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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed

Ramirez

Member
Dax01 said:
Are you sure? The episode premieres the morning of April 16th, tomorrow morning ("tonight), at 12:30 AM; it says so on the website. Plus, it makes more sense this way, as it follows the past few weeks when it comes to releasing new information about the Beta. The BWU will come after to help explain what was shown in the episode.

Edit: H2 servers are still up. I wonder what's up.

I told you guys it was Friday night days ago, but no one wants to believe me. The DVR doesn't lie friends.
 
Hey Gui if your still there im up for playing customs, sorry about before ive just been popping in Halo 2 to check if its still alive, I didnt see your message - sorry!
 
i just played a couple games of H2 over lunch (much to my surprise) and ended up with a level 7 in team slayer. i think that's a perfect place to leave things at.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
urk said:
That's because we have exactly zip to do with it. No clue why the switch is still stuck in the on position, but it's cool to see people still going strong.
If I didnt have school I would have still been playing :lol

Still hate the fact I took so many energy shots too stay up, my god those things are terrible for you if you take more than one even if 5 to 6 hours pass after the first.
 
wwm0nkey said:
If I didnt have school I would have still been playing :lol

Still hate the fact I took so many energy shots too stay up, my god those things are terrible for you if you take more than one even if 5 to 6 hours pass after the first.

Haha did you do a all nighter then? I cant even remember when I stopped playing with you but im pretty sure I got exausted and just took a break when it was nightime in America :lol

P.S. Your not Imonkey on HBO are you?
 
Ramirez said:
Oh, and flipping through peoples names last night, I discovered the best Clan ever, UpYoursW4nker. :lol
guess who

Actually I thnk you'll find its "upursw4nker" :lol
I didn't make it I swear
 

Ramirez

Member
BladedExpert said:
Actually I thnk you'll find its "upursw4nker" :lol
I didn't make it I swear

I had a good lol at it at 11 AM yesterday, those SMG start matches we kept getting were great too. :p
 
Ramirez said:
I had a good lol at it at 11 AM yesterday, those SMG start matches we kept getting were great too. :p

Those were the 3 worst games I played all day. Gemini SMG starts twice in a row then Elongation with SMG's...

Fair play though, you beat me 2-1 overall.

Bastard :p
 

Ramirez

Member
BladedExpert said:
Those were the 3 worst games I played all day. Gemini SMG starts twice in a row then Elongation with SMG's...

Fair play though, you beat me 2-1 overall.

Bastard :p

Pretty sure aside from Chiron, Gemini is the worst map in the entire series.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
ExpertZone members get the beta on the 29th.

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chess

Member
I don't think we should be concerned about any flair or prizes. The last day "out with a bag" type of feeling was incentive enough to get online and play an oldie.

As flawed as the game can be at times, without it, many relationships and Xbox Live as we know it might not exist.
 

Nutter

Member
Ramirez said:
What is Expert Zone?
Microsoft Retail Program
[If you work at a retailer who sells xbox stuf, you can make an account and complete surveys, giving you points then you can spend those points on games and stuff. ]

And yeah, it says details, the FnF starts *on the 29th. :p
 

Not a Jellyfish

but I am a sheep
electricpirate said:
Ms program for retail monkeys to get cheap stuff.

Of course it says details, not access on the 29th.

Will probably get details to take a course on Expert Zone and then once complete will get a code that activates on the 3rd. :/
 
Which is sort of funny because I'm sure most ExpertZone users grabbed ODST for 9.99 back in Dec. of last year, so they don't need a free Beta code.
 

MrDaravon

Member
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Sudden Death :lol

Two greasy tacos and some delicious coffee later, I'll probably hop back on in a few minutes, at least assuming it's still going then.

And to re-iterate my previous posts since I'm slightly more awake and I think they came off crankier than I intended; if Live is still up because MS fucked up, then it's all good (although I'm curious how Bungie will handle the "last" game thing). The only reason I have even the slightest doubt that it wasn't a MS fuckup is that I cannot find reference absolutely anywhere to a midnight date being provided from any other source than Bungie, or someone else sourcing Bungie. If Bungie did somehow mess up the timing (which again is probably very unlikely) I'd hope they would do something nice for the community (like beta codes, maybe a slight extension of the Reach beta, or something like that), or at least those who were on then. I don't think that would actually happen, but it would still be a nice gesture, especially since Bungie probably treats it's fans better than anyone else.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
SailorDaravon said:
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Sudden Death :lol

Two greasy tacos and some delicious coffee later, I'll probably hop back on in a few minutes, at least assuming it's still going then.

