I don't wanna speak too soon (but I'm gonna anyway), but it seems like they're continuing the token sandbox redundancy that has plagued the later games in the series.
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I don't wanna speak too soon (but I'm gonna anyway), but it seems like they're continuing the token sandbox redundancy that has plagued the later games in the series.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
I assume it will fire faster than the AR and have more spread than it too. Probably a bit weaker maybe shot damage wise.
Fata1moose
Banned
Great information from today, with Midship in Halo 5, I would guess that's out as one of the remakes for Anniversary, which is fine as Halo 3 has a pretty good visual upgrade with Heretic. The weapons look nice, strange that they are limiting the sandbox for the beta, but hopefully it's an indication of fine tuning the weapon balance; if that red dot sight on the BR is so bothersome, maybe they'll have time to actually change it. If only one thing carries over from Halo 4 I hope it's the rail gun, that thing was pretty great.
As for the Master Chief collection, I hope Delta Halo sees some improvements, of course it's a work in progress, but it was definitely lacking. Sanctuary looks awesome, hope to see Lockout and Terminal as the final two reveals.
As for the Master Chief collection, I hope Delta Halo sees some improvements, of course it's a work in progress, but it was definitely lacking. Sanctuary looks awesome, hope to see Lockout and Terminal as the final two reveals.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
If no one on waypoint complains about the Red Dot sight, it probably won't get changed after the beta.
TheOhrenberger.
Banned
Watched some of that 60fps footage and wow it looks good. It was a little off-putting at first since, you know, we've been playing Halo at 30fps for 10+ years now but by the end of the video it looked natural and I've been watching it over and over and over since. Can't wait!
Fata1moose
Banned
If it functions the same it really doesn't matter, though if it has a different zoom I could see some outcry, or maybe the community will actually like the tweaks.
My main concern is that all the talk in the world about "competitive," "arena," "player vs. player" doesn't mean jack shit if the aim assist is still way too high and the strafe is worthless.
l Zealot l
Member
Good news to wake up to
GringoSuave89
Banned
ArchedThunder
Banned
60fps Halo is trippn' me the fuck out. I'm used to 60fps, and I'm used to Halo, but this is something I'm not used to at all. I'll get used to it, but seeing Halo at 60fps for the first time is weird as fuck.
TheOhrenberger.
Banned
I don't know why people are getting so worked up over the red dot site. Do people really think this means Halo is going to be an ADS shooter?
Orochinagis
Member
Pretty much.
TheOhrenberger.
Banned
Talk about jumping to conclusions...
All great news today, but please god, don't let Halo 5 be ADS. It would ruin the game for me.
Why not?
Why not?
It's beautiful.
User 73706
Banned
You broke my heart when I realized you were only a militant purveyor of mid-tempo arena shooter gaming on consoles. Where's the love for Quake? PCs?
HigherLevel
Member
Nothing but good news today.
I know there has been speculation with the way they've worded things that equal starts might be limited to the arena mode in Halo 5, but as long as I can play classic Halo 4 v 4 in some form I don't care if they go crazy with BTB or whatever else is in MP.
I know there has been speculation with the way they've worded things that equal starts might be limited to the arena mode in Halo 5, but as long as I can play classic Halo 4 v 4 in some form I don't care if they go crazy with BTB or whatever else is in MP.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
I'm gonna keep mine just because it looks like the White Sunset Bundle won't include a Kinect.
I'm not giving up the Kinect. I hope they sell a white Kinect separately.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Hell yes. I'm a 4v4 competitive player at heart, but I love some BTB action from time to time. I'd love to see them separate the two a little more. The base gameplay should stay the same, of course, but the goals and tone could be totally different and still be great.
It might be like the Suppressor from Halo 4: high rate of fire and quick kill times in very close quarters, but low damage per round and high bullet spread, so it's useless at range.
Like it or not, it seems like MS is quickly abandoning Kinect.
So we can look forward to the current system of 'back out with no consequences before the match starts' matchmaking?
Oh boy.
That dang ELO, its not good for anything!
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
if they have the "bring scope to eye" animation, whats the point of having that animation? we didnt need it for the other 7 games, so why start now?
There has to be a reason for a superflous change like that. see above.
Letting people exit matches with no record of doing so is less to do with any ranking system and more why someone chose to not feed those events into the ranking system.
Well I suppose that is true.
Let's hope quitting out counts as a loss in the future.
There's a long history there and a debate that I don't care to get into again. Suffice it to say that I have very taboo opinions about the console vs. PC debate.
I'm a militant purveyor of balanced, skill-based multiplayer gameplay, and that takes different forms depending on the game and platform.
Bungie added a red dot sight to the smg in ODST. It didn't change anything except let us zoom in like we normally would thanks to its build in scope. I don't think we need to be worried.
Scopes in halo don't need to be traditional scopes. Just look at the pistols. They just have a mini camera on the front.
This could simply be an aesthetic change to help differentiate the weapon from a DMR in player hands, without changing the gameplay at all.
People are seriously jumping to conclusions regarding the red dot site. I highly, highly doubt this means ADS is coming to Halo. Chances are it's an aesthetic change and a reduction in the BR's zoom.
