layout of matchmaking from Nov15 forward and then save the details as surprises for later?
I honestly fist pumped when Frankie said no current gen remakes because The Pit would be safe from a legacy tainting Reach remake.Havok said:
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=23870783&player=Booshkawwm0nkey said:
Here is my version, very similar to the first one, with a few tweaks. Jump is lower and damage resistance is tweaked to nerf nades and rockets a bit, while also reducing some bleedthrough issues that were present on default damage. I suggest playing these on MLG maps, just remove the AA's, keep the powerups on. It'll play a little bit more like Halo 2 that way. The maps are also good for the speed and jump settings because they were designed with 110 jump in mind.
I might get on in a bit, been playing Dark Souls. Just started it, but liking it so far, haven't gotten murdered and reset yet, so maybe when that happens I'll take a break and play some Halo.
UnlovedJew
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I think 85 % feels a bit better, but zero bloom feels like true halo. Excluding the pistol because you do not even need to aim that thing in zero bloom. Still, this playlist is the most fun I've had in Halo in a while. Too bad that my two friends who are playing with me right now aren't very good. :/
Steelyuhas
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ncsuDuncan said:
Yes, I certainly did, my apologies. I got confused with your post talking about the 85% bloom. I still think they should be separate playlists, but that's mostly because I just want an Anniversary playlist all to itself.
Also, having one playlist not DLC required gets people without DLC a chance to play zero bloom goodness.
It was nice to put the Halo: Reach disc in and feel like I was playing Halo, not Reach. I felt like if I got the first shot off, I was going to win the duel unless the other guy is much, much better than I am.
The 85% is better than what we've been playing, but ZB is awesome. I would like to see some more in between, just to see if there is a middle ground that makes everything flow perfectly (good god the needle rifle is a beast with ZB).
The 85% is better than what we've been playing, but ZB is awesome. I would like to see some more in between, just to see if there is a middle ground that makes everything flow perfectly (good god the needle rifle is a beast with ZB).
Hypertrooper
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I played enough of matches to give a bit feedback now.
-Zero Bloom is a great gametype. It makes a lot of fun to play it. But I wish a few changes: Pistol should be handled as a power weapon. Like previous post said, spamming get you kills easily. The only AA should be sprint. Jetpack gives you a bit advantage and Armour lock. Forget that thing. :^( Give us some real TO gametypes please. :^( I only saw Neutral Assault once. :^(
- I can see a bit of changes with 85% bloom. But I'm just curious, is there a possibility to try out 75% bloom, 50% bloom etc.?
-Zero Bloom is a great gametype. It makes a lot of fun to play it. But I wish a few changes: Pistol should be handled as a power weapon. Like previous post said, spamming get you kills easily. The only AA should be sprint. Jetpack gives you a bit advantage and Armour lock. Forget that thing. :^( Give us some real TO gametypes please. :^( I only saw Neutral Assault once. :^(
- I can see a bit of changes with 85% bloom. But I'm just curious, is there a possibility to try out 75% bloom, 50% bloom etc.?
Devolution
Member
Anyone got room, feel like tryin' this travesty of justice (lol I kid) before I hit the design hw.
Hitmonchan107
Member
It feels good to finally play the definitive Halo game.
ncsuDuncan
Member
The playlist setup gets really complicated when you take into account the different map configurations players could have:
Reach Only
Reach + Noble
Reach + Defiant
Reach + Noble + Defiant
CEA Only
Reach + CEA
Reach + Noble + CEA
Reach + Noble + Defiant + CEA
Eight different configurations! Currently, any playlist that requires DLC needs both Noble and Defiant, so we can simplify:
Reach Only
Reach + Noble/Defiant
CEA Only
Reach + CEA
Reach + Noble/Defiant + CEA
Which still leaves us with five different configurations to accomodate.
What if the CEA Map Pack download for Reach included the Noble and Defiant maps? The maps wouldn't be a separate free download for anyone, they'd just be included in your purchase of the Classic Maps (either through XBL Marketplace or through the code in the CEA box). That would bring us down to four different setups
Reach Only
Reach + Noble/Defiant
CEA Only
Reach + Noble/Defiant/CEA
Then if you phase out the Reach + Noble/Defiant setup you could pare it down to just three configurations (and couldn't simplify it any further).
Reach Only
CEA Only
Reach + Noble/Defiant/CEA
It's a delicate balance of keeping the number of playlists within reason without locking DLC customers out of certain playlists because they only bought some of the DLC and not all of it.
