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[Revelations]

Well seeing how some arcs won't tie into others. This story arc could run along the actual reach story that was presented in the book. So while the actual reach story is going. This reach story could run equivalent to the actual documented story that was in the book.

So by saying that this could be an entirely new story that is running in the background of the actual reach story. So they could take it anywhere. For example: These spartans could be infact a mish mash covert op spartan II's and III's team pulled together from any team, squad company spread across the galaxy. Which would explain the different armor and designation numbers.

Infact I am willing to bet that this is a new story arc within the reach story. And that bungie could release a book before the game comes out explaining the events around these different class of spartans and how they came together. I have no doubt in my mind that these are a mix of SIII's and II's.

 

[Trasher]

Well seeing how some arcs won't tie into others. This story arc could run along the actual reach story that was presented in the book. So while the actual reach story is going. This reach story could run equivalent to the actual documented story that was in the book.

So by saying that this could be an entirely new story that is running in the background of the actual reach story. So they could take it anywhere. For example: These spartans could be infact a mish mash covert op spartan II's and III's team pulled together from any team, squad company spread across the galaxy. Which would explain the different armor and designation numbers.

Infact I am willing to bet that this is a new story arc within the reach story. And that bungie could release a book before the game comes out explaining the events around these different class of spartans and how they came together. I have no doubt in my mind that these are a mix of SIII's and II's.

We've pretty much known that since the release of the first trailer.

I am most curious about what types of Spartans these are. Will be interesting to see how Bungie pulls off explaining who they are and where they've been in the past.

 

[Kibbles]

Yeahhhh

 

[feel]

/\ /\ /\ Beautiful.

Are people on GAF also this offended by the obviously touched up cutscenes on MGS4, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2?? Jesus The Christ!

also is the trailer on xbox marketplace yet? would like to see it on my nice big tv.

Yes, I just downloaded it from there earlier and saw it 6 times straight.

 

[Revelations]

We've pretty much known that since the release of the first trailer.

I am most curious about what types of Spartans these are. Will be interesting to see how Bungie pulls off explaining who they are and where they've been in the past.

yeah but with so much theory going around that was lost in translation. When they announced reach the game at e3, some just concluded that it would be the story events of reach and not some new path that was being portrayed in the background of the actual events in the book.

 

[Blueblur1]

I've always done that in every forum I've ever posted, and nobody has ever complained (maybe it's a Gaf thing, or something) but feel free to keep complaining, because I´m not going to quit doing it.

Bye

Random annoying Junior shows up when new Halo game footage debuts. News at 11, amirite?

In all serious, it's annoying and I find your response to be a little rude.

I suppose we have another Berserker Barage on our hands. Thank God GAF doesn't have signatures turned on.

 

[Plywood]

 

[CrazedArabMan]

Are people on GAF also this offended by the obviously touched up cutscenes on MGS4, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2?? Jesus The Christ!

That's GAF for ya.

 

[vhfive]

Random annoying Junior shows up when new Halo game footage debuts. News at 11, amirite?

In all serious, it's annoying and I find your response to be a little rude.

I suppose we have another Berserker Barage on our hands. Thank God GAF doesn't have signatures turned on.

qft

also is the trailer on xbox marketplace yet? would like to see it on my nice big tv.

 

[Walshicus]

With friends like these...

Fragula's friend:
The dialogue on that is VILE!
Appaling writing!

Fragula:
Yes
Buuuuttt...
The graphics are really nice

Fragula's friend:
Yeah it looks quite pretty

Fragula: And they actually had a female soldier character rendered correctly
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=381359&page=45

Fragula's friend:
She looked a bit like you

 

[Captain Blood]

:lol Saw this over at GT.

This needs to go in the OP.:lol

 

[Kibbles]

GameTrailers is really the site to be. Trolls can't decide if it's CG or Halo 3.

"Wow, CG lol"
"Wow, looks exactly like Halo 3"

wat?

