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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed

joey_z

Banned
Ramirez said:
I thought it looked extremely well considering it looks like it's going to retain the big levels like the past Halo's. Most of the games this gen that look gorgeous are in small levels...

Mass Effect is not even coming close to doing all of the stuff Halo 3 was in single player, how can anyone expect that type of facial detail in a massive FPS compared to walking around a city hub?

Hmm...are we sure this game will be like all the other Halo games though? I just have this (terrible) feeling that Bungie might go down the MW route with a highly cinematic yet restrictive campaign mode. On rails shooting so to speak.

I really do wonder if concessions are being made to the gameplay to fit in the better graphics. This is quite a jump, especially if it has improved anti aliasing. There's no way the 360 (or any current console) can handle that at the Halo 3 level of expansive gameplay.
 

soldat7

Member
Keikoku said:
Anyway, the setting of the trailer wasn't epic at all :/

Did you look at the sky? Plus any FPS setting that gives us more than a 15-foot wide corridor to run down should be considered 'epic.' ;)
 
Just saw it. My immediate reaction is well..

Underwhelmatonne to the max.

Also, that didn't hype me for the story at all. These Spartans speak and move like the ham-fisted ODSTs. I don't want this to turn into another Firefly marine jackoff. Spartans in the book Reach were fairly silent themselves and intimidating.

That preview was shithouse.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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This guy's already more badass than MC.
 

Keikoku

Banned
soldat7 said:
Did you look at the sky? Plus any FPS setting that gives us more than a 15-foot wide corridor to run down should be considered 'epic.' ;)

You're talking scale, not epicness. And Halo always had this kind of scale. Definitely satisfied with the graphics, but we didn't see enough of the global setting, even for a teaser.
 
joey_z said:
It's a huge step up for Bungie, but it's just started to compete against the first Mass Effect. And there is absolutely no reason that an FPS game should not be able to churn out better faces than an open world RPG like Mass Effect.

Except that spending large amounts of resources on faces when you will only see them for about 2% of the game seems like a irresponsible use of resources. With Mass Effect, the dialogue system is a HUGE part of the experience, which means a large number of resources should (and were) be dedicated to that.
 
Scullibundo said:
Also, that didn't hype me for the story at all. These Spartans speak and move like the ham-fisted ODSTs. I don't want this to turn into another Firefly marine jackoff. Spartans in the book Reach were fairly silent themselves and intimidating.

WAT

Silent heroes can go and die somewhere. These Spartans will be infinitely more interesting than MC. I can only hope that the Firefight banter from ODST makes it into the multiplayer of Reach.
 

joey_z

Banned
Scullibundo said:
Just saw it. My immediate reaction is well..

Underwhelmatonne to the max.

Also, that didn't hype me for the story at all. These Spartans speak and move like the ham-fisted ODSTs. I don't want this to turn into another Firefly marine jackoff. Spartans in the book Reach were fairly silent themselves and intimidating.

That preview was shithouse.

You and Ghal may be friends in the Avatar thread, but that shit doesn't fly here :D

In all seriousness though, what was underwhelming? I agree the Spartans are acting nothing like their novel self. There was some beautiful subtle chemistry in the way they were written. Something lost on the script writers at Bungie. Isn't Nylund overlooking this project?

The graphics look pretty awesome after looking at the better quality videos. However that vaseline filter is disgusting and needs to be removed now.

Edit:
For shiggles - You love James Camaron movies and you've filled half of GAF with Avatar love. You are not the right person to be insulting ham-fisted marines :D
 

soldat7

Member
Keikoku said:
You're talking scale, not epicness.

Epic: impressively great, of unusually great size or extent

Sure the scale is grand, but did you see that HUGE light/explosion in the distance? The whole thing looked pretty epic to me.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Blueblur1 said:
Halo Reach on next Game Informer cover? Sounds likely.

http://twitter.com/GI_AndyMc/status/6617449042
Reach MP coverage starts in January, so it's entirely possible. Not sure how it's likely from that tweet, though.
joey_z said:
You and Ghal may be friends in the Avatar thread, but that shit doesn't fly here :D
What happens in the OT, stays in the OT.

I consider Bungie the James Cameron of game developers, though. As he was to Avatar, so I am to Reach. And the results will be the same. :p
 

TTG

Member
Net_Wrecker said:
WAT

Silent heroes can go and die somewhere. These Spartans will be infinitely more interesting than MC. I can only hope that the Firefight banter from ODST makes it into the multiplayer of Reach.

