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[EazyB]

^ Geoff Keighley says on his twitter that it's all realtime.

THIS!

 

[TTG]

THIS!

x100000

 

[∀ Narayan]

I'm starting to think they are. They're not as big as the other Spartan-IIs we've seen before and I remember Spartan-IIIs being characterized as being smaller in stature.

Are we even sure if there were ever SPARTAN-IIIs on Reach? I don't think there were any.

 

[StUnNeR H2K]

Anyone have a time frame on when either gametrailers or someone will have an official HD version up?

 

[Kibbles]

Yeah I was going to comment on the silky smoothness, then it caught me. The animations. Good stuff.

 

[itsgreen]

not gt, but uploaded at gt...

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/halo-reach-vga-reveal/336303?playlist=featured

best quality I have seen. And I can now also clearly see the ship in the clouds...

And it isn't funny how good it looks @ :50, when he walks into the room. Also got a good vibe when all of them walk out.

 

[Four_Chamber]

The environments look stunning

The cutscenes in Halo 3 looked nowhere near as fluid as this- I think the animations will take a quantum leap from Halo 3 to Reach.

I'm more excited to see how much money Microsoft is going to splurge on this advertising campaign. Halo 3 launch was the last launch I did and I'd love to do it again... granted, I'll be a medical resident (intern actually) by then but that's beside the point :lol

 

[itsgreen]

The environments look stunning

The cutscenes in Halo 3 looked nowhere near as fluid as this- I think the animations will take a quantum leap from Halo 3 to Reach.

I'm more excited to see how much money Microsoft is going to splurge on this advertising campaign. Halo 3 launch was the last launch I did and I'd love to do it again... granted, I'll be a medical resident (intern actually) by then but that's beside the point :lol

I am taking the over on 80 million bucks. Or atleast for 360's fall 2010 campaign. Natal, Reach, maybe a Gears 3? They will fucking buy every second, every inch of advertising space that 360 is the place to be.

 

[feel]

That wasn't paint.

Is the helmet visor a display on the outside? Can he change it at will like Rorschach? Cuz that would be badass.

 

[StUnNeR H2K]

Did anyone catch the Spartan numbers yet?

Carter-259
???-320
???-052 (Class I???)

 

[Proelite]

Coming off MW2, the lighting and texturing in Reach is at another level.

 

[Gilgamesh]

If it was Spartan-IIIs in the trailer, they would have been wearing SPI Armor, no? From my understanding, it looks too big. More like MJOLNIR. It's gotta be Spartan-IIs.

 

[Rad Agast]

Can't be Spartan III's. All of the first batch, Alpha Company died in their operation to destroy a Covenant shipyard and the only surviving members of the Pegasi Delta op from Beta company were Tom and Lucy.

I've only read the Fall of Reach so I'm behind on the lore. It's safe to say that the new Spartan (no.6) is a Spartan III then?

 

[scently]

Did anyone catch the Spartan numbers yet?

Carter-259
???-320
???-052 (Class I???)

Their numbers actually makes things more interesting.

 

[Grimm Fandango]

Sucking the corporate teat, alas. I miss speculatin' with them.

Yeah it sucks. I liked how they picked apart the ODST videos last year.

 

[scarybore]

Can't be Spartan III's. All of the first batch, Alpha Company died in their operation to destroy a Covenant shipyard and the only surviving members of the Pegasi Delta op from Beta company were Tom and Lucy.

I hope so, but it certainly sounds like Pegasi is mentioned and ONI hides shit all the time so who is to say only two truly survived? I will be slightly disapointed if they are Spartan III's though as I really wanted this game to be about the Spartans Master Chief had to leave behind during the initial stages of the Covenant's attack of Reach.

I wouldn't have thought it would make sense for SIII's to be on Reach anyway considering they are as black as a black op is ever going to get, it would seem a bit stupid to have them on their main military planet where they are more likely to be noticed and questions raised but who knows.

The environments look stunning

After watching the video a good few times now, I'm really loving all that foliage at the start.