 

[BattleMonkey]

Well seeing how some arcs won't tie into others. This story arc could run along the actual reach story that was presented in the book. So while the actual reach story is going. This reach story could run equivalent to the actual documented story that was in the book.

So by saying that this could be an entirely new story that is running in the background of the actual reach story. So they could take it anywhere. For example: These spartans could be infact a mish mash covert op spartan II's and III's team pulled together from any team, squad company spread across the galaxy. Which would explain the different armor and designation numbers.

Infact I am willing to bet that this is a new story arc within the reach story. And that bungie could release a book before the game comes out explaining the events around these different class of spartans and how they came together. I have no doubt in my mind that these are a mix of SIII's and II's.

They can easily fit in whatever they want, even in the books and various games theres already been tons of mistakes made when it comes to dates, story elements, numbers, etc.

 

[Revelations]

We've pretty much known that since the release of the first trailer.

I am most curious about what types of Spartans these are. Will be interesting to see how Bungie pulls off explaining who they are and where they've been in the past.

Hmm Trasher my previous post also kinda explains why Jorge is bigger than the rest of the others in the group. He is the only sII in the group. Since per my theory these guys are mnade up of rag tag undisclosed sIII companies not yet explained. Or they were just hand picked on the side to be SIII's since you dont have to undergo cybernetic augmentation to be a Spartan III.

 

[Chinner]

soooo hot, want to drive that hog

nope. i still remember when bungle released the first trailer and were like "you can actually go up and drive up there and see shit"

then halo 3 came out and players were assaulted with fucking invisible walls and sub hd.

 

[GhaleonEB]

GameTrailers is really the site to be. Trolls can't decide if it's CG or Halo 3.

"Wow, CG lol"
"Wow, looks exactly like Halo 3"

wat?

They need to convene a conference call and settle on one. :lol

Day after observation #2: the music really kicks ass. I still think it's out of place in such a low-key cinematic, but that theme is lodged in mah brain and won't go away.

 

[Revelations]

They can easily fit in whatever they want, even in the books and various games theres already been tons of mistakes made when it comes to dates, story elements, numbers, etc.

Actually, canon inconsistency aside. They could fit the back story to this team through a book right in somewhere between Pegasi and Reach.

 

[StUnNeR H2K]

Carter 259 is a SIII. The designation numbers don't lie.

How does the number not lie? Spartan-III's have a letter (i.e. B259 for someone in the BETA company class, or G259 for someone in the GAMMA company class) in the designation number...

You people screaming Spartan-III's need to do some research before you start blabbing...

 

[Gribbix]

From an interview last week:

G4: Are there any hidden Easter eggs that readers still haven't found that you want to spoil here -- or at least point everyone in the right direction?
JS: Players recently found the last big one -- and egg that changes a certain piece of music our Composer, Marty O’Donnell, likes to hide in every Halo game into something much more…danceable. But there are always smaller treats to find. Folks looking forward to Halo: Reach would be wise to pay particular attention to the license plates on New Mombasa’s “Genet” coupes…

Here's a list of the license plates in ODST (keep in mind that the exact meaning for the letters is just fan speculation but probably fairly accurate since they fit too well):
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/License_Plate_Eggs

KAH 343G - 343 Guilty Spark, Monitor of Alpha Halo
KBL 117J - John-117, Blue Leader
KBM 101S - Sheila-101, killed in the Battle of Miridem (Sheila's service number was never specified)
KBO 034S - Samuel-034, Blue One
KBT 087K - Kelly-087, Blue Two
KDA 458N - Nicole-458, from Dead or Alive 4
KGL 044A - Anton-044, Gamma Leader
KGN 062M - Maria-062, from the Halo Graphic Novel
KGO 008L - Li-008 Gamma One
KGO 610B
KGT 093G - Grace-093, Gamma Two
KLB 128Y - Yasmine-128 I Love Bees (Yasmine's service number was never specified)
KMA 037R - Randall-037, Missing in Action (Randall's service number was never specified)
KNO 320K - Kat-320, Noble One
KNF 239E - Sierra-239, Noble Four/Five (?)
KNF 266J - Sierra-266, Noble Four/Five (?)
KNL 259C - Carter-259, Noble Leader
KNS 000X - Sierra-000, Noble Six/Seven (?)
KNS 344R - Sierra-344, Noble Six/Seven (?)
KNT 052J - Jorge-052, Noble Two/Three (?)
KNT 293T - Sierra-293, Noble Two/Three (?)
KOP 084F - Fhajad-084, ONI Personnel
KPD 005J - James-005, Presumed Dead
KRL 104F - Fred-104, Red Leader
KVA 1031
KVU 019C
KWA 434K - Bungie Studios, 434 Kirkland Ave, Kirkland, WA
KWO 081R
KWO 071K

