It will have decent sales for the first few months, that I'll give you. But PS4 will have the upper hand, because it will be consistantly selling at a steady pace.
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StalkerUKCG
Banned
No doubts about that. Its the better system hands down.
Steelyuhas
Member
Check out the GoT ones, those took a long ass time.
They take longer than you think simply because they are tedious. A shit-ton of linking, uploading photos, all that jazz, and setting them up so it actually looks nice and easy to read (not that anyone reads them) can sometimes be a fickle little bitch (lots of photos had to resized to specific pixels so that they look nice across the page).
^That's the worst structured sentence of all time lol
I know, man. I am tired as buck right now.
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
Was waiting for this. Joke never gets old. A true classic.
So... the new slim Xbox redesign is the 4GB arcade version and only ships with Kinect. For $299. Can't figure out if MS is really this stupid or they're using this as market justification for pricing the One at $499.
For reference the old Kinect bundle including two games is only $289.
This whole release is so comical.
For reference the old Kinect bundle including two games is only $289.
This whole release is so comical.
destinygaf squaddddddd
agreed, super cool avvy
WHAT?!?!?!?!
Yeah, the Mirrors Edge reboot is Open World. Had about the same reaction when I heard too lol
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
Yeah, it seems like they have to be trolling for it to be this bad. How about the Xbox points use it or lose it policy?
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/billi...ccount-management/microsoft-points-retire-faq
Then again:
crazy if true
Guess its for the "cloud" part of the system.
Is this upload or download speeds? I don't have 1.5 mbps upload speed...
YourExWife
Member
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
I doubt its upload, not many people in the US have 1.5 up. Most cable companies are 1mb or below. DSL forget it.
Yeah, its getting hard to stomach. I don't care about the conversion but how are you going to force people to use their points by a certain point. They keep trying to convince of us this new era but they are only using the technology to enforce their draconian policies. You think iTunes tells you to use your balance by a certain point? This is what MS isn't getting.
Zeouterlimits
Member
It's down. It has to be. I can't believe the alternative.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
1.5 MBPS isn't much, right?
Isn't the average in America 3 MBPS?
EDIT: WAIT ALL MY MICROSOFT POINTS THAT I BOUGHT WILL EXPIRE A YEAR AFTER MICROSOFT SO GRACEFULLY FORCES THEM TO BECOME USD? What the hell! So I have a year to impulse buy everything. :|
Screw this man, all the points I had in my account were for me to buy 3 Xbox One games digitally at launch! I'll still do that, but god, I'm disgusted at Microsoft now that they're taking away the money I and others bought, and giving them an expiration date.
Isn't the average in America 3 MBPS?
EDIT: WAIT ALL MY MICROSOFT POINTS THAT I BOUGHT WILL EXPIRE A YEAR AFTER MICROSOFT SO GRACEFULLY FORCES THEM TO BECOME USD? What the hell! So I have a year to impulse buy everything. :|
Screw this man, all the points I had in my account were for me to buy 3 Xbox One games digitally at launch! I'll still do that, but god, I'm disgusted at Microsoft now that they're taking away the money I and others bought, and giving them an expiration date.
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
Hey Gui...
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Hell. Yes.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Wait, people have more than like 1600 points in their account? You guys have so many that it will take more than a year to use? Damn.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
So guys, who's buying Destiny and what System?
I want to know, could encourage me to decide which system will be my 'main" Destiny play through.
Head Count!
I'm getting Destiny on Xbox One so far.
I want to know, could encourage me to decide which system will be my 'main" Destiny play through.
Head Count!
I'm getting Destiny on Xbox One so far.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Most likely getting Destiny on PS4
#nofap
Zeouterlimits
Member
Come now, that's hardly the point. What's the justification behind point expiration?
ESPECIALLY in this climate. They should be trying to earn goodwill, not announcing a bizarre policy that one again does not serve the consumer.
To answer your question I've had $20 sitting in my PSN account for like a year. I got it for Dyad last August but the EU version was delayed for a long time.
Probably PS4, (assuming Bungie/Acti don't do the right thing and put it out on PC) especially as it's been positioned as a PS4 title more than an Xbox one (co-marketing + dlc).
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I agree, I was just blown away by the number of points some people have hoarded up. I usually buy some extra in sales, but I use them quickly.
YourExWife
Member
It's called buying them when they're on sale and (usually) saving money in the long run. Not to mention many people just get a bunch from Bing/Amazon promotions.
Hell, even if they only have like 300 or whatever (because they didn't use the entire amount of the points card because stored currency systems like MSP are fucking stupid), Microsoft should have absolutely no say in when they use that money. It's literally a way for Microsoft to steal from you. No 2 ways about it.
The MS store recently had a deal where you could get 1200 points for $5. Just because frugal customers took advantage of that deal, should they be screwed out of something they *purchased* (I'm aware that promotional points expire already, and am fine with that)?
Believe it or not, many of us don't have a "it's burning a hole in my pocket, so I better spend it" mentality with money.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I tend to buy them in 4200 bulk so I end up with a good bit left over.
