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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed

EazyB said:
Edit: And Cotton is a map-making genius.
This.

urk said:
It's a third person action shooter set in space featuring, wait for it, yellow forklifts and a warehouse full of crates.

And space sex.
Yeah, so Halo 3, but instead of going "to war" with Miranda, you just go "to bed." Skyboxes, fragile crates, and space forklifts all look better when you're getting space mouth jobs. Master Chief has been woefully "unemployed" for what, his whole life?
 

urk

butthole fishhooking yes
kylej said:
Yes look that industrial area has many unique assets to make it seem believable. If Bioware released a $10 expansion pack that had no story ties and thus gave them total creative freedom and they ended up stamping a bunch of boxes in a room I would criticize them too.

Don't forget about the forklifts.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
kylej said:
You will love ME2. It's a shooter with a few very simple RPG elements and a great story. You can run straight through the narrative and fling dudes into the air with your force powers then light them on fire with a flamethrower. Or you could spend 40 hours combing through every dialogue option and reading the massive amounts of universe backstory. Either way it's pretty streamlined and nothing like a clunky JRPG or baroque fantasy RPG. BUY MASS EFFECT 2.

k sold +1
 

urk

butthole fishhooking yes
kylej said:
If I don't see a forklift in the first Reach ViDoc I'm gonna be bummed. Maybe I'll start an online petition.

The entire game is made out of crates. Stand down.
 

Kapura

Banned
kylej said:
If I don't see a forklift in the first Reach ViDoc I'm gonna be bummed. Maybe I'll start an online petition.
ReachCampaign_m30_Env02.jpg

What's that in the spotlight?
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Forklifts are my favorite things to blow up in Halo 3; I can only hope that they've been taken up a notch in Reach. Probably why that one is out by its lonesome: it's packed with high explosives.
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
kylej said:
"Wasted opportunity" basically sums up every Halo campaign since CE. There are very few set pieces, the cutscenes are terrible and the levels are either ugly or linear to the point of banality. The story is always forgettable and the places the campaign takes you lack any poignancy. Bungie offers little exposition then expects people to take the death of minor characters seriously. Halo is an interstellar drama yet the character has to walk down drab highways every game. The much vaunted encounter system showed its age long ago. The opening minutes of Mass Effect 2 have more style, drama and maturity than the entirety of Halo 2 and 3.

As hilariously lame as both Halo Waypoint and Halo Anime are, I'm excited to see what 343 will do with the franchise. Bungie can build a brilliant underpinning for multi-player shooters but I haven't seen them do much else for nearly a decade.
Damn son. I don't completely agree, but you make some interesting points. Halo lacks a cinematic feeling. Bungie has never delivered the complete package. Gameplay wise though, all of Bungie games are heads and shoulders above the competition IMHO. I am also excited to see where things go with 343 though.
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
OuterWorldVoice said:
Is it seriously a shooter? If you are lying to me, I will find you, and I will go into your house while you sleep and I will pee in every drawer I find. And I will eat mad asparagus all night before I do.

ACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF RPG FOR OUTERWORLDVOICE: Link to the Past, BG2 Dark Alliance.

UNACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF RPG FOR OUTERWORLDVOICE: Everything north of Actraiser.
Yeah its a decent shooter (better than Gears Of War or Uncharted for example) with cool dialogue. Mass Effect 1 was also a shooter (a bad one) if you set all the leveling up elements to auto, but these were thankfully removed for the second game. You won't get any enjoyment out of the story if you play ME2 by itself though. All the context of the dialogue will get lost.
 
kylej said:
Sorry, when I see cool space environments in ME2 I can't help but wonder why I had to pay to play a multiplayer match in this

*boxes*

and

*boxes placed in a circle track*

this but at least those might be forgiven because they're human environments. Still confused why the penultimate Halo 3 level in an alien environment had to look like this

*cortanas anus*

The least you could do is place it in some sort of alien warehouse or maybe inside Cortana's ass.



Halo 3 Yellow Forklift Asset has saved my ass a few times on Standoff. Its appearance beside a staircase at the bottom of the world or wherever you were in the Virgil part of ODST is probably its funniest. Yellow Forklift Asset is one of the best Halo characters.

Damn i didnt notice that at all... Kinda sad.... But i still love halo's design.
 
Kapura said:
I couldn't finish a turducken in four days. But mass effect 2 is at least 165% of a game.

LMAO... i was going to say....

Kapura said:
* forklift in the center*
What's that in the spotlight?

well played.... well played indeed.

Botolf said:
Abducted as a six year-old and made to work hours that violated child labour laws.

