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[Kapura]

So, urk puts up the trailer and thinks he deserves a break, so he doesn't update the news feed?

Well, ok, fine. As long as there is a podcast incoming...

 

[bobs...onGaf]

Man, I can't wait to destroy all of you in the Reach Beta, it's gonna be so awesome.

:lol

I would love to have Beta Customs, I doubt we will get that option, but I know a few people who are already trash talking about who's going to be best at Reach, would love to put em in theyre place in May

Spoiler

That wasnt directed at you btw, but would still love some Beta Reach Gaf customs

What, the sniper in Eazy's pic was at 5x zoom, yet this didnt seem to make much difference in the video, perhaps all the maps are huge and everythings been scaled up, not liking that.

 

[Slightly Live]

I'm tired of people bringing this up over and over again. Maybe you should update the OP with the new known/confirmed info Ghal.

I know I'm not Ghal but I'll update the OP shortly with a Beta FAQ when the smoke has cleared from this bomb drop. =)

 

[Dirtbag]

You've been watching too much football!

Would definitely give me reason to use sprint instead of jetpack. Can't wait to go ballistic with the hammer and sprint.
Capture the flag + Sprint gonna be sweet.

Admit it though, trucking someone with a sprinting spartan would be fucking sweet.
Doesn't need to 1-hit kill them or anything, just knock them shieldless and backwards a bit. Maybe even allow a vehicle melee / sprint / dash attack that would knock a warthog/non-dashing ghost around.

 

[electricpirate]

I wonder if you are going to use the Halo2 control scheme if available? I know i would :O

Anywho.. Default > Bumper Jumper.. Even with these jetpacks.. Bring it.

Bumper Jumper > all

One thing about jet packs, once I start using it, will it have to deplete in one go, or will I be able to feather it to control how high I go?

 

[Cerilli]

. Maybe even allow a vehicle melee / sprint / dash attack that would knock a warthog/non-dashing ghost around.

I was just going to say that.

It would be pretty awesome to be able to sprint at a Warthog and body check it off a cliff.

 

[Dirtbag]

Oh god, imagine if my theoretical sprint/melee dash was in campaign.
How awesome would it be to truck grunts or even 2 or 3 at a time.
Obviously you'd have to time your strike, and get them close together. I can already see the achievment "STRIKE!"
Just bowl a group over!

 

[Jironimo]

There's a bunch of weird waypoints throughout the video...

I pointed some of these out earlier, but if you really look there are a lot in there. There are different shapes, icons in the shapes, colors outside of red/blue (orange).

I know I'm not Ghal but I'll update the OP shortly with a Beta FAQ when the smoke has cleared from this bomb drop. =)

My bad man, I have to stop assuming it's always Ghaleon. Yeah it'd be good to have all the new stuff in there, that way we can just tell people to look at the OP when they bring up the same stuff over and over again.

 

[Dirtbag]

I was just going to say that.

It would be pretty awesome to be able to sprint at a Warthog and body check it off a cliff.

I think I'd almost be disappointed now if this isn't in there. I'd love to ram a slowed warthog from the side and send it barrel-rolling sideways. Would be hilarious and awesome

I don't care/want it to blow up. Just knock it over. Very light damage, if any.

 

[Gui_PT]

Also, decapitations confirmed. They really are going for that darker tone:

This seems to fit better for some reason

 

[GhaleonEB]

It's not completely useless but in comparison to the plethora of abilities the spartans have, just having what boiles down to an extremely short-lived sprint is pretty lame. If that's how they plan to balance the elites vs spartans I'll be disappointed. Hopefully elites have a couple different abilities but based on the assumption that they're limited to a select few "Invasion" gametypes and probably not player-controlled in campaign, I can definitely see them being much less involved than the spartans in abilities and customization.

To be clear, I wasn't saying only Elites have it - I'm guessing Spartans do as well but we don't know - and I don't see where Elites can't use armor abilities, etc. One of the Elite HUD shots clearly has an unknown armor ability icon. I'm not sure we can draw much information about their differences other than physical size from the video. I do like that they're giving them unique roles in MP this time around, rather than trying to make them re-skinned Spartans as in the past.

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

I watched the trailer probably 30 times. The music was a real nice change of pace.
I cannot wait to try out sprint and jetpacks. Looks real smooth.

The only thing I hated was the waving arms! I will rejoice for 7 [bungie] years the day they either remove it or dramatically tone it down. Dead people don't move. That animation should only be used when FALLING to your death not "dying" in while the air or exploding.

