Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed

Ramirez said:
Christ, no wonder I hated it back then, every game we played we got destroyed because we knew nothing about working together. :lol Images of Duderon running around with SMG+PR.

How in the world did you find all of that? :lol
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The thread still exists man: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22301

Enjoy. I went through the whole thing pretty much last night out of boredom. The thing is a fucking goldmine. :lol

I found out what Nutter's least favorite map is:
Nutter said:
Midship just sucks. too many cheats and glitches in that level. :/
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Trasher said:
Interesting... http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1117343&postcount=1823
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Ramirez said:
Really,who gives a fuck how MLG plays,are we in MLG?No.

-No duel wielding whatsoever
-No sword

=

teh ghey

Ya know you have grenades with your SMG you can use ;)

Oh and there is a reason Bungie doesn't have the BR as a starting weapon,it just doesn't work on most maps!Nothing like spawning and havin 10 BR's coming at you,you have a "chance" then too I guess
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Where's the sign-ups for Team Ramirez?


Continuing the the current thread of ownage, I renewed my Bungie Pro just so I could render this clip. And given the fact that there's good reason to believe the chopper isn't making a return, I've decided I'mma make that choptage I'd been collecting clips for about a year ago.

Context: Coco P. Jojo is driving the hog. Coco P. Jojo is a nub sandwich:
Clip
 
To all the kids who have sent me XBL messages in response to the Waypoint feature. Thank you ever so much for your kind words. :D

To all the kids who watched the Waypoint feature and now want me to build maps for them so they can 'get them into Bungie'. If you can't form a sentence, there is now way in hell you can form a map.



so, it's 4:20AM, have the French leaked any April Fools Day pranks yet. :lol
 
Ramirez said:
U mad you weren't invited?

I still remember the first time I ever donged on you and Luke on Lockout 1 Flag, believe.
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Most people do. It's a great life achievement. You can put that on your resume.
 
Deputy Moonman said:
New image at http://www.nobleactual.com/
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That looks fantastic - seems the vegetation has been improved from Halo 3 and the lighting, as always, continues to impress. I'm guessing it's from the same area we saw in the ViDoc? I know a lot of people are anxious to learn about everything Multiplayer, myself included, but I'm personally really looking forward to seeing some more footage from the Campaign.
 
While it certainly looks good, they could have at least provided us with a good quality picture. It's a blurry mess.

By the way, no news on that mistery image? No april's fool?
 
metareferential said:
While it certainly looks good, they could have at least provided us with a good quality picture. It's a blurry mess.

By the way, no news on that mistery image? No april's fool?
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I think it was the teaser for the new motion comic from 343? I posted it the page back.
 
metareferential said:
While it certainly looks good, they could have at least provided us with a good quality picture. It's a blurry mess.

By the way, no news on that mistery image? No april's fool?
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Don't worry, I've got your back!:lol
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I went to the Cavs game last night so I didn't read the GI article until this morning but wow was it ever fantastic. Came over to GAF and saw about 10 pages of what I thought would be great discussion yet it is nothing but a bitch fest. Some of you guys are real pieces of work. Its a shame that a few posters really ruin this thread, and to be honest I don't know why bungie guys waste their time posting here. You guys already drove out Ferrex with your shit attitudes and crybaby whining, I wonder which one is next.
 
Wizman23 said:
I went to the Cavs game last night so I didn't read the GI article until this morning but wow was it ever fantastic. Came over to GAF and saw about 10 pages of what I thought would be great discussion yet it is nothing but a bitch fest. Some of you guys are real pieces of work. Its a shame that a few posters really ruin this thread, and to be honest I don't know why bungie guys waste their time posting here. You guys already drove out Ferrex with your shit attitudes and crybaby whining, I wonder which one is next.
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And yet, bitching is exactly what you just did with your post.

Thank you for contributing
 
Wizman23 said:
I went to the Cavs game last night so I didn't read the GI article until this morning but wow was it ever fantastic. Came over to GAF and saw about 10 pages of what I thought would be great discussion yet it is nothing but a bitch fest. Some of you guys are real pieces of work. Its a shame that a few posters really ruin this thread, and to be honest I don't know why bungie guys waste their time posting here. You guys already drove out Ferrex with your shit attitudes and crybaby whining, I wonder which one is next.
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It's just that all of the new info and changes are a lot to process, and none of us will get to test the waters until May 3rd. I know that I've been one of the negative posters in this thread. I'm downright loyal to the ways of Halo1, but I'm trying a new approach where I just go with the flow.
 
Well to be honest I saw a great number of enthusiastic posts. Is this also considered bitching?

The spartan laser debate seems to have been going on for ages; and some of the complaints I find to be understandable, at least, though I must confess that in my modest online career I haven't noticed all that laser dominance.