But all of the Classic playlists should be DLC required, with Reach maps optional. Look at the old Team Classic playlist and take away High Noon, Hydra XIII, and Noble Creek. There isn't enough left to justify a playlist for people only using the Reach disc.
Reach Only
Reach + Noble
Reach + Defiant
Reach + Noble + Defiant
CEA Only
Reach + CEA
Reach + Noble + CEA
Reach + Noble + Defiant + CEA
Eight different configurations! Currently, any playlist that requires DLC needs both Noble and Defiant, so we can simplify:
Reach Only
Reach + Noble/Defiant
CEA Only
Reach + CEA
Reach + Noble/Defiant + CEA
Which still leaves us with five different configurations to accomodate.
What if the CEA Map Pack download for Reach included the Noble and Defiant maps? The maps wouldn't be a separate free download for anyone, they'd just be included in your purchase of the Classic Maps (either through XBL Marketplace or through the code in the CEA box). That would bring us down to four different setups
Reach Only
Reach + Noble/Defiant
CEA Only
Reach + Noble/Defiant/CEA
Then if you phase out the Reach + Noble/Defiant setup you could pare it down to just three configurations (and couldn't simplify it any further).
Reach Only
CEA Only
Reach + Noble/Defiant/CEA
It's a delicate balance of keeping the number of playlists within reason without locking DLC customers out of certain playlists because they only bought some of the DLC and not all of it.
Zero Bloom Slayer - 4v4 playlist, Reach disc required, DLC optional. Just like SWAT.Steelyuhas said:
But all of the Classic playlists should be DLC required, with Reach maps optional. Look at the old Team Classic playlist and take away High Noon, Hydra XIII, and Noble Creek. There isn't enough left to justify a playlist for people only using the Reach disc.
Hitmonchan107
Member
LMAO.Letters said:
I'm serious. This is what Reach should've been like from the beginning. I could see myself losing days of my life to the new-and-improved Reach. No joke.
Hypertrooper
Member
We MUST play Halo this weekend. I'm counting on YOU and DUNCAN.Hitmonchan107 said:
Devolution
Member
First map played on is Tempest. Sigh.
Hydranockz
Member
I'm ultimately enjoying Reach too. It's a good place to be.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Scratching Gaga lyrics into the disc will not solve bloom, I told you to wait for the TU!Sai-kun said:
The Librarian
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:lolZeouterlimits said:
Hypertrooper
Member
So guys. The sparkast revealed that there will be 3 BtS and a trailer for Halo: CEA(?). What do you guys want to see? Which content?
I'm hoping that one BtS deals with the creation of the Terminals. We have already seen two (unfortunately) but I would be happy to see how Sequence creates them.
I'm hoping that one BtS deals with the creation of the Terminals. We have already seen two (unfortunately) but I would be happy to see how Sequence creates them.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Hitmonchan107 said:
Please dont say that. 343 will think the quality bar really is this low lol. I will hand it to you that this is a ton better than defualt Reach but now please give us just one gametype that resembles the classic settings so we can give proper feedback. The numerous other problems with Reach are still there even if bloom is gone.
Got to say I love damage bleed through. Its awesome.
Steelyuhas
Member
Josh, sorry I didn't accept invite, we already had a group playing the first time, and now I have to go to class.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Hypertrooper said:So guys. The sparkast revealed that there will be 3 BtS and a trailer for Halo: CEA(?). What do you guys want to see? Which content?
I'm hoping that one BtS deals with the creation of the Terminals. We have already seen two (unfortunately) but I would be happy to see how Sequence creates them.
None. I'm going dark when it comes to Anniversary now. It's too close and I don't want to see the whole damn game before it comes out. I've already seen what two levels will look like and would like the rest to be a surprise.
ncsuDuncan
Member
I'll try to get on this weekend. No promises though; I'm staying at a friend's house but he does have an Xbox.Hypertrooper said:
wwm0nkey said:
Yeah, I think my TU2 wishlist right now in order of importance would be:
- Player momentum decrease/removal.
- Grenade nerf (either adjust damage independently of weapons, or adjust the fuse characteristics)
- Banshee nerf
- Vehicle damage adjustment
- Shield recharge delay for Classic.
- Bugfixes (Revenant headshot glitch, Gauss Hog Forge object glitch, etc.)
Lowest priority:
- RoF cap for zero bloom DMR.
- Fall damage removal option for Classic.
They already tarnished Lockout and Zanzibar. But yeah, I agree with that.Havok said:
Strongly curious what 343 decide to do with the CEA playlists. I do not want to go into Headlong 6v6 like Bungie had done with Premiums, and thus hasn't really allowed Highlands to live up to any potential.