 

[Dirtbag]

Also, something else I thought about from the Elites rolling thing.. I wonder if they have a higher/longer basic jump. In that first vidoc it looked like they had a much more agile leap then a spartan (as seen in that untextured jumping elite test). Would also make for a different play style in invasion when as an elite, something I would welcome.

 

[godhandiscen]

To be clear, I wasn't saying only Elites have it - I'm guessing Spartans do as well but we don't know - and I don't see where Elites can't use armor abilities, etc. One of the Elite HUD shots clearly has an unknown armor ability icon. I'm not sure we can draw much information about their differences other than physical size from the video. I do like that they're giving them unique roles in MP this time around, rather than trying to make them re-skinned Spartans as in the past.

Sprint is in there. It is the ability showed by the Green Spartan on the right at 00:14. Also, if you guys think that Sprint is a lame ability, then wait until you play MW2. Sprint is the most overpowered POS ability ever.

 

[Dirtbag]

Sprint is in there. It is the ability showed by the Green Spartan on the right at 00:14. Also, if you guys think that Sprint is a lame ability, then wait until you play MW2. Sprint is the most overpowered POS ability ever.

Alot of that has to do with it's implementation.
I think a longer cool down period, and shorter duration would fix alot of that.

 

[Cerilli]

I think I'd almost be disappointed now if this isn't in there. I'd love to ram a slowed warthog from the side and send it barrel-rolling sideways. Would be hilarious and awesome

I don't care/want it to blow up. Just knock it over. Very light damage, if any.

Awesome! Now imagine 4 of your teammates smashing the same warthog at the same time.

Oh man...

I don't want to get my hopes up, especially since we've seen no evidence of anything like that being in the game, but it definitely sounds like it would lead to a lot of awesomeness.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I'm tired of people bringing this up over and over again. Maybe you should update the OP with the new known/confirmed info Ghal.

I'll get right on that.

Sprint is in there. It is the ability showed by the Green Spartan on the right at 00:14. Also, if you guys think that Sprint is a lame ability, then wait until you play MW2. Sprint is the most overpowered POS ability ever.

I was talking about rolling, not sprinting.

 

[FFChris]

Has anyone been speculating on what the blurred out text 20 seconds into the video says?

Seems odd that nothing else is blurred out in the video, except for that. Glad to see Bungie has some tricks still up their sleeves.

 

[bobs...onGaf]

Bumper Jumper > all

One thing about jet packs, once I start using it, will it have to deplete in one go, or will I be able to feather it to control how high I go?

If you watch the trailer at 1.04 they show a guy jetpacking, they then show it from first person while he lands.
- The GUI shows that he stopped jetpacking halfway through his juice, that doesnt awnser anything though.

P.S Foxy Fox - The waving arm death animation has been there since Halo 1, if anything its nice to see it return just as a nostalgia thing, the first Halo game without the waving arms isnt a Halo game in my opinion :lol

 

[Dirtbag]

Has anyone been speculating on what the blurred out text 20 seconds into the video says?

Seems odd that nothing else is blurred out in the video, except for that. Glad to see Bungie has some tricks still up their sleeves.

Or somebody's name was explicit and they didn't want to have:
TAiNtLickR snipes TeaboBAgginS

 

[Tashi]

:lol

I would love to have Beta Customs, I doubt we will get that option, but I know a few people who are already trash talking about who's going to be best at Reach, would love to put em in theyre place in May

Spoiler

That wasnt directed at you btw, but would still love some Beta Reach Gaf customs

What, the sniper in Eazy's pic was at 5x zoom, yet this didnt seem to make much difference in the video, perhaps all the maps are huge and everythings been scaled up, not liking that.

I really do hope customs are included in the Reach beta and aren't some glitch. And yea, I'll probably be playing default settings. As long as I hit A to jump and B to beatdown, I'm all good.

 

[FFChris]

Or somebody's name was explicit and they didn't want to have:
TAiNtLickR snipes TeaboBAgginS

Well that's a lot less fun..

 

[Dirtbag]

I really do hope customs are included in the Reach beta and aren't some glitch. And yea, I'll probably be playing default settings. As long as I hit A to jump and B to beatdown, I'm all good.

Customs kind of defeat the intent of the beta. They want controlled tests.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Yeah. I'm picturing guys dancing around each other holding down mêlée, waiting to see who triggers it first. Do not want. I can't imagine that's in, but the forward facing stuff has me wondering what's up.

From what I have read you can actually get killed while doing an assassination, thus you (as a teammate) could also rescue someone from being assassinated. This leads me to believe it won't be people just holding "B."

