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[Syracuse022]

The (obviously non-remixed version of the) track from the trailer:
Office of Naval Intelligence: Uphill Both Ways

Well, you can be saved from an assassination. They said so in the beardcast. It would be silly for you to start respawning before you die.

I foresee epic saved films of last-second snope rescues.

 

[Dirtbag]

I think the asthetics of the jet pack leave a lot to be desired.
I like the idea that you can see it on the player, but that is a really lame looking design.

 

[JaggedSac]

So if the assassination animation is optional, how do respawn times work? If it takes 3 seconds for me to be stabbed, my respawn clock better start ticking down from 7 seconds. Otherwise it'll take about 2 hours for people to tire of the animation and then everyone will exploit it for longer respawns.

Well, both players will be inoperable while it lasts so it cancels out.

 

[Kapura]

Well, you can be saved from an assassination. They said so in the beardcast. It would be silly for you to start respawning before you die.

 

[Smokey]

My God

I was in the middle of finishing up homework that i've put off for this clas in 1 hr.

This video just destroyed any hope of that getting finished



edit: i just noticed in the avy i have. What's with the red spartans left arm spazzing out (texture swap)? :lol

 

[Trasher]

Well, both players will be inoperable while it lasts so it cancels out.

.

 

[dilatedmuscle]

To be fair this trailer is showing alpha footage, if you rewatch the H3 multiplayer trailer they used H2 textures! The Pit looked horrible :lol

Theyre definatly further along with Reach than they where at this time during development for H3, and im guessing things still need a visual upgrade.

Yeah thats what im assuming. You can see the graphics change a lot from map to map. the map with all the greenery looks amazing.

 

[Trasher]

I think the asthetics of the jet pack leave a lot to be desired.
I like the idea that you can see it on the player, but that is a really lame looking design.

I thought this too. Looks pretty ugly imo.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Now that I've drooled over the HD version, the graphics are really looking sharp. Two details that I liked:

When the generator blows up, it doesn't just disappear in an explosion: that thing is blown to smithereens, raining debris like mad.

The other is the new shield damage. It was talked about in one of the podcast, IIRC, how Bungie wanted the new effect to highlight but not obscure the player behind the shield flaring. Looks pretty awesome - and should look great in night time scenes. I mistook it for an overshield the first time through.

So absurdly hyped right now. I played Halo 3 MP non-stop for two years straight. The grip this game will have on my balls already hurts.

Edit: sorry for the huge pics there, meant to resize. Done now.

 

[Prophet Steve]

Is it certain that the animation is optional? I thought you could just regular melee, but if you do that from behind it's not a one hit. To one hit him, you have to do the animation but then you are vulnerable.

 

[Major Williams]

:lol @ Ghaleon - grip on your balls? Sounds painful, but she is a feisty lass.

This new dodge ability I hope it stays. I love it already - as long as it is balanced.

There was more than one color Spartan, and Bungie has already said that you can bring your Spartan from campaign into multiplayer. I wonder, does this mean we can color the armor of our Spartan IN the campaign? Sweet if so.

Edit: Also, @1:25, Grav hammer is confirmed. Looks like the same exact model as Halo 3 (kind of disappointed)

 

[GhaleonEB]

Is it certain that the animation is optional? I thought you could just regular melee, but if you do that from behind it's not a one hit. To one hit him, you have to do the animation but then you are vulnerable.

Confirmed to be optional, it was discussed in the last podcast. It's an optional flourish move, regular melee from behind is still a one-hit kill.

 

[Blueblur1]

So absurdly hyped right now. I played Halo 3 MP non-stop for two years straight. The grip this game will have on my balls already hurts.

Holy shit. I think Ghaleon's hyped, guys. :lol :lol

 

[godhandiscen]

The graphics look awesome, but can somebody confirm that the MP is running at a higuer resolution than Halo 3? I am looking at jaggies and the resolution certainly looks lesser than that of the campaign.

Like this pic for example, the jaggies look like those in Halo 3. I am not a pixel counter though, so maybe I am wrong and I am remembering Halo 3 looking way better than it did.

 

[kylej]

Yeah but it gives an extra pause. If I can add 3 seconds to the respawn of an enemy while my team grabs the flag I'll do it every time, even if it temporarily keeps me out of the picture.

I hope Shishka (lol) is working on the playlists right now. Everything in that video looks fun for a BTB game but not for 4v4. Matchmaking is going to have to be carefully managed with all these new options available

 

[Trasher]

Yeah but it gives an extra pause. If I can add 3 seconds to the respawn of an enemy while my team grabs the flag I'll do it every time, even if it temporarily keeps me out of the picture.

I hope Shishka (lol) is working on the playlists right now. Everything in that video looks fun for a BTB game but not for 4v4. Matchmaking is going to have to be carefully managed with all these new options available

Ah I see what you mean. That's a good point. If the animation takes 3 or 4 seconds then you keep that guy disabled that much longer and prevent him from going into his respawn timer. But then again it's not a guaranteed kill if you are vulnerable. You risk getting yourself killed if your opponent has teammates around.