I assumed Carter-259 was Noble 1 (from the initial teaser), but the license plates from ODST suggests that it's Kat-320. Also, it looks like there may be up to 8 'Noble' Spartans (Noble Leader + Noble 1 through Noble 7).

 

[pringles]

Greatest realtime trailer in history.

'cept it isn't a trailer.

 

[Kai Ozu]

The music in that trailer is awesome. Looks good too.

 

[Revelations]

How does the number not lie? Spartan-III's have a letter (i.e. B259 for someone in the BETA company class, or G259 for someone in the GAMMA company class) in the designation number...

You people screaming Spartan-III's need to do some research before you start blabbing...

And? Spartan III's have a letter when they are part of a company. These dudes are not part of a company but a squad that looks as if they just came together from different origins. They arn't in a company right now. So there is no designation letter at the beginning of the number as its not needed. Spartan II's designation numbers range from 001 thru 130. These guys designation numbers go into the 200's. They arn't Spartan II's but could be just recently signed up sIII's. Remember anyone within the UNSC can be a sIII. That explains why there is a commander there. All sII's are enlisted personnel ranks.

You need to look at all possible angles.

 

[zumphry]

Anyone mind if I claim this shot as my avatar?

 

[Jonsoncao]

'cept it isn't a trailer.

except it isn't real-time

 

[Keikoku]

except it isn't real-time

It is. Nothing to be surprised of honestly, it doesn't look unreal or anything, I don't get this kind of reactions...

 

[Magni]

Random annoying Junior shows up when new Halo game footage debuts. News at 11, amirite?

In all serious, it's annoying and I find your response to be a little rude.

I suppose we have another Berserker Barage on our hands. Thank God GAF doesn't have signatures turned on.

Berserker whatever pissed me off on the other forums I saw him, wasn't happy when I saw he got an account here. Did he get banned or just randomly stop posting? That 'goddam' dude got banned.

Anyways annoying signature junior, if you want to live longer than those two annoying signature posters did, then you best drop the nonsense, or you can go back to those forums where they don't complain. It's a GAF thing, you've got to deal with it, not us.

/back to Reach fangasming.

 

[pringles]

It is. Nothing to be surprised of honestly, it doesn't look unreal or anything, I don't get this kind of reactions...

Well I think he means that it (probably) wasn't running off a 360 behind the stage when they showed it. So that means it's not real-time. But I don't think anyone doubts that it's rendered by the game-engine itself.

 

[GhaleonEB]

except it isn't real-time

 

[big ander]

Some catch-up after a couple more views:

I like how the female Spartan looks. She's got a build similar to the others, maybe a bit slimmer, and she looks like she's actually a badass soldier. No long flowing locks is a plus (sorry "Babysitter").
I'm indifferent to Skullface. I wouldn't like it if he was the only protagonist, but having him in there really doesn't affect me much.
Sniper guy seems badass.
Definitely seems as if the first mission will either be a boarding mission or, as Trasher said, where the first half of Noble Team crashes.
Zomg the characters look so good.
Music is great, but I expect better from Marty. Maybe I just need to hear it more in context, with shit falling and explosions everywhere and Reach crumbling.

So the info in January is MP info? I want more SP info now!