Also, regular melees still work fine, you activate these special ones by holding the button.

 

[Trasher]

There's a bunch of weird waypoints throughout the video but this one seems to be over a weapon (looks like the vehicle needler) on the map that the person getting sniped was running for:

I think it may be the spawning point for the Spartans in the Invasion gametype that the Elites may have to possibly take over. Cool spawn bro?

Also, just caught this at 1:00. THREE PLOTS AM BACK

 

[Cerilli]

Has anyone been speculating on what the blurred out text 20 seconds into the video says?

Seems odd that nothing else is blurred out in the video, except for that. Glad to see Bungie has some tricks still up their sleeves.

There's also some blurred text above the green Spartan doing the assassination at 0:33, which I also assume is just some obscene or random gamertag they didn't want to show.

 

[Slightly Live]

Also, just caught this at 1:00. THREE PLOTS AM BACK

Can you explain? How does the scene, I'm assuming it the one with the camera panning around the Spartan standing the flag area whilst it changes from red to blue whilst the flag stays blue, suggest Three Plots?

*Haven't played much Halo 2 multiplayer

 

[EazyB]

To be clear, I wasn't saying only Elites have it - I'm guessing Spartans do as well but we don't know - and I don't see where Elites can't use armor abilities, etc. One of the Elite HUD shots clearly has an unknown armor ability icon. I'm not sure we can draw much information about their differences other than physical size from the video. I do like that they're giving them unique roles in MP this time around, rather than trying to make them re-skinned Spartans as in the past.

I think you missed my post on the bottom of the last page:

There are 5 instances where elites are rolling and here's the icon seen in every single first person perspective using elites:

Not once is there a spartan rolling nor does that icon ever show up in their first person view. Not only that but rolling is what elites do, their trademark maneuver. Sure it's not definitive but there's enough evidence to go beyond "jumping to conclusions."

I too think elites should play very differently but I don't want them to be a fraction as deep as the spartans just because they'll be used a fraction of the time. Like I said, from a armor ability and aesthetic customization perspective the trailer shows plenty of it for spartans and none for elites. Definitely subject to change but everything in the video supports this concern.

 

[kylej]

some comments:
i dont like the art style in most of the environments, too brown and rough like crows nest.. just not a very pretty place to fight

Yeeeup. Enough rusty pipes and slabs of concrete. Even if you want to place it in a war-torn environment there are better ways to do it than copy and paste some chunky brown geometry all over the place. That map looks like the artists just pulled all their human assets from Halo 3 and stuck them together.

The Pit & Valhalla = Good human environments. Blackout, Rat's Nest = Bad human environments

i dont like the lack of originality in covenant weapon design.. lets take a needler and mix it with a carbine!

The grenade launcher looks like it came from a rejected piece of BioShock concept art. The rest of it looks good. Spartans look sufficiently spartany. The increase in appearance customization is intriguing to me. Hope they show it off soon.

 

[Trasher]

Alright here's some images with things I caught in them or had questions on:

As this elite is doing his roll of the edge here I noticed something laying on the ground. Look under the head of the elite. Doesn't look like a gun. Jetpack maybe?

Bottom left. Wtf is that?

For this one I suggest you go to the video and check this out. There is this green light that hovers above the tank here. It looks like it could be someone perhaps jumping (or jetpacking) far off in the background with a charged plasma pistol, but I'm not sure. If it is someone jetpacking it looks like it might be an elite which would mean that elites can use jetpacks.

Just caught this: "Pull!" :lol This must be the medal for killing someone while they are jetpacking up in the air. Looks just like the jetpack icon, but with a skull on it of course.

Whatcha doing down there guy?

 

[DiabolicalBagel]

As this elite is doing his roll of the edge here I noticed something laying on the ground. Look under the head of the elite. Doesn't look like a gun. Jetpack maybe?

Looks like a Plasma Pistol to me.

<----Thanks, Spasm.

 

[Trasher]

Looks like a Plasma Pistol to me.

Seems too big. Hard to tell from that picture, but the distance is quite large meaning that object is bigger than you think. I had thought that initially though.

 

[bobs...onGaf]

Alright here's some images with things I caught in them or had questions on:

As this elite is doing his roll of the edge here I noticed something laying on the ground. Look under the head of the elite. Doesn't look like a gun. Jetpack maybe?