It is true that some whining has been going on lately. But it's not that dramatic, is it? And also "whining" doesn't seem to be the proper word.
 
ManCannon said:
Is this a bad time to reveal that the predominant gametype in the multiplayer beta is Heavies? :lol

JOKES. And..I have no problems with personal opinions or unpopular stances. To each his own!
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:lol I wanted to make that joke last night, glad you did it for me.

Gui sums up the response to yours Wizman, people are just passionate and discussing the info as we get it.
Slugs & hugs dude, slugs and hugs.
 
Wizman23 said:
I went to the Cavs game last night so I didn't read the GI article until this morning but wow was it ever fantastic. Came over to GAF and saw about 10 pages of what I thought would be great discussion yet it is nothing but a bitch fest. Some of you guys are real pieces of work. Its a shame that a few posters really ruin this thread, and to be honest I don't know why bungie guys waste their time posting here. You guys already drove out Ferrex with your shit attitudes and crybaby whining, I wonder which one is next.
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Strange that this is the whiniest of all of the posts made in the last ten pages or so, though.

We have opinions on things. It is fun to discuss them. The Bungie guys know that we whine because we love.
 
Wizman23 said:
I went to the Cavs game last night so I didn't read the GI article until this morning but wow was it ever fantastic. Came over to GAF and saw about 10 pages of what I thought would be great discussion yet it is nothing but a bitch fest. Some of you guys are real pieces of work. Its a shame that a few posters really ruin this thread, and to be honest I don't know why bungie guys waste their time posting here. You guys already drove out Ferrex with your shit attitudes and crybaby whining, I wonder which one is next.
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I think this thread is great. Fawning over something is all well and good, but well thought out critiques are completely necessary for a forum to thrive. None of the comments so far have been baseless bashing(at least none that I have noticed).

EDIT: And I think it is abundantly clear that the majority of people in this thread enjoy Halo.
 
Wizman23 said:
I went to the Cavs game last night so I didn't read the GI article until this morning but wow was it ever fantastic. Came over to GAF and saw about 10 pages of what I thought would be great discussion yet it is nothing but a bitch fest. Some of you guys are real pieces of work. Its a shame that a few posters really ruin this thread, and to be honest I don't know why bungie guys waste their time posting here. You guys already drove out Ferrex with your shit attitudes and crybaby whining, I wonder which one is next.
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alright sheep?
 
Can we all just reserve our judgments in how we THINK the game will work. Then come May 3rd we can either appreciate or complain about it after we give it a chance to actually try it.
 
Zeouterlimits said:
:lol I wanted to make that joke last night, glad you did it for me.

Gui sums up the response to yours Wizman, people are just passionate and discussing the info as we get it.
Slugs & hugs dude, slugs and hugs.
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Shake Appeal said:
Strange that this is the whiniest of all of the posts made in the last ten pages or so, though.

We have opinions on things. It is fun to discuss them. The Bungie guys know that we whine because we love.
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We're all big Halo fans. And we're obviously passionate about it.

Things might heat up a bit but we
almost
always do it while keeping things respectful.
 
On the subject of Noble actual, Marcus also posted some more information about how the campaign is going. The vegetation is looking like it's coming along very well, and I personally am excited to experience more "mega ambient moments.":D
 
Gui_PT said:
We're all big Halo fans. And we're obviously passionate about it.

Things might heat up a bit but we
almost
always do it while keeping things respectful.
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It's all fun and games until the Halo 3 thread gets locked ...
 
derFeef said:
I think it was the teaser for the new motion comic from 343? I posted it the page back.
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Don't think so, the teaser never had anything similar to that image plus Frankie said it wasn't from 343 Industries I think. Could be wrong about the latter.
 
Merguson said:
Don't think so, the teaser never had anything similar to that image plus Frankie said it wasn't from 343 Industries I think. Could be wrong about the latter.
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Ho. Frankie said that the image didn't have anything to do with 343i.

Also, it's April 1st, and I log on to Halo 3 and see no Mister Chief in the population map. I am sad.
 
Meta Commentary:

I'm surprised that the Laser discussion took over with such force. Of course, bungie seems to have ended the AR start vs BR start debate, so I guess we needed something to yell at each other about.

Commentary on the changes:

Ending the concept of shield penetration for all weapons is such a huge change. It's going to dramatically weaken CQB weapons like the shotgun, which is now a 2 hit kill, or needs to be followed by an immediate melee. That's probably why it's in load outs now, this also begs the question, what about the sword and hammer? I'm going to say, one of those is probably going to penetrate shields, and the other is a two hit kill included in load outs.

I expect the beta loudouts to follow 2 standard formulas: either a role weapon, a pistol and a complementary Armor ability or fairly standard weapon sets (DMR/AR) with different Armor Abilities. When we can customize load outs for games though, we will see some wacky ass stuff.