 

[OverHeat]

lol

 

[Vast Inspiration]

Day after observation #2: the music really kicks ass. I still think it's out of place in such a low-key cinematic, but that theme is lodged in mah brain and won't go away.

The music in that trailer is awesome. Looks good too.

Good men! The music does indeed kick ass. I was getting pretty pissed when I came into this thread last night and people were shitting on the music. Fuck off.

except it isn't real-time

Except he didn't say its real-time. He just said it isn't a trailer, which it isn't. Its just the opening cinematic. Its like it hurts you if someone might even slightly think the game will look good.

One more thing. I hate when devs change how things look in games and don't give a good reason. For instance, when they changed the MC's pads on his hands, Bungie's claim was that it simply "looked cooler". That's not a good enough reason. If a character's design changes from one game,to another, at least put SOMETHING in the game that indicates as to why the design changed.

In Halo 3, When MC fell off Truth's ship, he could have burned off the pads, or they could have shattered. When the Marines found him and did the diagnostics on him, they could have brought a new set of pads or something like that. At least it's something to that puts some thought behind the design and makes the change in style (as well as the story) more coherent.

When the MC's design changed in Halo 2, they had a sequence where he was getting his armor replaced. What was even better was that they tied that in to the initial tutorial and controls setup. Very nice touch.

In my opinion, EVERYTHING, should be done for a (good) reason and have some sort of explanation or indication of thought behind it. It shows a lack of intelligence and sense of what one is doing, when someone claims they did something just for the sake of doing it. It bugs the hell out of me

Every part of me hates you. People like you are so damn annoying, and more often than not, the things you're nitpicking about are because of you're own ignorance.
Hell, Bungie does more explanations for their changes than ANY other dev, but they still have to spell out every thing for nancies like you who want to know why the fucking hands pads are missing.
Use your damn imagination, fuck.

He is missing some armor pieces if that is Mk IV. Like where are his shoulder guards? And why isn't he wearing the standard helmet. You know the one MC has with the shade guard above the visor. Bungie really fucked us on the whole consistency thing.

Like this guy, a prime example of the type of guy who's gonna nitpick and complain over nothing. Especially when Bungie has never stated that this is Mark IV armor and when Frankie has said that armor permutations have nothing to do with their number designation.

You know, I'm a huge Halo fan, but I don't know who pisses me off more; the insecure Halo haters who've hated it since November 15, 2001 because it was the Xbox's baby or the Halo crowd themselves who are the biggest fucking babies ever.

You get more explanations, updates, features, feedback, DLC for Halo games than any other franchise and you still complain over nonsensical, idiotic things.

 

[Blackface]

I don't get why people say it's not in-game. It doesn't look like CG, and it doesn't look overly amazing or anything. Just looks like a current-gen game.

The scope, and art direction are what does it for me.

 

[Metroidvania]

You guys are aware that the "Haters Gonna Hate" came from here, right? :lol

(Unless I'm going crazy from studying, that is...)

edit: Actually, font looks different, maybe it was simultaneous meme generation.

 

[Jonsoncao]

in-engine assets and real-time are different
Halo 3 gameplay jaggies everywhere: real-time
u capture a pic in theatre mode not only its been upscaled to 1080p also infinite AA presence: in-engine

I just hate ppl calling us Halo fans ignorant

 

[Trasher]

You guys are aware that the "Haters Gonna Hate" came from here, right? :lol

(Unless I'm going crazy from studying, that is...)

edit: Actually, font looks different, maybe it was simultaneous meme generation.

I forget who, but it was someone that quoted a screen I posted and added the words on. I was just trying to show off the pistol haha.

 

[Magni]

The Lone Wolf, Sniper, and Army of Two Spartans doesn't have their name or serial number on their collar like Carter Kat, and Jorge.

The Lone Wolf I can get, since it's him we'll probably be playing (maybe we get to put our service tag on it?), but what about the two others. And I'm with Fragula concerning Skullface, that looks so bad, more cringe worthy than the cheesy dialog IMO.

