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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed

SpudBud said:
Looks like a great evolution of the halo formula. Jet packs, Spartans vs Elites, even the assassinations are looking great. May 3rd can't come soon enough.

So is the BR basically confirmed to be gone? Won't bother me much since the DMR is obviously the superior weapon.
I'd say the chances of it being gone stand at about 99% at this point.

NullPointer said:
I get the feeling that jetpacks are just gravlifts with a cooldown.

Which is fine. They'd be more like JumpJets than JetPacks though.
Which is fucking awesome. Seriously, it's going to be so much fun to use jetpacks in Reach.
 
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I'm no Halo expert but ain't the weapon on this gif supposed to be the BR ?
 
Wow just watched the trailer. Jetpacks are ok, not sure how I feel about them. I saw a spartan doing a roll, so is a cover system in this game as well ?
 

raphier

Banned
-htownplaya- said:
Wow just watched the trailer. Jetpacks are ok, not sure how I feel about them. I saw a spartan doing a roll, so is a cover system in this game as well ?
I can't NEVER imagine spartans doing a roll. It's like I'm brain-fucked after that.
 

Olivero

Member
I'm going to step out on a limb and guess that the blocky letters we see saying things like, "May 3, 2010" are usable in forge for us to place for Machinima and stuffs.
 

Link069

Neo Member
All I really want is for the elites day in the sun. I would have played as them in the previous multiplayer if they weren't so darn easy to hit. I just hope that this multiplayer gives our rather newly designed friends a chance at some spotlight.
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
MagniHarvald said:
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Yeah, looks like Halo 3 :lol
When it comes to jaggies, it does to me. When you count the textures, particles effects and animations, the leap in quality is obvious.

Olivero said:
I'm going to step out on a limb and guess that the blocky letters we see saying things like, "May 3, 2010" are usable in forge for us to place for Machinima and stuffs.

WOW, it would be awesome.
 

Pete Rock

Member
Olivero said:
I'm going to step out on a limb and guess that the blocky letters we see saying things like, "May 3, 2010" are usable in forge for us to place for Machinima and stuffs.
^ yes, video editing software.
 

Olivero

Member
Pete Rock said:
^ yes, video editing software.

Well, think about it, we have theater, and forge, why not have them together? I could totally see bungie taking theater mode into a basic video editor.

To my knowledge Bungie has never placed text in gameplay like that before, why do it now?
 

Trasher

Member
Link069 said:
All I really want is for the elites day in the sun. I would have played as them in the previous multiplayer if they weren't so darn easy to hit. I just hope that this multiplayer gives our rather newly designed friends a chance at some spotlight.
wat
 

Magni

Member
Link069 said:
All I really want is for the elites day in the sun. I would have played as them in the previous multiplayer if they weren't so darn easy to hit. I just hope that this multiplayer gives our rather newly designed friends a chance at some spotlight.

You wanna play as an Elite, play in SWAT.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
I just woke up. This is just like finding out what Santa is bringing you on xmas. Gets you excited immediately and you forget that there's still a wait.

Great job with the trailer and the music is fantastic, a very good remix.
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Pete Rock said:
^ yes, video editing software.
No. The letters were rendered in engine. They shared the same resolution of the rest of the geometry and also were affected by a couple of lights.

Actually, the letters show the most jaggies, which made the low resolution very apparent.
letters.png
 

Magni

Member
Dani said:
I just woke up. This is just like finding out what Santa is bringing you on xmas. Gets you excited immediately and you forget that there's still a wait.

Great job with the trailer and the music is fantastic, a very good remix.

Uhm.. it's 7:30pm where you are, no? Is it always like this? :lol
 

Olivero

Member
godhandiscen said:
No. The letters were rendered in engine. They shared the same resolution of the rest of the geometry and also were affected by a couple of lights.

Actually, the letters show the most jaggies, which made the low resolution very apparent.
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The placement of the letters behind the cloaked spartan and they being distorted like everything else in the background also points to in engine, doesn't it?
 

Link069

Neo Member
MagniHarvald said:
You wanna play as an Elite, play in SWAT.

Its very unfortunate that elites can only afford to get away with playing in one game type. Whats the point of putting them in at all if everyone that is playing as a spartan wants to pick on the elites. Sounds like segregation to me and I'm all for sangheili rights. The way I see it is the elites have a right to play with the big boys and be treated like everyone else . . . FAIRLY.
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Olivero said:
The placement of the letters behind the cloaked spartan and they being distorted like everything else in the background also points to in engine, doesn't it?
Yeah, that is what I am trying to say. That the letters were rendered in engine, and were the first to made obvious the jaggies.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
So, the mêlée assassinations. They can be done from any direction, not just from behind right (ie, those guys decking it out in the shower)? Will you be able to just go into one during regular combat, such as if someone is in front of you but you're able to trigger the assassination before he takes you out?
 

Not a Jellyfish

but I am a sheep
godhandiscen said:
Yeah, that is what I am trying to say. That the letters were rendered in engine, and were the first to made obvious the jaggies.

I am pretty sure the least of Bungie's concerns were jaggies on those letters. :lol

Obviously an afterthought, and just thrown in without much consideration.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
MagniHarvald said:
Uhm.. it's 7:30pm where you are, no? Is it always like this? :lol

Pretty much. =P

Can't believe I missed the Youtube leak this morning, barely a few minutes before I hit the hay. Waking up to a full 720p trailer however was a great way to see it first.
 

Not a Jellyfish

but I am a sheep
GhaleonEB said:
So, the mêlée assassinations. They can be done from any direction, not just from behind right (ie, those guys decking it out in the shower)? Will you be able to just go into one during regular combat, such as if someone is in front of you but you're able to trigger the assassination before he takes you out?