 

[∀ Narayan]

If it was Spartan-IIIs in the trailer, they would have been wearing SPI Armor, no? From my understanding, it looks too big. More like MJOLNIR. It's gotta be Spartan-IIs.

Yet one of those SPARTANs is numbered in the 300s. This doesn't make any sense.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Yet one of those SPARTANs is numbered in the 300s. This doesn't make any sense.

That's a good point, I forgot how many were in the Spartan-II program... maybe they really are Spartan-IIIs. There were 330 in the Gamma generation so it does fit in that respect.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

^ Geoff Keighley says on his twitter that it's all realtime.

This made the reveal for me.

The trailer itself didn't nearly have the punch of the Halo 2 X02 reveal, or the Halo 3 E3 '06 one, but the visual fidelity and animation on display made up for some of it.

That and the triumphant return of the BR and Elites as antagonists. Fuck yeah.

 

[WickedLaharl]

the dialogue and music was so bad. still waiting to see it in HD before commenting on the graphics.

 

[StUnNeR H2K]

Their numbers actually makes things more interesting.

Yeah 259 & 320 are in the teaser trailer from E3...

These have to be Spartan II's, hard to judge the size of them but if I remember the Spartan III's were kids developed faster and were much younger (or would be much younger at this time frame). Just curious to see that possibly have some Spartan II's from two different classes mixing possibly? That is if my hunch is still right that the higher numbers are from a second class.

 

[∀ Narayan]

That's a good point, I forgot how many were in the Spartan-II program... maybe they really are Spartan-IIIs. There were 330 in the Gamma generation so it does fit in that respect.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/SPARTAN-II_Program

Despite the tremendous risk, and the unethical means of creating new soldiers, the SPARTAN-II project was approved by the top brass within ONI - who concluded that the lives that could be saved far outweighed the risks involved. By 2517, 150 suitable candidates, had been identified, but for budgetary reasons only half that number could be "conscripted". Seventy-Five children, all six years old of both sexes were kidnapped, and in order to preserve the program's secrecy, the children are replaced by flash clones which would die soon thereafter due to numerous medical complications associated with flash-cloning an entire human being.

The SPARTAN-II candidates after being sedated were taken to the colony world Reach, and began their training under Chief Petty Officer Mendez. To marginalize the civilian lives they had once led, their names became a combination of their given names and a number, with family names being discarded. The Spartans endured a great deal of hardship during their first years of training, the Spartans were placed into situation and drills that pushed their abilities to their very limit and beyond. Their hard training was complemented with a good education, from math and science, reading and writing, to military tactics. His training methodology was tough, even brutal in some regards; Chief Petty Officer Mendez always instilled discipline, honor, respect to the Spartans. He taught the Spartans how to kill, but at the same time he taught them the difference between right and wrong. Mendez trained the Spartans until 2525 when at the age of fourteen, the Spartans would go through the toughest part of their training; the Augmentation Procedures, a process that would kill 30 of the 75 children conscripted, and cripple 12 others who would "wash out" of the SPARTAN-II program, going on to join the Office of Naval Intelligence or otherwise; only 33 survived the procedures to move on.

There is some fishy shit going on here.

 

[StUnNeR H2K]

the dialogue was so bad. still waiting to see it in HD before commenting on the graphics.

I thought the same too, but after watching it a few more times it's not as bad. It's just not the Halo we are used too...

After watching a couple more times the animation of the characters is really nice... watching the two spartans go down the stairs out of that build... looked really good.

 

[godhandiscen]

Ok, so I want to be the first skeptic here. How big of a downgrade do you think the actual gameplay graphics will be in terms of quality from what we just saw today?

I am not saying that what we saw today were gameplay graphics, but how much worse than this will the gameplay graphics look like? There is no chance in hell than gameplay graphics will look this good (which is sad because this vid wasn't that impressive). What do you guys think?

 

[CrazedArabMan]

Don't know why people are saying the Dialogue is bad, I thought is sounded just fine. Oh, and the graphics are so cool.

 

[Rad Agast]

Ok, so I want to be the first skeptic here. How big of a downgrade do you think the actual gameplay graphics will be in terms of quality from what we just saw today?