The sale prices on those point cards, were pretty nice.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Oh I get you, I've just heard of people having 40,000+ points saved up. That's insane.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Buying points if your not planning to use them is stupid. If its gifted points I understand your complaint.
If you have points that you are not spending and then complaining because you can't spend them then you need to give your head a shake
If you have points that you are not spending and then complaining because you can't spend them then you need to give your head a shake
I agree with you, I buy the smallest amount of points available whenever I need something. Helps curb the spending if I have to physically add points every time I want something.
I should NEVER have a time frame to spend MY money. There is no justification for this.
YourExWife
Member
I am planning on using them. Just not right now. This is the fucked mentality I refered to in my post above.
lolwat? If I'm complaining about losing points I didn't pay for it's ok, but if I paid for them, fuck me?
More terrible nonsense from Stalker's School of Economics.
"OMG I DIDN'T JIZZ ALL MY POINTS AWAY AS SOON AS I GOT THEM! I'M SUCH A DUMBFUCK! WHAT WAS I THINKING?!"
I can understand this reasoning. My issue is with Microsoft becoming my accountant and forcing me to empty my funds.
If people have impulse control issues and this is their way of forcing themselves to think twice, then that's fine. For the rest of us, MS can fuck right off.
Umm. You spent your money bro. You decided to buy points. And the deadline is all the way past 2014.
Struggling to see the big deal here. Help me out.
Wait some of you spend like 50 bucks and bought points in bulk?
WHY
Zeouterlimits
Member
... you're kidding me.
Not you too fu?
The fact that it's completely unjustified, that it's data, that it comes at a time when Microsoft are already getting creamed, that it's people's property that Microsoft are expiring.
If my XBL money can expire, then why don't my games bought through XBL expire? Or vice versa?
So because it's awkward for them to integrate both systems, they're basically flicking a switch and deleting monetary value.
It's not the biggest thing, it's just ridiculous.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
... guys I'm boned. My Player Feedback took a major down hill turn for the worst during Reach, when I would spawn kill players in Big Team with my friends. My rep went from like 70% preferred and 30% avoided to like 25% preferred and 75% avoided. Might be worse now. I don't know.
This is stupid, first thing I'm legitimately protesting on the Xbox One. I don't want to be branded as "avoid me" because I angered some kids by beating them hard. :|
Who else is going to be in the "avoid me" club, I'm assuming everyone here?
while I am sure I will spend them its the fact that there is NO reason as to why there needs to be a timer on these points....its pointless (heh)
I keep my ms points close to 800 or less. If some great deal happens I just run to the store to get a points card, I'll never give MS my billing address.
On a side note, so Kyle really did get Perma-banned?
And Gui, I don't know Brazil is getting the Xbox One with full Portuguese language support and Spain is getting it too. Don't know why they'd avoid Portugal. So it's definitely not language/geographic concerns.
On a side note, so Kyle really did get Perma-banned?
And Gui, I don't know Brazil is getting the Xbox One with full Portuguese language support and Spain is getting it too. Don't know why they'd avoid Portugal. So it's definitely not language/geographic concerns.
Not you too fu?
In moderation, having a small bank of points is perfectly normal.
I am having a hard time figuring out why they wouldn't let you use it after a certain point, though. Seems unreasonable.
MrGreencastle
Member
Someone want to give me the run down on how this 10 "Family" members thing? It's sounding interesting...
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Bro I'm not the guy who has so many he points he throws a tantrum when MS tell him they are taking them away.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I don't understand why they don't do a simple conversion.
It the depreciation of points is their concern in doing that - TAKE THE HIT.
Win some goodwill.
YourExWife
Member
No it's not.
Because I use them often and if they're on sale and I know I'll spend it eventually, why not?
If people don't have expendable income, then I am in no way endorsing this practice, but if you budget and notice the expense occurs/occured, then what's wrong?
Probably because MS cares about every little bit of money. How many points will expire or go unclaimed and Microsoft will remove them. This means they essentially got money without providing any service.
Now think about how many of the 42+ million Gold subscribers and millions others might lose anywhere from 20 ms points to hundreds.
Now think about how many of the 42+ million Gold subscribers and millions others might lose anywhere from 20 ms points to hundreds.
Haha, do you forget which corporation we're talking about here? Come on Gavin, you're smarter than that!
StalkerUKCG
Banned
I'm not condoning this btw. Its a shitty tactic. I just can't see why some people would have so many points just sitting doing nothing for such a long time. Buy them when you need them.
A lot of people buy them when they're cheap, then wait for sales.
YourExWife
Member
It's not the amount. I've no doubt spent less than most here on MSP in the last 7.5 years.
The issue is that, until this moment, Microsoft Points policy was "they never expire." The only exception to that was promotional points. Any points purchased we were told would never expire.
Now we're being told that for precisely no reason other than greed, Microsoft is going to take to the bank anything in your account a little over a year from now. It's plain wrong, and that's why I'm "throwing a tantrum."
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