No, the pack of douchebags as seen in Gears 2(they were somewhat funny in the first game) and Killzone 2 can go and die somewhere. Except not one a time, prompting the oh so tear jerking, grieving cut scene:lol
 

Chorazin

Member
joey_z said:
In all seriousness though, what was underwhelming? I agree the Spartans are acting nothing like their novel self. There was some beautiful subtle chemistry in the way they were written. Something lost on the script writers at Bungie. Isn't Nylund overlooking this project?

They aren't the Spartans in the Reach novel. This is Noble team, 1 through 6.
 
TTG said:
No, the pack of douchebags as seen in Gears 2(they were somewhat funny in the first game) and Killzone 2 can go and die somewhere. Except not one a time, prompting the oh so tear jerking, grieving cut scene:lol

No, RICO from Killzone 2 can go die somewhere. Seriously, he needs to be killed off in the 3rd one. he's annoying. The main Cogs in Gears are pretty OK IMO. "Back in your hole grub," and all of Cole's excitement is lulz.
 

soldat7

Member
Jtyettis said:
Oh yea that is for sure. Went up right around the time of the Reach reveal. Probably a few other mags as well.

Come on mid January.

Yeah Bungie has said that the media blitz will begin mid-January.
 

szaromir

Banned
soldat7 said:
Epic: impressively great, of unusually great size or extent

Sure the scale is grand, but did you see that HUGE light/explosion in the distance? The whole thing looked pretty epic to me.
I love how the ship hidden in the clouds becomes visible. Nice touch.
 

Blueblur1

Member
GhaleonEB said:
Reach MP coverage starts in January, so it's entirely possible. Not sure how it's likely from that tweet, though.
Jtyettis said:
Oh yea that is for sure. Went up right around the time of the Reach reveal. Probably a few other mags as well.

Come on mid January.
What ^^he said. Plus, GI got the ODST cover story and is the only huge multiplatform magazine left in the US. Can't wait for European mag scans to show up online before the magazine hits newsstands and spoil everything though. History always repeats itself with the Halo franchise. ;)
 
Some folks in this thread are fucking retarded.

If you don't know what CG or prerendered means, then don't use those terms. Yeah it may be a touch better than pure gameplay because its a cinematic but that is the engine and its being rendered by the 360.

Also, this is the opening cinematic, not a trailer. This was stated numerous times, are you really that surprised that we don't get a full gameplay montage and shit blowign up and action scenes?

The graphics are a big step up from Halo 3/ODST and there are no jaggies to be seen. The models and animation are great. The dailogue was okay, and anyone comparing it to Ao2 or Gears needs to STFU now.

The music was awesome! Are some of you folks kidding me? I bet NONE of you, not a single one of you thought anything of the ODST's (Halo 3: Recon) music when it was unveiled at TGS 08, but now its settled into an iconic Halo theme and we all know and love it.

I came home, downloaded the trailer from the link posted. The first thing I did was put the headphones on, turned off the lights and pressed play. It was a wonderful tease with epic music, great graphics and a cool tone. I come on GAF and all I can read is stupid bitching and just false claims. Seriously, for Halo fans, some of you are really fucking misinformed or just shitty fans.
 

TTG

Member
Net_Wrecker said:
No, RICO from Killzone 2 can go die somewhere. Seriously, he needs to be killed off in the 3rd one. he's annoying. The main Cogs in Gears are pretty OK IMO. "Back in your hole grub," and all of Cole's excitement is lulz.


Someone needs to make a montage. MARIA!!!! GARZA!!!!..............Sev, find some cover!

Speaking of which, I'm assuming Cortana is not in Reach? I'm hoping for another calm voice.
 

Keikoku

Banned
Vast Inspiration said:
Some folks in this thread are fucking retarded.

If you don't know what CG or prerendered means, then don't use those terms. Yeah it may be a touch better than pure gameplay because its a cinematic but that is the engine and its being rendered by the 360.

Also, this is the opening cinematic, not a trailer. This was stated numerous times, are you really that surprised that we don't get a full gameplay montage and shit blowign up and action scenes?

The graphics are a big step up from Halo 3/ODST and there are no jaggies to be seen. The models and animation are great. The dailogue was okay, and anyone comparing it to Ao2 or Gears needs to STFU now.