I am not saying that what we saw today were gameplay graphics, but how much worse than this will the gameplay graphics look like? There is no chance in hell than gameplay graphics will look this good (which is sad because this vid wasn't that impressive). What do you guys think?

I'd wait for the Beta to judge.

 

[StUnNeR H2K]

There is some fishy shit going on here.

Highest possible number for a Spartan-II from the first class that John-117 was apart of could only be 150. Since out of the list of 150 only 75 were trained, but they obtained their numbers from the original 150.

It's possible they are Spartan-III's, but I highly doubt it. The armor follows to much along the lines of the Spartan-II's. Spartan-III's also have a letter in front of the number... i.e. Spartan-III's from Beta Company were Tom-B292, Lucy-B091... Gamma Company Ash-G099, Holly-G003... The Spartan's in the preimere clip don't have letters in front of the numbers, and only Spartan-II's don't have letters in front of the numbers.

 

[Gilgamesh]

I bet there aren't any problems with flash cloning. ONI did something to the clones to make them die when they returned. They had another Spartan-II program running concurrently with the one we know about.

Halo Reach: The Clone Wars.

 

[TheLOLMan]

Ok, so I want to be the first skeptic here. How big of a downgrade do you think the actual gameplay graphics will be in terms of quality from what we just saw today?

I am not saying that what we saw today were gameplay graphics, but how much worse than this will the gameplay graphics look like? There is no chance in hell than gameplay graphics will look this good (which is sad because this vid wasn't that impressive). What do you guys think?

I think there's gona be an upgrade in gfx (if the leak picture is indication of anything)...this is a new engine after all, if it's gona look worse then what's the point of shifting to a new engine?

 

[zumphry]

I'll have to see the trailer again from Bungie to have solid feelings on the trailer.

Spoiler

Which is a nicer way of saying "I'm just not feeling it anymore".

 

[godhandiscen]

I'd wait for the Beta to judge.

No, not fair, it can only go up from the Beta. I am just hoping Bungie doesn't pull another "Halo 3 E306 reveal announcement."

 

[GreekWolf]

^ Geoff Keighley says on his twitter that it's all realtime.

Bullshit that's realtime. With the geometry and lighting on display, those gifs are an order of magnitude greater than anything we've seen on consoles. Don't get me wrong, I'd absolutely love for it to be true... but do you really think the 360, with it's 512 RAM can crank that out without blowing a gasket?

This makes the wait for actual gameplay even more irritating.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

Don't know why people are saying the Dialogue is bad, I thought is sounded just fine.

ONI isn't on Reach is it? There's no way Helfer could show up, right? Wait, wasn't it mentioned in game that Buck and Chinnie Longstocking survived Reach somehow?

... I'm gonna go ahead and be pre-emptively disappointed in the dialogue too.

 

[Deadly]

I bet there aren't any problems with flash cloning. ONI did something to the clones to make them die when they returned. They had another Spartan-II program running concurrently with the one we know about.

Nope, after the first batch of Spartan II's, they planned to train more but due to funds they cancelled the project. Honestly, based on the information we have they are definitely not Spartan III's. Even if the number ranges to 300 and doesn't make sense, it's their game, they can screw with the lore anyhow they want.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

Nope, after the first batch of Spartan II's, they planned to train more but due to funds they cancelled the project. Honestly, based on the information we have they are definitely not Spartan III's. Even if the number ranges to 300 and doesn't make sense, it's their game, they can screw with the lore anyhow they want.

It's also the only media you will be seeing for at least a month, they could easily be screwing with the people who would notice such things.

 

[Vast Inspiration]

Oh noes! Bungle showed me the opening cinematic of Reach which introduces the characters like they told me they would, instead of making a seperate teaser trailer which won't end up in the game at all which I would've cried about once the game came out because its not in the game and Bungle deceiveded me!

 

[Kibbles]

Bullshit that's realtime. With the geometry and lighting on display, those gifs are an order of magnitude greater than anything we've seen on consoles. Don't get me wrong, I'd absolutely love for it to be true... but do you really think the 360, with it's 512 RAM can crank that out without blowing a gasket?