The graphics look awesome, but can somebody confirm that the MP is running at a higuer resolution than Halo 3? I am looking at jaggies and the resolution certainly looks lesser than that of the campaign.


Like this pic for example, the jaggies look like those in Halo 3. I am not a pixel counter though, so maybe I am wrong and I am remembering Halo 3 looking way better than it did.

I think it's quite pointless to debate on this sort of stuff when at the bottom of the footage it says "Alpha Build". =/

 

[Grady Durden]

So if the assassination animation is optional, how do respawn times work? If it takes 3 seconds for me to be stabbed, my respawn clock better start ticking down from 7 seconds. Otherwise it'll take about 2 hours for people to tire of the animation and then everyone will exploit it for longer respawns.

Good point...

 

[broony]

Elite rolls could be a mechanism to counteract their massive size and their increased likelyhood to be headshotted. They could take one then roll to avoid the second. Maybe they aren't able to be registered as headshotted while rolling. Hopefully there is some sort of reload period otherwise people are going to be rolling all over the place.

 

[SpudBud]

Looks like a great evolution of the halo formula. Jet packs, Spartans vs Elites, even the assassinations are looking great. May 3rd can't come soon enough.

So is the BR basically confirmed to be gone? Won't bother me much since the DMR is obviously the superior weapon.

 

[JaggedSac]

Yeah but it gives an extra pause. If I can add 3 seconds to the respawn of an enemy while my team grabs the flag I'll do it every time, even if it temporarily keeps me out of the picture.

I hope Shishka (lol) is working on the playlists right now. Everything in that video looks fun for a BTB game but not for 4v4. Matchmaking is going to have to be carefully managed with all these new options available

That would only work if no one on the other team is around. In which case you would be killed if anyone else was around, and then the flag carrier killed, while you could have just tapped him and then killed the other guy. It is either a good thing or a bad thing depending on the situation. Learning when to use it and when not to use it is just another tool for the tool belt.

 

[dilatedmuscle]

I thought this too. Looks pretty ugly imo.

Yeah, i agree. It looks awkward as if it doesnt fit in the Haloverse. If enough of us complain about it, they will prolly change it lol.

 

[bobs...onGaf]

Elite rolls could be a mechanism to counteract their massive size and their increased likelyhood to be headshotted. They could take one then roll to avoid the second. Maybe they aren't able to be registered as headshotted while rolling. Hopefully there is some sort of reload period otherwise people are going to be rolling all over the place.

Halo of War :lol - That roll effect does remind me a lot of the roll from Gears and I hope it doesnt play like it does in Gears.

Im more interested in the control scheme, I just dont see how roll could fit in anywhere :lol

 

[Flipyap]

I think the asthetics of the jet pack leave a lot to be desired.
I like the idea that you can see it on the player, but that is a really lame looking design.

I actually thought the design was pretty cool when I finally saw it in HD (really nice details), but the way its color clashes with the armor is really jarring. It looks as if someone was mixing random action figure parts.

 

[NullPointer]

Halo of War :lol - That roll effect does remind me a lot of the roll from Gears and I hope it doesnt play like it does in Gears.

No worries. I'm sure it will work more like Perfect Dark Zero ;P

And people calling this Halo: Tribes make me smile a jackass grin. I always wanted a jetpack, just never thought I would actually see it implemented. Jetpacks AND destroying generators? Day -1 for me.

 

[godhandiscen]

I think it's quite pointless to debate on this sort of stuff when at the bottom of the footage it says "Alpha Build". =/

I have never seen the resolution increase from Alpha build. That is one of the things you lock in early, or maybe even drop down as you want to fit more things into the game. Bungie promised a much sharper game though, so I would feel a bit betrayed. the only reason why I care is because Halo Reach is most likely the only game I will play for a year or two, much like Halo 3.

 

[Spasm]

It looks like Robocop's snap-on jetpack.

Anyhow, the bigger the better (for shooting them down), imo. I fucking HATE Drones in H2/H3/ODST... Now we've got player controlled Drones. :/

 

[Syracuse022]

Elite rolls could be a mechanism to counteract their massive size and their increased likelyhood to be headshotted. They could take one then roll to avoid the second. Maybe they aren't able to be registered as headshotted while rolling. Hopefully there is some sort of reload period otherwise people are going to be rolling all over the place.

Nah man, hopefully not. How satisfying would it be to snipe an elite mid-roll? Sticking an elite just before a roll would probably lead to some pretty hilarious physics/animation too.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I have never seen the resolution increase from Alpha build. That is one of the things you lock in early, or maybe even drop down as you want to fit more things into the game. Bungie promised a much sharper game though, so I would feel a bit betrayed. the only reason why I care is because Halo Reach is most likely the only game I will play for a year or two, much like Halo 3.

I thought someone did the analysis of the vidoc footage and found it was at a higher resolution than Halo 3? I don't pay tons of attention to that stuff but I thought it was confirmed based on that footage, at least.

As to image quality - which is what I'm more concerned about, and can change from alpha status - I can't really tell from the video. Looks okay I think? I'll wait for the Beta to really comment.

Nah man, hopefully not. How satisfying would it be to snipe an elite mid-roll? Sticking an elite just before a roll would probably lead to some pretty hilarious physics/animation too.

