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HaloGAF |OT: Anniversary| So fades the great harvest of our betrayal.
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Deputy Moonman
Member
I loved warlock, but doing a remake of it seems kind of meh. The map is so small there really isn't a lot you can do to make it shine more than it already did. Maybe it's really waterworks redone
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Nice, another great choice. Constant action.
I loved warlock, but doing a remake of it seems kind of meh. The map is so small there really isn't a lot you can do to make it shine more than it already did. Maybe it's really waterworks redone
Yeah, I just don't see how it'd benefit from having the H2AH4 engine. Much like why it would have been pointless to remake Midship in the Anni engine.
I mean.. you can delete the teleporters now. But that's not much.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
you mean SandTarp
Gabotron ES
Member
We got Coag and Zanzibar.
NobleGundam
Banned
Warlord... really?
Is it primarily due to popularity and for the competitive scene?
There's obviously other maps that could've gotten the hd treatment and it had to be warlock.
What are the reasons maps like backwash, relic, waterworks couldn't get the treatment?
Not that Warlord will look or play bad with all the additions which it won't but... c'mon.
Is it primarily due to popularity and for the competitive scene?
There's obviously other maps that could've gotten the hd treatment and it had to be warlock.
What are the reasons maps like backwash, relic, waterworks couldn't get the treatment?
Not that Warlord will look or play bad with all the additions which it won't but... c'mon.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
Looks like someone got a promotion.
If true this guy has some dirt on someone over at 343. Seriously, he was overseeing the biggest Halo MP failure ever.
Promote that man.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I like Warlock, but I wanted a BTB map, too. But 4v4 is my bread and butter, so I guess it works out in my favor.
Still thinking some of H4 is due to Microsoft leadership at the time.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Didn't they already axe the grenade hitmarkers from the most recent build?
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
idk, wheelchair spartan. all of the Devs playing and citing Black Ops II, and having classic Halo but scrapping it.
Indeed, the biggest and quickest drop in numbers for a Halo multiplayer post launch and he's promoted before the launch of the next game. I guess when your part of the genius behind the "Gungoose", you just can't risk letting that talent go elsewhere.
I am in exactly the same boat and the parts highlighted in bold are of extreme concern for me too. I love the fact there is so much content but its really concerning that if they have 5 different multiplayer games, including all the original maps, DLC ones and PC versions, the playlists are either gonna be combined to the point that no one gets to play what they truly want, or the population is spread too thin across all the hoppers.
Halo 4 really should not have been in the collection. Dev time wise and content wise they didn't need it, except pretty much too feed 343's ego. Reach and ODST have a much better reason to be in the collection then Halo 4, and since it was the start of their new trilogy they should have waited before bringing the game back....if that would ever have been viable anyways.
I think Halo 3 should have had its own collection edition. It would help the population of MCC out and developer time wise ensure the games are more than ready to go. Even splitting it so that there was a MCC 2 with Halo 3 and 4 as the focus. Sure its premature to expect the game not to be "ready" but even the H2A campaign redone graphics clearly need much more work for a supposed two generation jump in technology. It looks worse than Halo 3 did back in 07.
Because CEA had 2 BTB and 4 small maps. They taking the anniversary treatment literally.No Terminal?
Why not 3 BTB and 3 small maps?
We don't know how Forge will work, or those skybox only spaces. Maybe it will be easy to recreate a lot of BTB maps.
Bit again remember what Ntkrnl had said. That there would be a lot of large maps. Seeing as how H2A and Halo 5 beta are really small map focused, they're probably holding back on BTB for the Halo 5 release. Maybe they had more, but decided to roll them into Halo 5 or possibly DLC?
So it's Lockout, Coagulation, Sanctuary, Ascension, Warlock and Zanzibar for H2A, plus Forge. Really need to see what playlists will be like, will be hard to maintain say BTB only with this list.
Bit again remember what Ntkrnl had said. That there would be a lot of large maps. Seeing as how H2A and Halo 5 beta are really small map focused, they're probably holding back on BTB for the Halo 5 release. Maybe they had more, but decided to roll them into Halo 5 or possibly DLC?
So it's Lockout, Coagulation, Sanctuary, Ascension, Warlock and Zanzibar for H2A, plus Forge. Really need to see what playlists will be like, will be hard to maintain say BTB only with this list.
god I hope so!
Warlock is awesome, now let us hope for free dlc for the remaining maps. In other words they should have scrapped the Halo 4 port and just added the other Halo 2 maps
you have no idea what is possible with Halo 2As forge, also forge maps are bad most of the time.