This makes the wait for actual gameplay even more irritating.

So Geoff Keighley and numerous Bungie employees are lying?

 

[StUnNeR H2K]

They had another Spartan-II program running concurrently with the one we know about.

Actually they halted the second class of Spartan-II's in order to improve the augumentation process. If or when the second class ever happened is unkown, but based on the Spartan numbers in the video/teaser it appears some where along the lines the second class did get started...

 

[riceandbeans]

This made the reveal for me.

The trailer itself didn't nearly have the punch of the Halo 2 X02 reveal, or the Halo 3 E3 '06 one, but the visual fidelity and animation on display made up for some of it.

That and the triumphant return of the BR and Elites as antagonists. Fuck yeah.

Let's hear some classic "Wort wort wort" gibberish Elite talk from Halo: CE. Don't really get the worry about the graphics being downgraded a bunch, it's not like the game is that visually impressive. I'm probably gonna get flamed here, but they look about on par with Gears of War 2. Nothing really Killzone 2 quality about it, especially the faces. As long as the gameplay delivers like it always does, that's all that matters anyway.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

So Geoff Keighley and numerous Bungie employees are lying?

More likely the gifs are.

 

[StUnNeR H2K]

ONI isn't on Reach is it? There's no way Helfer could show up, right? Wait, wasn't it mentioned in game that Buck and Chinnie Longstocking survived Reach somehow?

... I'm gonna go ahead and be pre-emptively disappointed in the dialogue too.

Buck & Dare could both be in the game... In ODST they both mention escaping Reach. Anything is possible, and who knows maybe they will find some way to tie up how Buck & Dare got off Reach alive.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Oh noes! Bungle showed me the opening cinematic of Reach which introduces the characters like they told me they would, instead of making a seperate teaser trailer which won't end up in the game at all which I would've cried about once the game came out because its not in the game and Bungle deceiveded me!

Betrayalton.

 

[Kibbles]

1hr 12min until HD Release. *eagerly awaits*

 

[GreekWolf]

So Geoff Keighley and Bungie are lying?

Not at all, I would never imply that. Perhaps just overly optimistic.

In fairness, maybe I've finally burned out on zero gameplay/cinematic assets "reveals."

 

[Chuck Norris]

Bullshit that's realtime. With the geometry and lighting on display, those gifs are an order of magnitude greater than anything we've seen on consoles. Don't get me wrong, I'd absolutely love for it to be true... but do you really think the 360, with it's 512 RAM can crank that out without blowing a gasket?

This makes the wait for actual gameplay even more irritating.

What?

Besides the environment being large (though not necessarily a gameplay area). I don't see how it's orders of magnitudes better than the industry leaders in any aspect

Rage looks much better. Not to stoke the fire. just thinking of something with an equivelant design and level size.

 

[clashfan]

Animation was the biggest improvement for me. I also liked the non-American accents in the trailer.

 

[Stinkles]

Bullshit that's realtime. With the geometry and lighting on display, those gifs are an order of magnitude greater than anything we've seen on consoles. Don't get me wrong, I'd absolutely love for it to be true... but do you really think the 360, with it's 512 RAM can crank that out without blowing a gasket?

This makes the wait for actual gameplay even more irritating.

It's an in-engine cinematic from the game. End of story.

 

[Trasher]

That wasn't paint.

Jizz?

 

[GhaleonEB]

Animation was the biggest improvement for me.

Such a huge leap from the previous games. The walking animation in the ODST intro was really bad; the move to mo-cap has been long in coming.

1hr 12min until HD Release. *eagerly awaits*

Glad I'm not the only one up killing time waiting for it.

 

[scoobs]

Bullshit that's realtime. With the geometry and lighting on display, those gifs are an order of magnitude greater than anything we've seen on consoles. Don't get me wrong, I'd absolutely love for it to be true... but do you really think the 360, with it's 512 RAM can crank that out without blowing a gasket?

This makes the wait for actual gameplay even more irritating.

Really? Really?!? it looks great but.. really?