Mobility didn't look too high in the flying segments - as long as movement speed is at normal levels, it should be fine. Drones were both small and quick, Spartans look to be neither.

 

[Trasher]

JETPACK DESIGN!

 

[bobs...onGaf]

Nah man, hopefully not. How satisfying would it be to snipe an elite mid-roll? Sticking an elite just before a roll would probably lead to some pretty hilarious physics/animation too.

:lol That would be awesome.

Brings up what would happen if the Elite rolled into a mancannon, or rolled over a ledge. The animation has the potential to be badass.

As far as the Jetpack goes, if its limited to just up/ down movement I dont see it being good offensivly, would lead to some epic DMR battles if you could strafe mid air though :lol

 

[godhandiscen]

I thought someone did the analysis of the vidoc footage and found it was at a higher resolution than Halo 3? I don't pay tons of attention to that stuff but I thought it was confirmed based on that footage, at least.

As to image quality - which is what I'm more concerned about, and can change from alpha status - I can't really tell from the video. Looks okay I think? I'll wait for the Beta to really comment.

Mobility didn't look too high in the flying segments - as long as movement speed is at normal levels, it should be fine. Drones were both small and quick, Spartans look to be neither.

That's the thing, the SP in the vidoc looked better with regards to image quality, whereas this video looks worse. It is possible (though very unlikely) that they are using two different resolutions. I wish this video had not released so early, its just too cruel. However, Bungie only unveils little chunks at a time. If all these changes represent just a little chunk, then there might still be more radical and awesome changes.


Also, "image quality" in graphics whore jive is ussually the term coined for the output of the resolution + anti aliasing + antisotropic filtering. Those things hardly ever change since they get locked after the initial performance tests in the engine. However Bungie will still add tons of awesome textures, lights and effects to the game, so the visual appeal will be vastly improved between now and the final release.

 

[JaggedSac]

That's the thing, the SP in the vidoc looked better with regards to image quality, whereas this video looks worse. It is possible (though very unlikely) that they are using two different resolutions. I wish this video had not released so early, its just too cruel. However, Bungie only unveils little chunks at a time. If all these changes represent just a little chunk, then there might still be more radical and awesome changes.

I am quite certain that this is a little nugget of what they have for Reach. There are bigger announcements ahead.

 

[Grimm Fandango]

Quick, someone put a "stfu" on this gif:lol

 

[godhandiscen]

I am quite certain that this is a little nugget of what they have for Reach. There are bigger announcements ahead.

Yeah. I wonder what else is so radically different that can be considered a more delicate topic than the addition of jetpacks.

 

[Spasm]

lolhalo.gif

:lol :lol

 

[feel]

I just can't get enough of this vid. Everything is so beautiful. Knowing how much I already love Halo 3, Halo Reach for me seems just so far ahead of everything else out there.

Bunch of slowed down gifs, because they're awesome to look at over and over.

Warning: this post goes on forever and will probably kill you pc. Sorry about that.

all the new effects look amazing.

 

[InvincibleAgent]

without the lol halo:

 

[Merguson]

Video looks good but jetpacks look lame. Guess we'll see how things work out in the beta.

 

[NullPointer]

I get the feeling that jetpacks are just gravlifts with a cooldown.

Which is fine. They'd be more like JumpJets than JetPacks though.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I get the feeling that jetpacks are just gravlifts with a cooldown.

Which is fine. They'd be more like JumpJets than JetPacks though.

Aye. They look to me to be similar to what the Brutes had in Halo 3.

 

[backflip10019]

I get the feeling that jetpacks are just gravlifts with a cooldown.

Which is fine. They'd be more like JumpJets than JetPacks though.

Still, does multiplayer really need that? Seems kind of gimmicky.

 

[Falagard]

nm

 

[Nutter]

The part where they decided to blur out the game messeges says the following..

"[player] struck first"
"[player] killed [player]"

Why would they blur that ?

 

[godhandiscen]

I get the feeling that jetpacks are just gravlifts with a cooldown.

Which is fine. They'd be more like JumpJets than JetPacks though.

You can clearly see the user can maneuver to the sides using the jetpack. Obviously it will have a cooldown, but they look so awesome. Also, pretty sure that your freedom in the air will be limited, so you would theoretically be an easy target. The new gameplay possibilities are fucking endless!

 

[NullPointer]

Still, does multiplayer really need that? Seems kind of gimmicky.

I dunno. No more gimmicky than gravlifts in general.

Looks like fun though

Speaking of fun, I'd love to know more about Invasion.

 

[clashfan]

I want custom paint jobs.

 

[LunaticPuma]

The particle effects in the game are amazing. They add so much detail.

 

[InvincibleAgent]

 

[FFChris]

Everything I see I like, can't say anything more than that.

I just hope the maps are up to scratch. My entire experience with the MP in this game will probably hinge on its maps.

 

[Grimm Fandango]

The part where they decided to blur out the game messeges says the following..

"[player] struck first"
"[player] killed [player]"

Why would they blur that ?

Probably so watchers won't spam the players "omg send me an alpha invite".

edit: nvm you can clearly see some player names.