Questions:

No sweet UI shots of the load out selection screen? sadface.

How much visual warning will we have about what AA our enemy is using? Jetpacks are obvious, but what about sprint, evade, armor lock and camo?

how much power will we have over loadouts when creating them for the final game? Will we be able to set ammo and grenade amounts? Will we be able to modifier player attributes (health speed etc) based on loadout? Will we be able to create power weapon based loadouts?

The article mentions that evade is elite specific, but doesn't mention if the rest are only spartan, or can be used by both races. Is there some subset that applies to both races, or are they all hardlocked to a specific race?

Will we be able to use the Plasma Rifle, even if only in customs?
 
Dax01 said:
On the subject of Noble actual, Marcus also posted some more information about how the campaign is going. The vegetation is looking like it's coming along very well, and I personally am excited to experience more "mega ambient moments.":D
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I really can't wait to see the animations and the AI improvements he's talking about. Animations in Reach are the biggest step-up from the previous games, and the few we already saw are truly amazing.

Speaking of animations, I'm curious to see wheter or not animations like climbing up a ladder are in the game. In the ViDoc there where some hints about something similar (where a Spartan jumps down a cliff or something.

It's an area where Halo 3 and ODST were visibily lacking (though for MP it may not be a viable option, it could slow down things too much).

"mega ambient moments". *wonders*
 
metareferential said:
"mega ambient moments". *wonders*
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I'm guessing stuff like "kicking the rock off the cliff" in silent Cartographer, or getting a radio update when you look out over the carnage of the space elevator on tsavo highway.
 
*Looks at new Reach pictures*

Called it! By that I mean the knife being used in the assassinations. I are happy now. :D
 
electricpirate said:
Ending the concept of shield penetration for all weapons is such a huge change. It's going to dramatically weaken CQB weapons like the shotgun, which is now a 2 hit kill, or needs to be followed by an immediate melee.
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Hm. I didn't read it like that. So, even really up close, it'll take two shots with the shotgun to get a kill?
 
Dax01 said:
Hm. I didn't read it like that. So, even really up close, it'll take two shots with the shotgun to get a kill?
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That's certainly what it sounds like, though they've also said that certain weapons can over-ride that (see sniper rifle). We'll know May 3rd.

1 month and 2 days...
 
Dax01 said:
Hm. I didn't read it like that. So, even really up close, it'll take two shots with the shotgun to get a kill?
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since the first shot can only take out your shields, Im assuming this will now be the case.

Edit: Beaten
 
DualX said:
*Looks at new Reach pictures*

Called it! By that I mean the knife being used in the assassinations. I are happy now. :D
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The first picture we ever saw of assassination was an Elite getting stabbed. Old news.
 
Dax01 said:
Hm. I didn't read it like that. So, even really up close, it'll take two shots with the shotgun to get a kill?
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I am not that familar with damage numbers - is the shotgun damage higher than the shield strength? If yes, it sounds like in Reach you take down the shield and every extra dmg it would do to the health will be ignored. Just the next shot or bullet counts as health damage. Si, it seems like it.

edit: allright I am slow...... :lol
 
Kapura said:
The first picture we ever saw of assassination was an Elite getting stabbed. Old news.
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They weren't in any of the animations though. Must have missed that particular picture you are referring to.
 
NJ Shlice said:
So far the maps we know of are Powerhouse, Swordbase, and Smelter?

Or was Smelter a part of Powerhouse?
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There's a 4th map in there somewhere according to Urk, but he's made it really confusing as to what we are looking at. Next week is the map reveal for the beta though...
 
electricpirate said:
There's a 4th map in there somewhere according to Urk, but he's made it really confusing as to what we are looking at. Next week is the map reveal for the beta though...
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But I remember urk shooting down the notion that Smelter was its own map. I believe he said that Smelter was another section of Powerhouse.

Do you recall this?
 
Perhaps they are only referring to shields needing to be popped when applying head shot damage or melee damage. Perhaps the extra damage still leaks through, it just will not get the head shot multiplier. I am sure the explosives will still be one shot kills when at ground zero.

One of the biggest changes is how the shield barrier and transition state is being handled. Previously you could get a headshot through shields – if your opponent had 10 points of shields and you did 15 points of damage, the remaining 5 points would bleed over to the head. That is no longer the case in Reach.

HAMRICK: If the shields haven’t popped, you won’t be getting headshots or melee kills. You’ll have to pop the shields first; it reads a lot better, certainly as we juggle the health and shield differences in Elites and Spartans in multiplayer. This is true for all weapons except the sniper rifle.
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They only ever mention head shots and melees.
 
It was my understanding that in Halo 3 the damage carried over to a headshot multiplier. Now, the damage will carry over to the body.

A shotgun point blank is an instant kill.
 
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