 

[Revelations]

Like this guy, a prime example of the type of guy who's gonna nitpick and complain over nothing. Especially when Bungie has never stated that this is Mark IV armor and when Frankie has said that armor permutations have nothing to do with their number designation.

You need to calm your ass down. First of all that wasn't a complaint I was looking for opinion pieces and a question of motive. I wanted someone to answer me not "look at me bitch and complain at things i don't want the answers to'. get a fuckin grip.

Given the timeframe that this is taking place. A halo aficiando would rightfully suggest it was MJOLNIR IV armor especially with the pre emptive thought that these were indeed spartans. And since that Frankie comment is just a staement within a sea of hidden quotes by the makers. You will get people who has never come across thats statement before. And really it dosn't matter if he stated that or not. Anyone who follows the Halo lore would automatically assume that it's mk. IV anyway given the timeframe.

 

[Caspel]

it looked impressive, that's for sure.

 

[Magni]

Fixed.

 

[big ander]

You guys are aware that the "Haters Gonna Hate" came from here, right? :lol

(Unless I'm going crazy from studying, that is...)

edit: Actually, font looks different, maybe it was simultaneous meme generation.

GAF->GameTrailers->GAF?

 

[chris0701]

Make sure your TV set doesn't perform such a crappy color like these:lol :lol :lol

Not mine,but fun!! Do you like if the Halo:Reach to be sooo coloful to this fucking level??

 

[StUnNeR H2K]

First of Spartan-II =/= Spartan-III, they are two completely different things. The program for the Spartan-II's is completely different from that of the Spartan-III's. Everything from the training to the augmentation. Not sure if you are thinking that Spartan-III's mean the next spartans because a Spartan-II is still greater than a Spartan-III.

Direct quote from the Halo Encyclopedia about Spartan-IIIs:

DESIGNED TO BE PRODUCED more quickly, more cheaply, and to be expended in near impossible, high-casualty missions, Spartan-IIIs were the brainchild of Colonel James Ackerson of ONI. The project was classified top secret, and was kept hidden from all but one of the existing Spartans and even from Dr. Halsey.

And? Spartan III's have a letter when they are part of a company. These dudes are not part of a company but a squad that looks as if they just came together from different origins. They arn't in a company right now.

They still would maintain the A, B, G or D letter in front of their name. The Alpha, Beta, Gamma isn't just a company thing, it's also a designation from what class of Spartan-III's they came from. So the letter has more importance than to just what group they roll with.

Spartan II's designation numbers range from 001 thru 130.

Actually wrong... to 150. Originally 150 kids were selected, and thus a potential to have a number 150, but of course only 75 of those 150 ended up being selected. Spartan-141 was in one of the recent Halo Legends episodes.

These guys designation numbers go into the 200's.

If a second class of Spartan II's was ever formed then yes the numbers could go into the 200's or higher depending on how many were selected to be the next set of Spartan-II's to be trained.

Remember anyone within the UNSC can be a sIII.

Not sure this is true. The selection process for the Spartan-IIIs is not as tight as Spartan-IIs, but nobody could walk into a ONI/UNSC office and say "hey I want to be a Spartan-III". Look back at the quote from the Halo Encyclopedia, the Spartan-III project was top secret... even secret enough to keep away from Dr. Halsey the brains behind the Spartan-IIs.

You need to look at all possible angles.

I'll look at all possible angles when one of them actually looks like a Spartan-III, or has a letter in front of the number. Until then I'm sticking to what factual canon we have at hand and saying they are all Spartan-IIs.

 

[Gribbix]

I just went back to watch the initial trailer. I didn't notice it initially, but Kat-320 does talk in the teaser so high command was indeed referring to her when they were calling out to Noble 1. However, she becomes unresponsive and Carter-259 replies instead.

Kat-320: This is Sierra-320. Prepped for combat insertion.
*loud explosion*
Random Guy: What the hell was that?!
*More com chatter*
High command male: I need you in that fight, Noble 1.
High command male: Noble 1, come in.
High command male: Noble 1, do you read me?
Carter-259: This is Sierra-259. You've got Spartans on the ground, sir.