The music was awesome! Are some of you folks kidding me? I bet NONE of you, not a single one of you thought anything of the ODST's (Halo 3: Recon) music when it was unveiled at TGS 08, but now its settled into an iconic Halo theme and we all know and love it.

I came home, downloaded the trailer from the link posted. The first thing I did was put the headphones on, turned off the lights and pressed play. It was a wonderful tease with epic music, great graphics and a cool tone. I come on GAF and all I can read is stupid bitching and just false claims. Seriously, for Halo fans, some of you are really fucking misinformed or just shitty fans.

What is Ao2 ?
 

joey_z

Banned
Chorazin said:
They aren't the Spartans in the Reach novel. This is Noble team, 1 through 6.

That is true but I guess because most of the spartans were written with the same restrained predator characterization and naive political tone with just a hint of individuality showcased through their combat style, I assumed every spartan would have the same subtlety. But that word has an ugly history in Halo threads.
 

kylej

Banned
Kibbles said:
... sonuvabitch. :lol

[edit] For new page.

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That is an environment I want to play in. Please Bungie, I've wandered around enough grey hallways and repetitive corridors in Halo games to last me a lifetime. Open the Reach stages up a bit.
 

itsgreen

Member
Vast Inspiration said:
Some folks in this thread are fucking retarded.

If you don't know what CG or prerendered means, then don't use those terms. Yeah it may be a touch better than pure gameplay because its a cinematic but that is the engine and its being rendered by the 360.

Also, this is the opening cinematic, not a trailer. This was stated numerous times, are you really that surprised that we don't get a full gameplay montage and shit blowign up and action scenes?

The graphics are a big step up from Halo 3/ODST and there are no jaggies to be seen. The models and animation are great. The dailogue was okay, and anyone comparing it to Ao2 or Gears needs to STFU now.

The music was awesome! Are some of you folks kidding me? I bet NONE of you, not a single one of you thought anything of the ODST's (Halo 3: Recon) music when it was unveiled at TGS 08, but now its settled into an iconic Halo theme and we all know and love it.

I came home, downloaded the trailer from the link posted. The first thing I did was put the headphones on, turned off the lights and pressed play. It was a wonderful tease with epic music, great graphics and a cool tone. I come on GAF and all I can read is stupid bitching and just false claims. Seriously, for Halo fans, some of you are really fucking misinformed or just shitty fans.

Lets be realistic though, we all have seen games where the cutscenes, in game, look way better than the actual gameplay.

In race games for instance, photomodes and stuff is the place where bullshots are made. 'Yeah completely in game'...

Still this trailer looked afaicj (as far as I can judge) very good.
 

TTG

Member
Vast Inspiration said:
Some folks in this thread are fucking retarded.

If you don't know what CG or prerendered means, then don't use those terms. Yeah it may be a touch better than pure gameplay because its a cinematic but that is the engine and its being rendered by the 360.

Also, this is the opening cinematic, not a trailer. This was stated numerous times, are you really that surprised that we don't get a full gameplay montage and shit blowign up and action scenes?

The graphics are a big step up from Halo 3/ODST and there are no jaggies to be seen. The models and animation are great. The dailogue was okay, and anyone comparing it to Ao2 or Gears needs to STFU now.

The music was awesome! Are some of you folks kidding me? I bet NONE of you, not a single one of you thought anything of the ODST's (Halo 3: Recon) music when it was unveiled at TGS 08, but now its settled into an iconic Halo theme and we all know and love it.

I came home, downloaded the trailer from the link posted. The first thing I did was put the headphones on, turned off the lights and pressed play. It was a wonderful tease with epic music, great graphics and a cool tone. I come on GAF and all I can read is stupid bitching and just false claims. Seriously, for Halo fans, some of you are really fucking misinformed or just shitty fans.

Link to your reaction video plz. I'm sure it blows the other guy's attempt at excitement away.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
joey_z said:
That is true but I guess because most of the spartans were written with the same restrained predator characterization and naive political tone with just a hint of individuality showcased through their combat style, I assumed every spartan would have the same subtlety. But that word has an ugly history in Halo threads.
No idea how accurate this is, but from the HBO thread:

Although, and here's a kicker, one of them said "I thought none of them made it out of Pagasi."