Something I think I would be okay with. It'd allow them to nerf the DMR slightly whilst still keeping it as a viable medium to long range weapon. Whereas the BR would become a short to medium range weapon.
Or it might not change the gameplay at all and just be a model change.
Something I think I would be okay with. It'd allow them to nerf the DMR slightly whilst still keeping it as a viable medium to long range weapon. Whereas the BR would become a short to medium range weapon.
Or it might not change the gameplay at all and just be a model change.
Yup. I'd imagine it's to differentiate between a short/med ranged weapon in the BR vs the long range DMR. Now only one has a scope. It's probably just aesthetic.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Adding ADS to Halo would be a sure fire way for 343 to ruin any remaining trust they have with their fan base. There's no way they'll do it. At the very most, I could see them adding it to close range weapons (AR, SMG, shotty, etc), which I think I'd be okay with.
Orochinagis
Member
I want to the SMG in action, it would be my favorite close combat weapon depending of its utility
StalkerUKCG
Banned
That Tube Launcher in halo 5 looks strange. SMG return in Halo 5 is interesting since they said no Dual Wielding. No Propipe is sad.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Aw man, that would've been awesome.
NobleGundam
Banned
An alternate fire Sticky Det that could act like the Propipe except with emp firing would be quite interesting.
The question is, what's its utility? Where we left off in Halo 4, you had the SAW as a power weapon with close range, and the AR as a short-to-medium range weapon with a shallow clip. So is the SMG just going to serve as the bullethose like the CE AR? Because there's not really any other point to it that I can see.
Also, if you haven't taken a glance at the press shots there's some nice ones in there. The Elites look pretty solid, an interesting blend of Halo 2 and 3 silhouettes with some Reach touches.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
PachinkoChampBruh
Member
lol, wat is this.
A lock-on rocket launcher, anti-vehicle weapon?
looks like a smaw for cod mw3
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
Then close range fights would come down to who ads's first
NobleGundam
Banned
Good. That's what I assumed beforehand.
Single shot rockets? Hmm..
lol, wat is this.
A lock-on rocket launcher, anti-vehicle weapon?
looks like a smaw for cod mw3
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
Or another power weapon. Why make a change to the rockets?
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah. My first thought was "it could have no effect on bullet spread", but ADSing would still make people more tunnel visioned and less mobile, which would have adverse effects on the gameplay for little / no pay off.
Should've drank some coffee and stayed awake.The water looks GORGEOUS! I feel like I can drink it with my Spartans face.
Little dissapointed about the lack of larger game modes for the beta but it's fine. The beta seems to be emphasizing the presence of arena coming back. I just hope we can get some info on the larger game modes soon (a little before or after the beta).
I highly doubt ADS will ever be a thing.
The weapons look really good but the sword model is weird. Might be the angle? I hope we aren't losing the Rocket Launcher for this tube thing (Bazooka?). Looks like it could be anti vehicle like others have said.
Little dissapointed about the lack of larger game modes for the beta but it's fine. The beta seems to be emphasizing the presence of arena coming back. I just hope we can get some info on the larger game modes soon (a little before or after the beta).
I highly doubt ADS will ever be a thing.
The weapons look really good but the sword model is weird. Might be the angle? I hope we aren't losing the Rocket Launcher for this tube thing (Bazooka?). Looks like it could be anti vehicle like others have said.
TheOhrenberger.
Banned
a lock on weapon would be pretty cool. I liked the plasma launcher in Reach.
lol, wat is this.
A lock-on rocket launcher, anti-vehicle weapon?
looks like a smaw for cod mw3
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
It goes back to the whole "halo doesn't need this" thing.
quoting a post I made a while back on HBO
http://forums.bungie.org/halo/archive35.pl?read=1054300 said:
My hope here is that what is actually happen is they are using Halo 2 ranks as display only, acting exactly like the original system.
But under that system, they're running the modern LIVE skill matching system with the invisible skill rankings you can't see. That way you get good skill matches, search times don't tank, and they never need to reset the display H2 ranks. Otherwise all the problems solved since 2004 will come right back.
TheOhrenberger.
Banned
Not true at all. The BR received a drastic aesthetic change from the H2/H3 version to the Halo 4 version and it's effectively the same weapon (post "turbo" update albeit). The red dot site could just be that: an aesthetic change.
If it serves any real purpose maybe it's just to visually differentiate the role differences between DMR and BR. The DMR having a larger scope visually says it's a long range weapon while comparatively the BR having a red dot site says that it's more of a mid range weapon (which is true).
Of course this is all just speculation on my part. I have no idea why they gave the BR a red dot site.
Fata1moose
Banned
Some off-screen gameplay of Santuary from IGN. Whoever playing is bad, but hey it's more gameplay.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/12/gamescom-2014-hands-on-with-sanctuary-the-next-remastered-halo-2-map?watch
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/12/gamescom-2014-hands-on-with-sanctuary-the-next-remastered-halo-2-map?watch
"Hey, let's put a red dot on it see how many people will talk about this while we sit here and laugh, because we have no intentions of putting in ADS!"