And to re-iterate my previous posts since I'm slightly more awake and I think they came off crankier than I intended; if Live is still up because MS fucked up, then it's all good (although I'm curious how Bungie will handle the "last" game thing). The only reason I have even the slightest doubt that it wasn't a MS fuckup is that I cannot find reference absolutely anywhere to a midnight date being provided from any other source than Bungie, or someone else sourcing Bungie. If Bungie did somehow mess up the timing (which again is probably very unlikely) I'd hope they would do something nice for the community (like beta codes, maybe a slight extension of the Reach beta, or something like that), or at least those who were on then. I don't think that would actually happen, but it would still be a nice gesture, especially since Bungie probably treats it's fans better than anyone else.

Oh come on. Because Halo 2's end wasn't as precise as originally thought, you should get a Reach beta code or something? Does not compute. You should be hopping on for a few more games while the game is still active if you are inclined and consider yourself lucky for a few more hours of the game being available rather than making demands that you be compensated for this "error".
 

Chrange

Banned
Dani said:
Oh come on. Because Halo 2's end wasn't as precise as originally thought, you should get a Reach beta code or something? Does not compute. You should be hopping on for a few more games while the game is still active if you are inclined and consider yourself lucky for a few more hours of the game being available rather than making demands that you be compensated for this "error".
Yeah, I don't understand the people who seem so upset that Halo 2 is still active instead of simply going and playing more of it. I mean you ruined your day by playing the game late? Welcome to reality, where that's YOUR FAULT, not anyone else's. :lol
 
SailorDaravon said:
35jky1k.jpg


Sudden Death :lol

Two greasy tacos and some delicious coffee later, I'll probably hop back on in a few minutes, at least assuming it's still going then.

And to re-iterate my previous posts since I'm slightly more awake and I think they came off crankier than I intended; if Live is still up because MS fucked up, then it's all good (although I'm curious how Bungie will handle the "last" game thing). The only reason I have even the slightest doubt that it wasn't a MS fuckup is that I cannot find reference absolutely anywhere to a midnight date being provided from any other source than Bungie, or someone else sourcing Bungie. If Bungie did somehow mess up the timing (which again is probably very unlikely) I'd hope they would do something nice for the community (like beta codes, maybe a slight extension of the Reach beta, or something like that), or at least those who were on then. I don't think that would actually happen, but it would still be a nice gesture, especially since Bungie probably treats it's fans better than anyone else.

Major Nelson had a countdown on his site, which is now gone and replaced with a message saying XBL is dead.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Chrange said:
Yeah, I don't understand the people who seem so upset that Halo 2 is still active instead of simply going and playing more of it. I mean you ruined your day by playing the game late? Welcome to reality, where that's YOUR FAULT, not anyone else's. :lol
And it's not "Halo 2" that's still active. It's support for Xbox 1 titles over Live. The sense of entitlement for the bonus getting to play beyond the expected cut off is mind-boggling. "I got to play Halo 2 longer than expected, so I deserve an additional reward." The fuck?
 

MrDaravon

Member
Sigh, people missing the point and reminding me why I rarely post in this thread.

They planned a community event for a specific time, which many people went out of their way to attend and try to get the last game in, and it's now run 15 hours past that point. How would you feel if you attended an event and they said they were going to have a raffle for a prize, then that time came and you had to wait over 15 hours past when they said they were going to draw for the prize?

To re-iterate AGAIN, if this is not Bungie's mess up it's hardly their fault and I place no blame on them at all. But IF this is their mess up it would be nice if they did something for the people who tried to participate at the end as requested. I said beta codes because it would be a nice gesture, and the vast majority of people playing I'm sure have ODST, so it would just be a slight convenience to people so they could play off the HDD instead of the ODST disc or something. I'm not suggesting that they get people in a week early or something, Christ. I'm unlikely to be around for the beta at all unfortunately anyway, so it's not like I'm personally asking for anything here since there's zero benefit to me since I already played on the last day for whatever the Reach flair is.

randomlyrossy said:
Major Nelson had a countdown on his site, which is now gone and replaced with a message saying XBL is dead.

? It says it ends today.
 
SailorDaravon said:
Sigh, people missing the point and reminding me why I rarely post in this thread.

They planned a community event for a specific time, which many people went out of their way to attend and try to get the last game in, and it's now run 15 hours past that point. How would you feel if you attended an event and they said they were going to have a raffle for a prize, then that time came and you had to wait over 15 hours past when they said they were going to draw for the prize?