UNSC = Jerks

One thing that is beyond me in the Haloverse is the spartans personality. The UNSC treated these kids like slaves and created elite super soldiers out of them.... then why do they have the personality of marines? Marines enlist, spartans are abused from childhood, there should be a difference in personality. And i would expect Kat and Carter to be really pale and pasty since spartans usually are wearing their helmets in the field. They shouldnt be "normal" they should be slightly psychotic and cutthroat efficient. The UNSC took kids and didnt allow them to grow up as regular people so they can create the perfect soldier *cough*cerberus*cough*
 

EazyB

Banned
godhandiscen said:
Damn son. I don't completely agree, but you make some interesting points. Halo lacks a cinematic feeling. Bungie has never delivered the complete package. Gameplay wise though, all of Bungie games are heads and shoulders above the competition IMHO. I am also excited to see where things go with 343 though.
Disregarding the things Kylej said about set-pieces, linearity, and encounters in Halo (things I think it does better than almost any other game); I do believe the story and storytelling in Halo has been shit. Seems like they're giving it more attention with mocap, the facial motion thing, and the handicam cinematic. Reach could be a huge step in this regard.

In the end I wouldn't really care if these things never improved as long as they kept pushing the gameplay elements that set the series apart but I'm sure it'll make a lot of other people happy.

And while ME2 does a much better job of character development, which is to be expected given that it's an RPG, I wouldn't place it's plot much higher than the shit we got with Halo 3. I actually thought it was much less interesting than ME1's and paced really poorly.
 

Flipyap

Member
kylej said:
this but at least those might be forgiven because they're human environments. Still confused why the penultimate Halo 3 level in an alien environment had to look like this

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The least you could do is place it in some sort of alien warehouse or maybe inside Cortana's ass.
What, what, what? Hating Cortana's level design, etc. makes perfect sense, but hating on the graphics?
It's the best-looking alien rectum level I've ever seen! (and I've seen plenty)
Except for the bits with simplistic matte painting backgrounds, the art design and graphics on that level are pretty darn great.
It's the prettiest level in Halo 3, and it's set in a gross, shapeless monstrosity's ass! That's quite an achievement.
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
EazyB said:
Disregarding the things Kylej said about set-pieces, linearity, and encounters in Halo (things I think it does better than almost any other game); I do believe the story and storytelling in Halo has been shit. Seems like they're giving it more attention with mocap, the facial motion thing, and the handicam cinematic. Reach could be a huge step in this regard.

In the end I wouldn't really care if these things never improved as long as they kept pushing the gameplay elements that set the series apart but I'm sure it'll make a lot of other people happy.
And while ME2 does a much better job of character development, which is to be expected given that it's an RPG, I wouldn't place it's plot much higher than the shit we got with Halo 3. I actually thought it was much less interesting than ME1's and paced really poorly.
Wow, are you sure you are playing Mass Effect 2 and not Gears of Wars 2? Because that's basically what you described, a lame shooter with a story worse than the one in Halo 3. I agree with the bolded. It would just be awesome to see Bungie getting some emotion out of me with their cutscenes. I mean, they have one of the best composers of our generation on their side, yet the storytelling feels so flat... whatever.
 

Nutter

Member
Just a FYI..

Live for the original Xbox and its games will no longer work after April 15. So get your Halo 2 games in before they shut it down.

Also ME2 > EazyB
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
kylej said:
The least you could do is place it in some sort of alien warehouse or maybe inside Cortana's ass.
Rich-Raven-ILL-BUY-IT-AT-A-HIGH-PRI.jpg


Nutter said:
Just a FYI..

Live for the original Xbox and its games will no longer work after April 15. So get your Halo 2 games in before they shut it down.
Microsoft just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about online multiplayer culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is the PS2 where nobody gives a shit about the old PSN. If you bring down LIVE for the OG Xbox, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the Halo 2 players, after hearing about this, are not going to want to purchase Halo Reach, nor will they purchase any of 343's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Microsoft has alienated an entire market with this move.

Microsoft, publicly apologize and keep LIVE for the OG Xbox or you can kiss your business goodbye.
 

Thermite

Member
Nutter said:
Live for the original Xbox and its games will no longer work after April 15. So get your Halo 2 games in before they shut it down.

'Tis sadtimes. Gonna have to get in some farewell games...
 

Sai-kun

Banned
godhandiscen said:
Rich-Raven-ILL-BUY-IT-AT-A-HIGH-PRI.jpg



Microsoft just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about online multiplayer culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is the PS2 where nobody gives a shit about the old PSN. If you bring down LIVE for the OG Xbox, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the Halo 2 players, after hearing about this, are not going to want to purchase Halo Reach, nor will they purchase any of 343's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Microsoft has alienated an entire market with this move.