Oh and what a joke with Kevin Franklin, that guy shouldn't be anywhere near to a Halo game
It's based off Halo 4's Forge, now with no budget but just an object limit. Warlock is a small map. I could remake it in Reach's Forge right now if I really wanted to in a few hours for a polished version. And H2A's Forge has even more features than Reach Forge.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
What if Coagulation is actually just one section of a much larger Forge World that also includes Waterworks and Terminal.
/pipedream
/pipedream
I cried
Warlock was a popular map among the competitive scene. You have to take into account that H2A will most likely be the game played in future tournaments. Having one more symmetric arena map is only logical. Don't get me wrong - I would have loved to see Burial Mounds, Headlong, or Waterworks, but I'm also content with Warlock. I have so many memories on that map playing CTF doubles. I love Max.
Also.. first post. \o/
Also.. first post. \o/
Demoncarnotaur
Member
At this point, I feel it has to be. At least to some extent.
Otherwise, it seems BtB will be virtually non existent on the remastered maps.
True, but as others have said, it's also easily forgeable. So if the new Forge is amazing as it sounds, it would have been easy to get a map like this recreated. What is harder would be a new BTB, fully fleshed out with textures, a new skybox etc. I'm happy either way.
Plus you never know, what if they're saving a lot of stuff for Halo 5? There's no reason Halo 5 Guardians can't ship with more than the average number of maps we're used to. It's a new gen.
Plus you never know, what if they're saving a lot of stuff for Halo 5? There's no reason Halo 5 Guardians can't ship with more than the average number of maps we're used to. It's a new gen.
YourExWife
Member
FTFY
Steelyuhas
Member
No Terminal?
Why not 3 BTB and 3 small maps?
Because matchmaking hoppers and player counts have never split 50/50 on for 4v4 compared to 8v8 player matches. It's been more like an 80/20 split.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, like I said before, the 4v4 fan in me has a hard time complaining about the H2A map selection. I'm honestly thrilled 343 is giving competitive Halo fans so much to love. But I like to dabble with BTB sometimes, too!
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Here's hoping such moves retain the population we all want Halo to.
Seeing how H2A has such a limited selection, I wouldn't be surprised if future map DLC is released after some months. I'm actually confident this will happen. Maybe a couple more remastered maps.. one of them being a BTB map. We can hope.
Warlock?
Unless Coag is big and is kinda Forge World 2.0, then I don't see myself playing Anniversary at all really. Oh well
So you were just in it for BTB? Remember, one of the biggest problems with Halo 4 was it's over reliance on large maps and BTB. Smaller maps are needed for 2v2, FFA, 4v4, SWAT, Team Snipers etc. I'm not saying one necessarily needs to be larger, but small to mid-sized maps should always be more plentiful than large maps.
Even then, there is only 4 smaller maps, and 2 larger maps, so it's not really enough for both groups as it is no?
I still think most of us will end up shifting to Halo 2 and Halo 3 for most of the playing, especially once the beta is done. But we don't know how the playlists will work.
PachinkoChampBruh
Member
8v8 on warlord.
Captain Friendo
Neo Member
Not sure if there'll be DLC or if they'll just add some forged maps into the fray.Seeing how H2A has such a limited selection, I wouldn't be surprised if future map DLC is released after some months. I'm actually confident this will happen. Maybe a couple more remastered maps.. one of them being a BTB map. We can hope.
Also nice avatar, I have a poster of that hanging up above my xbox.
Both of those maps were pretty big, though. Even once Timberland's size got reduced.
Zanzibar was always a 4v4 or 6v6 map. Built for one flag and rapid assault. Forcing it as a BTB map is sketchy and just screams "more variety", even considering you very rarely saw it pop up in Halo 2's playlist. It would have made more sense to do Terminal.
ElzarTheBam
Member
I'm just happy to see strong objective maps regardless of the split in anniversary.
of course almost all the maps in 2 were good objective maps. So that made it kinda easy.
of course almost all the maps in 2 were good objective maps. So that made it kinda easy.
"Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, some stubbornly maintain that this structure was once a Forerunner arena".
I'm just curious, was this leaked from TGS or from a tester or something back in WA? It's obvious whoever took the shot had to do it quickly with his phone, but if it is from someone at TGS I'm surprised no one from 343 thought that someone would see their final unannounced map through the custom game selection. Maybe it was a closed doors showing and this guy was just going through menus and whoever was with him didn't notice him scrolling the maps.
So will Halo actually make a splash in a competitive Esports scene again? Seems like that scene has largely moved from game to game following whatever has the most viewers. Is the MCC really going to get millions of people to watch Halo again? It doesn't seem likely to me.
No it won't get bigger viewers than CoD and so on, who expects that is an idiot