Blue Ninja
Member
I still remember the days when everyone was in love with Tempest. *sniff*Devolution said:
Well, I tried 2 games, both with randoms, and both had quitters not even half way through the match, ugh. I'll give it another go tonight if any of my regular crew play it.
Gotta say though, not that impressed, but it's more of a Reach thing, than anything 343 tried to do to fix it. 85% feels slightly better, but it's still bloom, and it's still unsatisfying. You still move and jump like a turtle, the grenades are still too powerful, fall stun is lame, etc. etc.
Oh and Uncaged is still Uncaged, not even ZB can make that map fun. Kinda just got the feeling of the saying "you can't polish a turd", while playing those 2 games, honestly still don't see myself playing much of this until CEA hits with some good maps, and even then I'm not sure how long I'll last.
Oh and the melee is still 2 hits, I guess the Anniversary gametype at PAX was the 3 melee. Anyone know how many hits it takes before a melee will kill you? Coulda swore I took 2 shots earlier at full health/shields, and a melee killed me.
Gotta say though, not that impressed, but it's more of a Reach thing, than anything 343 tried to do to fix it. 85% feels slightly better, but it's still bloom, and it's still unsatisfying. You still move and jump like a turtle, the grenades are still too powerful, fall stun is lame, etc. etc.
Oh and Uncaged is still Uncaged, not even ZB can make that map fun. Kinda just got the feeling of the saying "you can't polish a turd", while playing those 2 games, honestly still don't see myself playing much of this until CEA hits with some good maps, and even then I'm not sure how long I'll last.
Oh and the melee is still 2 hits, I guess the Anniversary gametype at PAX was the 3 melee. Anyone know how many hits it takes before a melee will kill you? Coulda swore I took 2 shots earlier at full health/shields, and a melee killed me.
Hitmonchan107
Member
Honestly, I'm having more fun with 85 percent bloom than with zero bloom. I just hopped into Big Team Battle, and the difference between new bloom and old bloom is night and day.bobs99 ... said:
My bar for the title update was this: make Reach fun. For me, it's mission accomplished.
Stripper13
Member
Played a few matches of the beta playlist last night.
Uncaged is a piece of shit.
85% Slayer plays like normal slayer, except the DMR is a bit more consistent. Works well enough I guess, but doesn't feel very different.
Zero Bloom Slayer is amazing, until you come up against pistol spammers. Very annoying. At close-medium range, they might as well be firing the shotgun at you.
Team-shotting and long range killing has just become significantly more effective. Very frustrating when you cannot move on the map, because the DMR is so quick and accurate. Moving out behind cover for longer than 0.5 seconds is a death sentence against a decent team. It got to the point last night where I was effectively 'camping' an outdoor area on powerhouse, because as soon as I ventured near the main structures, or the power weapons, it was insta-death. I know that I was camping because a young man on XBL was kind enough to let me know that my parents had raised a sexually-confused camper, whilst commenting on my mother's promiscuity.
Can't say I'm enjoying the new playlists OR Reach at all, lately. But I'll keep at it.
Uncaged is a piece of shit.
85% Slayer plays like normal slayer, except the DMR is a bit more consistent. Works well enough I guess, but doesn't feel very different.
Zero Bloom Slayer is amazing, until you come up against pistol spammers. Very annoying. At close-medium range, they might as well be firing the shotgun at you.
Team-shotting and long range killing has just become significantly more effective. Very frustrating when you cannot move on the map, because the DMR is so quick and accurate. Moving out behind cover for longer than 0.5 seconds is a death sentence against a decent team. It got to the point last night where I was effectively 'camping' an outdoor area on powerhouse, because as soon as I ventured near the main structures, or the power weapons, it was insta-death. I know that I was camping because a young man on XBL was kind enough to let me know that my parents had raised a sexually-confused camper, whilst commenting on my mother's promiscuity.
Can't say I'm enjoying the new playlists OR Reach at all, lately. But I'll keep at it.
Devolution
Member
Ramirez said:
Without better movement, upping the kill times on the DMR feels almost worse in my opinion. And that pistol. Eugh.
Just played on Condemned. Might as well call that gametype Hide and Seek in 4v4.
Hypertrooper
Member
lol. that's old.TheOddOne said:
What? How can you miss it? It's in fucking everything and will continue being in almost everything for another year because people for some reason adore the feeling of the occasional burst of higher speed instead of constant high speed. Thanks COD.neoism said:I miss sprint too Frankie... You know what you must doo?