Microsoft, publicly apologize and keep LIVE for the OG Xbox or you can kiss your business goodbye.

All..
Halo 2 on Xbox Live
Players Online:213
Unique Players (Last 24 Hours):3,594
Matches Logged (Last 24 Hours):5,849

3,594 of them?
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Sai-kun said:
All..
Halo 2 on Xbox Live
Players Online:213
Unique Players (Last 24 Hours):3,594
Matches Logged (Last 24 Hours):5,849

3,594 of them?
The meme is old and it means that I don't give a crap. It is sad, but what can you do?
 

EazyB

Banned
Ramirez said:
Eazy's ME2 hate is out of control, game is amazing, stafoo sir.
Instead of continuing to derail I'll just post my little review I wrote up in a more appropriate thread and link to it.

ME2 Thoughts

Not the first time my views on a AAA game have differed from the main consensus (Fallout 3 and AC2 come to mind).

Sai-kun said:
All..
Halo 2 on Xbox Live
Players Online:213
Unique Players (Last 24 Hours):3,594
Matches Logged (Last 24 Hours):5,849

3,594 of them?
3.6k is pretty impressive for midweek numbers. More than 10% of the ODST numbers. I can guarantee you weekly numbers are more than 10k unique players. Seems pretty shitty that they're doing this but it could (I hope) be for a better reason than saving money on servers.
 

Apath

Member
EazyB said:
Instead of continuing to derail I'll just post my little review I wrote up in a more appropriate thread and link to it.

ME2 Thoughts

Not the first time my views on a AAA game have differed from the main consensus (Fallout 3 and AC2 come to mind).
Flight Suit Elites are ugly.
 

EazyB

Banned
Kenak said:
Flight Suit Elites are ugly.
Seems like our viewpoints on things differ quit a bit.

I know I sport flight because I think they're the most badass things to grace Halo and don't look goofy in the least.

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JaggedSac

Member
Poor MS and their backwards compatibility woes. They have them for Windows, and they have them for Live. Remove stuff in order to move forward and people will bitch. But then people will bitch because their OS does not move forward or is clogged up with fat. They are most likely wanted to remove original Live games due to some infrastructure limitation.
 

ShinAmano

Member
Sort of off topic, but I watched Halo Legends last night...can i have that time back? (Two of the Eight were ok.)

Reach is looking awesome.
 
Blueblur1 said:
There's always Halo 2 Vista. But it doesn't have Tombstone and Desolation. :(

Or a more than 50 people online at any single time (that I've encountered anyway). The only games I ever see are Multi Flag 8v8 Coagulation. With a 150+ ping (As expected, not living in Amurrica)
 

Gui_PT

Member
BladedExpert said:
Or a more than 50 people online at any single time (that I've encountered anyway). The only games I ever see are Multi Flag 8v8 Coagulation. With a 150+ ping (As expected, not living in Amurrica)


I see your post, but I don't see a link to your stream.

What does this mean?
 

RdN

Member
Pulling the plug from Halo 2 just feels wrong.. I understand that the original Live has been capping the actual service.. but anyways.. Gonna redownload all the map packs (once again, I hate how they get corrupted by cache cleaning) and play some Halo 2.
 

feel

Member
Well, shit, I almost never played lately, but it was nice to have the option. These final Halo 2 matches will be so depressing. But if this improves current xbl, then I'm all for it. The hardcore can just use kai and xbc from now on I think. We should do customs for like every night the whole last week straight.
 

Kapura

Banned
godhandiscen said:
What this means is the Halo 2 players, after hearing about this, are not going to want to purchase Halo Reach, nor will they purchase any of 343's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Microsoft has alienated an entire market with this move..
That… doesn't follow in the slightest. MICROSOFT IS GOING TO STOP SUPPORTING LIVE FOR ORIGINAL XBOX TITLES. ALL OF THE HALO 2 PLAYERS WILL, THEREFORE, NEVER AGAIN BUY A HALO GAME. Because they enjoy a game, they won't buy more games in the series. Right. Personally, I wish they were keeping original xbox titles online, but if it ian't economically feasible, Microsoft has every right to shut it down.
 
Kapura said:
That… doesn't follow in the slightest. MICROSOFT IS GOING TO STOP SUPPORTING LIVE FOR ORIGINAL XBOX TITLES. ALL OF THE HALO 2 PLAYERS WILL, THEREFORE, NEVER AGAIN BUY A HALO GAME. Because they enjoy a game, they won't buy more games in the series. Right. Personally, I wish they were keeping original xbox titles online, but if it ian't economically feasible, Microsoft has every right to shut it down.

jesus christ. it's a meme.
 
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