I sure hope not...they might as well put chainsaws on the end of every gun then cause that is pretty much what it would translate to.
 

urk

butthole fishhooking yes
The lettering was in engine. Not something that's natively supported, though. It's trailer hax.
 
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Deleted member 21120

Unconfirmed Member
urk said:
The lettering was in engine. Not something that's natively supported, though. It's trailer hax.
bungie supports multiplayer hax and glitching
 

NG28

Member
GhaleonEB said:
So, the mêlée assassinations. They can be done from any direction, not just from behind right (ie, those guys decking it out in the shower)? Will you be able to just go into one during regular combat, such as if someone is in front of you but you're able to trigger the assassination before he takes you out?

Maybe if they aren't from behind you have to stun them first. It's been two melee hits to kill someone from the side or the front in the past. Maybe once you get the first hit you can choose to assassinate or melee them again.
 
Link069 said:
Its very unfortunate that elites can only afford to get away with playing in one game type. Whats the point of putting them in at all if everyone that is playing as a spartan wants to pick on the elites. Sounds like segregation to me and I'm all for sangheili rights. The way I see it is the elites have a right to play with the big boys and be treated like everyone else . . . FAIRLY.
True, however, I'm interested to see if Bungie actually balances the differences between the two species on the battlefield. It doesn't necessarily make sense for them to have the same exact capabilities, and I'd like that to be shown this time around.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Not a Jellyfish said:
I sure hope not...they might as well put chainsaws on the end of every gun then cause that is pretty much what it would translate to.
Yeah. I'm picturing guys dancing around each other holding down mêlée, waiting to see who triggers it first. Do not want. I can't imagine that's in, but the forward facing stuff has me wondering what's up.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
urk said:
The lettering was in engine. Not something that's natively supported, though. It's trailer hax.

There goes my hope of inserting memorised cutscene dialogue via Forge into maps for dramatic effect. :lol
 
There is a huge difference in this area as opposed to the open spaces they showed. I really hope those other stages look as good as this. Urk, any insight as to the difference between the grassy area and the area we were shown the most of? because this part of the video looked amazing.

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InvincibleAgent said:

LMAO looks like he was doing some capoeira hand movement

EDIT: did anyone else notice that mini buble shield/ anti splatter armor ability @ 00:20?
 
GhaleonEB said:
Yeah. I'm picturing guys dancing around each other holding down mêlée, waiting to see who triggers it first. Do not want. I can't imagine that's in, but the forward facing stuff has me wondering what's up.
Yep, it's gonna be Gears 1 all over again.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Yeah. I'm picturing guys dancing around each other holding down mêlée, waiting to see who triggers it first. Do not want. I can't imagine that's in, but the forward facing stuff has me wondering what's up.

Oh god no, Elites having that roll ability makes it even more Gears like :lol
 

Louis Wu

Member
Syracuse022 said:
Nah - they were actually objects put into the maps for the filming... but I'd be really, really, REALLY surprised if they were still there in the shipping product.

(I think it's frickin' hilarious, though, that low-res models tossed in for the sake of a movie at the last minute are being used as evidence that Reach will be full of jaggies. :lol :lol )
 

Chrange

Banned
InvincibleAgent said:

I hope they match up that final arm pose in the assassination to the idle pose - the jump between the two is pretty jarring. No, before someone freaks out, it's not a major issue...but it is a relatively easy fix.
 

Proelite

Member
Known Load-outs:
Sprint
Active-camo
Jet Pack
Personal Bubbleshield
Radar Jammer

Speculative Load-outs:
EMP burst (activating would disable all shields, equipments, missles, and vehicles in an AOE, including the user, I call it the great equalizer.)
Medic Backpack (healing AOE)
Strength Boost??? (Harder melee, jump higher)
Smoke bombs??? (Ninja retreat)
 

EazyB

Banned
Link069 said:
Its very unfortunate that elites can only afford to get away with playing in one game type. Whats the point of putting them in at all if everyone that is playing as a spartan wants to pick on the elites. Sounds like segregation to me and I'm all for sangheili rights. The way I see it is the elites have a right to play with the big boys and be treated like everyone else . . . FAIRLY.
Once you get good enough at the game people will actually complain that elites offer an advantage in regular gametypes.

I really hope there's more depth to being an elite than shown in the trailer. It looked like all they can do is roll, no custimization, no perks like the jetpack. The rolling seems incredibly useless as well. Sure you can dash across a doorway or something but it's not something an animation a decent player would want to get caught in during a competitive match and with Halo's crazy melee lunges you'd just get beaten to hell in the process anyways.
 
GhaleonEB said:
So, the mêlée assassinations. They can be done from any direction, not just from behind right (ie, those guys decking it out in the shower)? Will you be able to just go into one during regular combat, such as if someone is in front of you but you're able to trigger the assassination before he takes you out?

I don't think so, If you look, it seems like that assassination is halfway over when we see one spartan gut punching the other. My money is on, this is an elaborate animation that we are just seeing the second half of.
 
urk said:
The lettering was in engine. Not something that's natively supported, though. It's trailer hax.
I am quite curious why you would axe it from the final build of the game if it is already in the game... working quite well.

I imagine machinima folks would love you forever if you kept it.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
Folks should calm down about small issues such as animation transitions, this is all early footage, and this is the sort of content that gets tweaked.

Dancing Spartans are lulz worthy.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
electricpirate said:
I don't think so, If you look, it seems like that assassination is halfway over when we see one spartan gut punching the other. My money is on, this is an elaborate animation that we are just seeing the second half of.
That makes sense.
Devin Olsen said:
I am quite curious why you would axe it from the final build of the game if it is already in the game... working quite well.

I imagine machinima folks would love you forever if you kept it.
Heck, just make'm Forge objects.
 
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