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/TJTrasher/doabarrelroll.png

For this one I suggest you go to the video and check this out. There is this green light that hovers above the tank here. It looks like it could be someone perhaps jumping (or jetpacking) far off in the background with a charged plasma pistol, but I'm not sure. If it is someone jetpacking it looks like it might be an elite which would mean that elites can use jetpacks.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/TJTrasher/greenlight.png

Ide say for that first pic its a Plasma Pistol and for the second the dude might just be standing on a ledge with a Fuel Rod, if Fuel Rods are finally in Multiplayer that will be amazing!

 

[EazyB]

Alright here's some images with things I caught in them or had questions on:

As this elite is doing his roll of the edge here I noticed something laying on the ground. Look under the head of the elite. Doesn't look like a gun. Jetpack maybe?

For this one I suggest you go to the video and check this out. There is this green light that hovers above the tank here. It looks like it could be someone perhaps jumping (or jetpacking) far off in the background with a charged plasma pistol, but I'm not sure. If it is someone jetpacking it looks like it might be an elite which would mean that elites can use jetpacks.

Plasma pistol

They show a banshe right before that clip. The PP is said to be buffed, but I don't think it'll start blowing up tanks.

Good catch on that 3 plots thing. Definitely seem like it's coming back or at least something really similar.

 

[Roche]

I cannot wait for this, I've watched the trailer about twenty times and now ever other game I play has one fatal flaw, its not Reach. I really hope Bungie keeps up a steady stream of details up to the beta or my head just might explode from hype.

 

[Trasher]

Plasma pistol

They show a banshe right before that clip. The PP is said to be buffed, but I don't think it'll start blowing up tanks.

Good catch on that 3 plots thing. Definitely seem like it's coming back or at least something really similar.

What? What does the banshee have to do with this? I was just wondering about the green light in the background (top middle, not mid left) that hovers around haha.

I fully understand that the banshee blows up the tank. I'm not talking about THAT green light.

 

[Chip N Chance]

So is the Jetpack something you pick up on the map? Because i see alot of people with them:lol .

 

[purg3]

Holy fuck the music is amazing.

 

[DiabolicalBagel]

Seems too big. Hard to tell from that picture, but the distance is quite large meaning that object is bigger than you think. I had thought that initially though.

Good point.
Fedit:What if the platform it's on is of higher elevation than the seat of the crane/whatever it is the Elite is rolling off of?
Looks to be, earlier in the video you can see both the object in question and a flight of steps. Unless these steps are massive, my money is on PP.

 

[Spasm]

Looks like a Plasma Pistol to me.

<----Thanks, Spasm.

NP.

A couple more avys up for grabs.

Edit: All spoken for.

 

[GhaleonEB]

What? What does the banshee have to do with this? I was just wondering about the green light in the background (top middle, not mid left) that hovers around haha.

I fully understand that the banshee blows up the tank. I'm not talking about THAT green light.

There was some discussion of that over at HBO. There's one frame where you can see through the explosion to the silhouette:

Looks like a Spartan in a jetpack.

Just caught this: "Pull!" :lol This must be the medal for killing someone while they are jetpacking up in the air. Looks just like the jetpack icon, but with a skull on it of course.

Hilarious. I still think "pull!" every time I hear someone launch off a man cannon. :lol

 

[big ander]

Re: human environments
They look pretty boring, but I'm still hoping we go into the Forerunner structures under Reach. Would be awesome.

 

[Hellspawn23]

so far so good. only thing i would complaing about is that terrible "instant-flying-facedown-flailing-arms-death-animation"

i have always hated it.

 

[Trasher]

There was some discussion of that over at HBO. There's one frame where you can see through the explosion to the silhouette:

Looks like a Spartan in a jetpack.

Yeah I noticed that frame as well, but wasn't quite able to make it out.

For clarification Eazy, I was talking about this:

I still wanna know what this is dammit. Looks too well designed to be just nothing or a piece of debris.

 

[electricpirate]

Dibs!

NP.

A couple more avys up for grabs.

THANKS!

Flying arm defense force, assemble!

 

[Veelk]

NP.

A couple more avys up for grabs.

I'll take this one

 

[NullPointer]

Can I have this one?

First come, first served.

Thanks. My jetpack lovin is redeemed.

 

[Spasm]

Can I have this one?

First come, first served.

so far so good. only thing i would complaing about is that terrible "instant-flying-facedown-flailing-arms-death-animation"

i have always hated it.

You've never rolled down the windows before? Don't own a bike/skate/snow board?

 

[Trasher]

Someone needs to gif the elite in the very beginning riding in on the tank. He looks too hilarious. theyseemerollin.gif

 

[Gui_PT]

Thank you very much Spasm!