To re-iterate AGAIN, if this is not Bungie's mess up it's hardly their fault and I place no blame on them at all. But IF this is their mess up it would be nice if they did something for the people who tried to participate at the end as requested. I said beta codes because it would be a nice gesture, and the vast majority of people playing I'm sure have ODST, so it would just be a slight convenience to people so they could play off the HDD instead of the ODST disc or something. I'm not suggesting that they get people in a week early or something, Christ. I'm unlikely to be around for the beta at all unfortunately anyway, so it's not like I'm personally asking for anything here since there's zero benefit to me since I already played on the last day for whatever the Reach flair is.



? It says it ends today.
If you have to wait a couple of weeks to get said prize, what possible difference would 15 hours make? The treat is that you get a little longer to have fun at the event.
 
GhaleonEB said:
And it's not "Halo 2" that's still active. It's support for Xbox 1 titles over Live. The sense of entitlement for the bonus getting to play beyond the expected cut off is mind-boggling. "I got to play Halo 2 longer than expected, so I deserve an additional reward." The fuck?

Hey dont get me wrong, im loving the fact that its extended and im really not having a go at Bungie or MS or anything. Im just hopeing Bungie consider sticking to the original plan of handing out prizes to people who played on the 14th.


A lot of people burned themselves out playing all day to have a go at a few of the prizes and it would suck if the fresh people who play all day on the 15th won :lol
 

MrDaravon

Member
squidhands said:
If you have to wait a couple of weeks to get said prize, what possible difference would 15 hours make? The treat is that you get a little longer to have fun at the event.

This:

bobs99 ... said:
Hey dont get me wrong, im loving the fact that its extended and im really not having a go at Bungie or MS or anything. Im just hopeing Bungie consider sticking to the original plan of handing out prizes to people who played on the 14th.


A lot of people burned themselves out playing all day to have a go at a few of the prizes and it would suck if the fresh people who play all day on the 15th won :lol

If they would say that nothing pats midnight last night "counted" and anything happening today is just for funsies then that would pretty much settle it, although I would still be pretty annoyed since I would have crashed at 3 am this morning and not 6 am. Would still appreciate knowing whether or not it was a Bungie or MS screw-up though. That said I'm still playing now and having a blast, definietely have warmed back up to the game as opposed to how I felt 24 hours ago. Ryan on the Giantbomb stream was right, I've played this so much in the last day or so that the game doesn't look old at all anymore :lol
 

GhaleonEB

Member
bobs99 ... said:
Hey dont get me wrong, im loving the fact that its extended and im really not having a go at Bungie or MS or anything. Im just hopeing Bungie consider sticking to the original plan of handing out prizes to people who played on the 14th.

A lot of people burned themselves out playing all day to have a go at a few of the prizes and it would suck if the fresh people who play all day on the 15th won :lol
Unless I'm entirely misunderstanding the idea behind the prizes Bungie is giving out, Live support for Halo 2 being extended a bit would not affect the reward that was planned for people who played on the 14th, or any of the other prizes for that matter. And if they extend the Reach "flair" token to those who played after the planned cutoff on the 14th, but not on the 14th, I also don't see anything wrong with that.

The only prize I can see being affected is the one for those who played the last game of Halo 2 on Live. Bungie could do one of three things: award the prize to those who played on the last game of the 14th, to those who play on the last game before the plug is finally pulled, or both. I think any of the those would be fair.

I guess I'm just missing why Bungie is required to do anything outside of their original plans here. The idea was to have a final send of off Halo 2, and give some goodies away to the hardcore community who helped do so. I can't think of a single way that having the end time of that event pushed out really affects anyone. I may be simply not understanding what you guys are saying, but the entire notion that Bungie has to react to this is mystifying.
 
I think a better analogy would be the ball dropping in Times Square or the demolition of a famous landmark like a baseball stadium. If there was a publicized time for these events (complete with a countdown timer), don't you think the crowd that had gathered would be a little perplexed when 5, 4, 3, 2, 1... Then nothing? Don't get me wrong, my send-off was near perfect, especially with the extra hour to play 1 Flag Fast on Lockout with AJ, then close the night in decisive victory on Terminal.

Still, I was looking forward to that moment when the connections went red, everyone started walking into walls, "Guys, anybody there?" and then... main menu. Just Dustin Echoes. Exeunt Halo 2 and OG Live.