If I remember, Pagasi Delta was an operation that a bunch of S-IIIs were deployed on, and most of them died. Maybe these made-up redshirt Spartans are actually S-IIIs, thus explaining their lack-of-S-II godliness?
http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=956714
 
joey_z said:
You and Ghal may be friends in the Avatar thread, but that shit doesn't fly here :D

In all seriousness though, what was underwhelming? I agree the Spartans are acting nothing like their novel self. There was some beautiful subtle chemistry in the way they were written. Something lost on the script writers at Bungie. Isn't Nylund overlooking this project?

The graphics look pretty awesome after looking at the better quality videos. However that vaseline filter is disgusting and needs to be removed now.

Edit:
For shiggles - You love James Camaron movies and you've filled half of GAF with Avatar love. You are not the right person to be insulting ham-fisted marines :D

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge, huge HALO fan. The ultimate teaser will always be the HALO 2 Announcement teaser for me.

This thing just didn't give me any sort of exciting vibe for the story. It showcased purely the characters and thats fine if they're interesting. I think it might also have something to do with the fact that this is the first time Bungie themselves have revealed a Spartan without their helmet on and its just some average joe. They move limberly like any other marine in this and talk exactly like the ODSTs.

This is fucking REACH - the beginning of the extermination. Why shouldn't I expect a trailer that is exciting? Show me the stakes of this game, show me the desperate tone of the story. I don't see how anything in that trailer could spark excitement in anybody. I'm a Halo fanboy, but IN MY OPINION that would only excite the irrational fanboys who will eat up anything HALO.

Also, did they just remove the pupils from the Elite?
 

clashfan

Member
Even the people with their helmets off are Spartans? I though Spartans are suppose to look kindof freaky? Loved the sneak peak!
 

neoism

Member
Shame it was on Spike, I haven't even seen the trailer yet:lol , bungle please put it on your site or live now. KTHX
 

SuperÑ

OptionN, ShiftN
I said wow! It looks fucking amazing, Incredible graphics. Is it realtime, like the cutscenes in Halo 3 & ODST? Or is it sth else?
 

soldat7

Member
Vast Inspiration said:
Some folks in this thread are fucking retarded.

If you don't know what CG or prerendered means, then don't use those terms. Yeah it may be a touch better than pure gameplay because its a cinematic but that is the engine and its being rendered by the 360.

Also, this is the opening cinematic, not a trailer. This was stated numerous times, are you really that surprised that we don't get a full gameplay montage and shit blowign up and action scenes?

The graphics are a big step up from Halo 3/ODST and there are no jaggies to be seen. The models and animation are great. The dailogue was okay, and anyone comparing it to Ao2 or Gears needs to STFU now.

The music was awesome! Are some of you folks kidding me? I bet NONE of you, not a single one of you thought anything of the ODST's (Halo 3: Recon) music when it was unveiled at TGS 08, but now its settled into an iconic Halo theme and we all know and love it.

I came home, downloaded the trailer from the link posted. The first thing I did was put the headphones on, turned off the lights and pressed play. It was a wonderful tease with epic music, great graphics and a cool tone. I come on GAF and all I can read is stupid bitching and just false claims. Seriously, for Halo fans, some of you are really fucking misinformed or just shitty fans.

Pretty much.
 

TheLOLMan

Neo Member
Scullibundo said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge, huge HALO fan. The ultimate teaser will always be the HALO 2 Announcement teaser for me.

This thing just didn't give me any sort of exciting vibe for the story. It showcased purely the characters and thats fine if they're interesting. I think it might also have something to do with the fact that this is the first time Bungie themselves have revealed a Spartan without their helmet on and its just some average joe. They move limberly like any other marine in this and talk exactly like the ODSTs.

This is fucking REACH - the beginning of the extermination. Why shouldn't I expect a trailer that is exciting? Show me the stakes of this game, show me the desperate tone of the story. I don't see how anything in that trailer could spark excitement in anybody. I'm a Halo fanboy, but IN MY OPINION that would only excite the irrational fanboys who will eat up anything HALO.

Also, did they just remove the pupils from the Elite?
E3...
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
Updated the OP with some shots and a gif. Going to refrain from linking to shorted lived Youtube videos and wait for the direct feed HD Bungie.net goodness.
 

Kibbles

Member
SuperÑ said:
I said wow! It looks fucking amazing, Incredible graphics. Is it realtime, like the cutscenes in Halo 3 & ODST? Or is it sth else?
It's real-time, in-game, like the Halo 1, 2, 3, and ODST cutscenes.
 

PSGames

Junior Member
All I have to say is please god let this be native 720p with some form of AA and I will be ecstatic with these visuals!!! :D
 
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