 

[Vast Inspiration]

You need to calm your ass down. First of all that wasn't a complaint I was looking for opinion pieces and a question of motive. I wanted someone to answer me not "look at me bitch and complain at things i don't want the answers to'. get a fuckin grip.

Given the timeframe that this is taking place. A halo aficiando would rightfully suggest it was MJOLNIR IV armor especially with the pre emptive thought that these were indeed spartans. And since that Frankie comment is just a staement within a sea of hidden quotes by the makers. You will get people who has never come across thats statement before. And really it dosn't matter if he stated that or not. Anyone who follows the Halo lore would automatically assume that it's mk. IV anyway given the timeframe.

Opinion pieces and questions of motive? It was a fucking complaint and NO ONE else had it.
and ANYONE who did follow the Halo lore, would not suggest that thats a Mark IV and Bungie fucked up consistency. Considering armor permutations have been in 2 Halo games now, people who use common sense and realize that armor can be different.

 

[GhaleonEB]

in-engine assets and real-time are different
Halo 3 gameplay jaggies everywhere: real-time
u capture a pic in theatre mode not only its been upscaled to 1080p also infinite AA presence: in-engine

I just hate ppl calling us Halo fans ignorant

I'm aware of all those things. I'm laughing people thinking the trailer is bursting with stuff that's simply impossible, and are fumbling around for explanations for why, other than the game looks good.

We'll see if it holds up in-game; the Halo 3 media didn't. I've said that before in this thread. But the assertion that it's not real-time is simply comic until we have something to show otherwise.

 

[Trasher]

I just went back to watch the initial trailer. I didn't notice it initially, but Kat-320 does talk in the teaser so high command was indeed referring to her when they were calling out to Noble 1. However, she becomes unresponsive and Carter-259 replies instead.

Listen to the end of the new trailer. Kat calls herself, or her aircraft, Noble 2. You should go back and read my post I wrote up earlier. I'm almost 100% that Carter is Noble 1.

 

[Vast Inspiration]

Real time is always In-Engine
In-Engine isn't always Real time

The Halo 3 cutscenes looked great, and they were being processed in REAL TIME. They weren't pre-recorded videos in-engine, they were being produced in real time. The 360 CAN output these graphics with high AA, but probably not with the same IQ in gameplay.
This is deifnitely in-engine, but its yet to be known whether its real time. Geof Keighley says its real time probably because Bungie told him so.

Listen to the end of the new trailer. Kat calls herself, or her aircraft, Noble 2. You should go back and read my post I wrote up earlier. I'm almost 100% that Carter is Noble 1.

All she says is "This is Sierra-320, pressed for combat insertion."
*Shit happens* *Explosions*
Later on the comm guy says "I need you in that fight Noble One. Noble One, come in. Noble One, do you read me?"
There are long silence and no one responds...
Then, after a while, the response is "This is Sierra-259. You've got Spartans on the ground sir. We're not going anywhere."

When S-259 responds, he's not responding as Noble One, he's just letting the comm-guy know that there are still Spartans on the ground. If he was Noble One, he wouldn't have identified himself first as Sierra-259. Noble One (Kat) may have died in the crash.

 

[NemesisPrime]

except it isn't real-time

It most certainly is... but probably running on a PC with the full AA treatment. Also remember that switching to "boring" colors also does wonders for the "jaggies". I expect Reach to look very similar to this trailer.

 

[The Librarian]

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soooo hot, want to drive that hog[/QUOTE]
Yep.

 

[Gribbix]

Listen to the end of the new trailer. Kat calls herself, or her aircraft, Noble 2. You should go back and read my post I wrote up earlier. I'm almost 100% that Carter is Noble 1.

That's what I thought too (Carter = Noble One), but the ODST license plates suggest otherwise. They suggest that Carter is Noble Leader and Kat is Noble One. Also, which of your posts are you referring to?