Oh well, this is the way XBL ends, not with a bang but with a whimper.
 

feel

Member
Louis Wu said:
Sketch has already confirmed that while they'll get CODES on the 29th, they won't work until the 3rd.
Really? My friend will be devastated if this applies to the Halo 2 codes too lol.. he was hoping to get in on the 29. :lol

which I'm hoping for, cause if I don't get into F&F, the less people I have on my friends list playing it early, the better
 
GhaleonEB said:
Unless I'm entirely misunderstanding the idea behind the prizes Bungie is giving out, Live support for Halo 2 being extended a bit would not affect the reward that was planned for people who played on the 14th, or any of the other prizes for that matter. And if they extend the Reach "flair" token to those who played after the planned cutoff on the 14th, but not on the 14th, I also don't see anything wrong with that.

The only prize I can see being affected is the one for those who played the last game of Halo 2 on Live. Bungie could do one of three things: award the prize to those who played on the last game of the 14th, to those who play on the last game before the plug is finally pulled, or both. I think any of the those would be fair.

I guess I'm just missing why Bungie is required to do anything outside of their original plans here. The idea was to have a final send of off Halo 2, and give some goodies away to the hardcore community who helped do so. I can't think of a single way that having the end time of that event pushed out really affects anyone. I may be simply not understanding what you guys are saying, but the entire notion that Bungie has to react to this is mystifying.

Im hoping that your right and they stick to the original plan but after playing for hours yesterday im worried that they will hand out prizes to the people who played today. They have been pretty ambigious about this whole thing.

I dont think your comments were directed at me, but ill clarify my stance on it - I had a BLAST on Halo 2 yesterday and I really doubt I will get a special prize anyway. Im just saying it would be nice to be in the running. The gameplay was prize enough for me but winning something extra amazing in Reach to commemorate my final actions in Halo 2 would be a pretty epic cherry on top.

So yeah a lot of people went without sleep to see Halo 2 to its conclusion and to try and build up the best matchmaking stats. They then went to sleep REALLY late and havent had a chance to play today. It would be pretty sucky if that put them out of contention for the extra cool prizes. Either way I liked what you wrote and I hope Bungie is thinking along the same lines.
 
Syracuse022 said:
I think a better analogy would be the ball dropping in Times Square or the demolition of a famous landmark like a baseball stadium. If there was a publicized time for these events (complete with a countdown timer), don't you think the crowd that had gathered would be a little perplexed when 5, 4, 3, 2, 1... Then nothing? Don't get me wrong, my send-off was near perfect, especially with the extra hour to play 1 Flag Fast on Lockout with AJ, then close the night in decisive victory on Terminal.

Still, I was looking forward to that moment when the connections went red, everyone started walking into walls, "Guys, anybody there?" and then... main menu. Just Dustin Echoes. Exeunt Halo 2 and OG Live.

Oh well, this is the way XBL ends, not with a bang but with a whimper.
I think that is exactly why some people are frustrated. I'm not really concerned about getting any prizes, but I can see how some people are disappointed, especially the people that stayed up really late and then had to get up early to go to class, work, or whatever. Anyway. Just had a really bad game on Lockout with vhfive and I think he abandoned me :lol
 

wwm0nkey

Member
Louis Wu said:
Sketch has already confirmed that while they'll get CODES on the 29th, they won't work until the 3rd.
Guessing thats when the Halo 2 "fans" will also get codes too, sucks you cant use it till the 3rd though.
 

MrDaravon

Member
GhaleonEB said:
Unless I'm entirely misunderstanding the idea behind the prizes Bungie is giving out, Live support for Halo 2 being extended a bit would not affect the reward that was planned for people who played on the 14th, or any of the other prizes for that matter. And if they extend the Reach "flair" token to those who played after the planned cutoff on the 14th, but not on the 14th, I also don't see anything wrong with that.

The only prize I can see being affected is the one for those who played the last game of Halo 2 on Live. Bungie could do one of three things: award the prize to those who played on the last game of the 14th, to those who play on the last game before the plug is finally pulled, or both. I think any of the those would be fair.

I guess I'm just missing why Bungie is required to do anything outside of their original plans here. The idea was to have a final send of off Halo 2, and give some goodies away to the hardcore community who helped do so. I can't think of a single way that having the end time of that event pushed out really affects anyone. I may be simply not understanding what you guys are saying, but the entire notion that Bungie has to react to this is mystifying.

Bungie only needs to "react" if the mess-up with the shutdown time was on their end. Assuming it's not, all they need to do is clarify what bob is talking about in regards to pulling the "winners", as in will they be counting the last game on the 14th, or the last game today.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
bobs99 ... said:
Im hoping that your right and they stick to the original plan but after playing for hours yesterday im worried that they will hand out prizes to the people who played today. They have been pretty ambigious about this whole thing.
They do these kind of events often; IIRC, they done them the past few Bungie Day celebrations. The only ambiguous element was the specific events they'll be raining goodies down on, and that's intentional (and also a tradition at this point).

I suspect whatever resolution is arrived at will be fair to everyone involved. I don't think it's anyting to worry over either way - this is, literally, just fun and games.
SailorDaravon said:
Bungie only needs to "react" if the mess-up with the shutdown time was on their end.
It's already established that it's not.

SailorDaravon said:
Assuming it's not, all they need to do is clarify what bob is talking about in regards to pulling the "winners", as in will they be counting the last game on the 14th, or the last game today.
Agree on that last point. I'm sure a handful of players are hanging on for dear life trying to be in the last game today.
 

Ramirez

Member
Throwback is up, population is around 6K right now. I was enjoying myself until I got Standoff Flag and a host warthog killed me relentlessly, good times. I also don't understand why Valhalla is in the playlist either, but whatever.

Why do I get the feeling most of you wouldn't have even played Halo 2 if there wasn't some sort of prize dangling in front of you? :lol I think some of you missed the point of the entire thing. =\
 

MrDaravon

Member
GhaleonEB said:
It's already established that it's not.

Did they? I totally missed that then, my bad.

Ramirez said:
Why do I get the feeling most of you wouldn't have even played Halo 2 if there wasn't some sort of prize dangling in front of you? :lol I think some of you missed the point of the entire thing. =\

I think most of us who still play Halo in general would have sure. There were a lot of people who got on to play one game to get the Reach flair and then bailed though sure. I've played 55 games since yesterday, wow :lol
 
Ramirez said:
Throwback is up, population is around 6K right now. I was enjoying myself until I got Standoff Flag and a host warthog killed me relentlessly, good times. I also don't understand why Valhalla is in the playlist either, but whatever.

Why do I get the feeling most of you wouldn't have even played Halo 2 if there wasn't some sort of prize dangling in front of you? :lol I think some of you missed the point of the entire thing. =\

Its insane that one playlist in Halo 3 is 3 times bigger than the whole population of Halo 2.

Ramirez let me put it this way, imagine you went to your favorite resturant, and they said that whoever eats and then gets desert is put into a lucky draw to get a special prize. Either way its win-win right?

Im just hoping that my entry isnt pretty much screwed over by the people who got desert without eating the whole meal. After all its much easier that way. Eating desert was nice, but winning a prize for eating desert would be amazing.

Damn this is probably the weirdest way ive tried to get a point across ever
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Ramirez said:
Throwback is up, population is around 6K right now. I was enjoying myself until I got Standoff Flag and a host warthog killed me relentlessly, good times. I also don't understand why Valhalla is in the playlist either, but whatever.

Why do I get the feeling most of you wouldn't have even played Halo 2 if there wasn't some sort of prize dangling in front of you? :lol I think some of you missed the point of the entire thing. =\

I'd be down for some throwback if you're on later. Just hit me up if you wanna play.

Also, even though Halo 2 is still up and running, I feel as though I've properly said good-bye. I played it for 2 days, streamed it, had a lot of customs going with my favorite games, some wacky stuff and a good amount of matchmaking as well. All that's left is the mini montage. Playing Halo 2 again made me realize and appreciate the differences between it and Halo 3.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
Ramirez said:
Why do I get the feeling most of you wouldn't have even played Halo 2 if there wasn't some sort of prize dangling in front of you? :lol I think some of you missed the point of the entire thing. =\

The probability of winning is so low, I can't imagine anyone going in with the mindset to "win" anything.

I enjoyed seeing the Halo 2 maps in their prime - in proper matches, as I missed the boat all those years ago. To be honest, the game hasn't aged well, Halo 3 just has better mechanics and flows so much better but at least I got to enjoy the small things Halo 2 has, such as the diverse maps and things like hitscan.

As a regular Halo 3 player, dipping into Halo 2 for a few nights was easily one of the best ways to prepare for the Reach beta, it allows the fans to see and play three generations of online Halo 3 titles almost right next to each other.

When the beta fires up and I can finally form an opinion on the game play and maps and flow, I can directly relate it back to Halo 3 AND Halo 2, both of which I'll have had direct experience with. I think it'll let me and a lot of other player appreciate, not just all of the games themselves based on their own merits, but the evolution of the games and game play throughout the series in a short period of time.

Like I said yesterday, playing Halo 2 has made me more excited for Reach, whether by co-incidence or not, that can only be a good thing.
 
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