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Hardwired...to Self Destruct - New Metallica album - Live concert on Metallica.com

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Zalman

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I actually like Spit Out the Bone more than their previous thrashers (Damage Inc., Dyers Eve etc.) It has a melodic feel to it that I really enjoy.
 

SuomiDude

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But that alone doesn't mean anything.

But in this case I think it worked for the most part. There's fast stuff, there's slow stuff, there's heavy stuff, there's experimental stuff, there's thrashers, there's melodic stuff. I heard stuff similar to KeA, Ride, MoP, ...AJFA, Black, Load and Death Magnetic (+Beyond Magnetic) in there, but also totally new style and combination of old and new. I think it mostly worked in this case, although the Load-style stuff wasn't good at all in my personal opinion (many people seemed to like those songs though).
 

Airola

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But in this case I think it worked for the most part. There's fast stuff, there's slow stuff, there's heavy stuff, there's experimental stuff, there's thrashers, there's melodic stuff. I heard stuff similar to KeA, Ride, MoP, ...AJFA, Black, Load and Death Magnetic (+Beyond Magnetic) in there, but also totally new style and combination of old and new. I think it mostly worked in this case, although the Load-style stuff wasn't good at all in my personal opinion (many people seemed to like those songs though).

Yeah, I don't mean the album is bad or anything. I just think it's not above average in any way. There are a few great moments here and there though.

I think my favorite track might be Dream No More - which I guess is one of those "Load tracks." Somehow that song felt very good.

And I think James does great job on vocals in the album.
 

strafer

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Maybe I'm getting old or something or just dont care about choosing favorites, but I think in my personal opinion that all the songs are great.
 
They've changed the song layout right?

Cuz on my vinyl I've got Am I Savage? After Moth Into Flame and Dream No More on the 2nd Disc where as I thought Dream No More was after Moth

Anyway amazing album few filler tracks but nothing to conplain about production is ace and Hetfield sounds better than he has done in years
 

elfinke

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Fuck me that youtube concert was great, even if it wasn't full of new stuff. I saw them during the DM tour here in Australia (with the truly awful Lamb Of God in tow) and they were looking real tired by the time they got here. It was still a decent show, but certainly nearer to the bottom of live concerts I've ever attended.

This on the other hand, seemed superb. Sign me up to go see 'em again, assuming they come out again.

Also, Atlas Rise! has been a real ear-worm, following me everywhere. Batted very well today and I think the fabulous chorus-tempo change and catchy hooks are partly responsible for it.
 

Gen X

Trust no one. Eat steaks.
They've changed the song layout right?

Cuz on my vinyl I've got Am I Savage? After Moth Into Flame and Dream No More on the 2nd Disc where as I thought Dream No More was after Moth

Probably just to do with track length fitting on each sides of the vinyl, then again, if that was the case surely the cd listing would be made to match.
 
Probably just to do with track length fitting on each sides of the vinyl, then again, if that was the case surely the cd listing would be made to match.

Nah that happens quite a bit. Arcade Fire - Reflektor's layout is also different between vinyl/other releases.
 
I don't think there's a single song on this entire album that approaches their original greatness, but I think it's certainly better overall than Death Magnetic or St. Anger.

When I listen to it, I just keep getting this feeling that if some other minor league metal band released this record, no one would give a shit about it.
 

DeSo

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I don't think there's a single song on this entire album that approaches their original greatness, but I think it's certainly better overall than Death Magnetic or St. Anger.

When I listen to it, I just keep getting this feeling that if some other minor league metal band released this record, no one would give a shit about it.
Yeah that's a fair call.

I dunno, listening to it made long for thrash Metallica again.

*fires up Blackened*
 
They've changed the song layout right?

Cuz on my vinyl I've got Am I Savage? After Moth Into Flame and Dream No More on the 2nd Disc where as I thought Dream No More was after Moth

Anyway amazing album few filler tracks but nothing to conplain about production is ace and Hetfield sounds better than he has done in years
Yeah Lars changed it at the last minute but the vinyl was already printed so they couldn't undo it.
 

Formless

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It's just virtually indistinguishable from any other decent thrash album in the last 20 years.

Not sure they can be considered a thrash band anymore or that this album should be compared to thrash.

I mean, it sounds nothing like new stuff like Vektor/Havok, or old thrash guys with new records like Exodus, Kreator, Testament, etc.

I consider Metallica a heavy metal band who pioneered thrash but they don't really fit into the typical thrash scene. If this sounds like a typical thrash album I don't really think you're listening to thrash or skipped much of this album.
 

Combichristoffersen

Combovers don't work when there is no hair
It's just virtually indistinguishable from any other decent thrash album in the last 20 years.

But.. This album isn't thrash. There's like maybe 2-3 songs that could be called thrash, the rest is hard rock/heavy metal. This ain't Kreator, Destruction or anything like that.
 

RangerX

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Kirk's performance is a real mark against the album for me. None of the solos here are that memorable and he sounds like hes really phoning it in. The dude can't seem to improvise at all. Strangely the album as a whole seems to be getting worse for me the more I listen. A lot of the songs are just so bog standard and its definitely too long. The singles and spit out the bone are great, the rest range from decent to awful. I've never really understood the dislike for death magnetic, the songs there are so much more dynamic.
 

Glass

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I love it when albums come along from the big guys like Iron Maiden and Metallica.

Such a rare occurrence, and the songs keep me going for years.
 

Revan

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I really like Death Magnetic, but in my opinion HTSD smashes Death Magnetic up into tiny pieces, jumps in the air, pulls out a ninja sword and cuts all of the little gibs into even smaller pieces, flips onto the ground and catches those particles in a blender, makes a smoothy with them, waits 6 hours, poops and then sends that poop to Dave Mustain's door step and lights it on fire.

This comment reminded me of an Itchy and Scratchy cartoon and escalated very quickly lol.
 
I really wish Death Magnetic had Hardwired's production quality.


DM is a solid album. Might not reach the heights of Hardwired but it has more variety and I would love it if Day that Never Comes and Unforgiven 3 had the sound production of the stuff on Hardwired.
 

CassSept

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People saying "Metallica is back" to this album.....if anything this is them settling back into their 1997-1999 selves. St. Anger was them hitting rock bottom and basically making an album out of their frustration. Death Magnetic is an album coming back from hitting musical rock bottom and trying to win back the mindshare of their fanbase (while also probably proving to themselves that they can still do it)

This captures my feelings well. In a way, Death Magnetic was to Metallica what The Force Awakens was to Star Wars. More about trying to recapture that lost magic, to show that there is still hope for the future of the band/series. A step back to re-examine just what made them great and do something more in that vein, rather then immediately going forward experimenting with their sound.

You can go back to Death Magnetic thread on NeoGAF and see that for the first few pages people weren't really excited about prospect of new Metallica album, rather dreading just how worse can it still be after St. Anger. The cover album, the song titles didn't reassure anyone. And then the first singles started appearing on the Internet and then the album dropped and besides horrible production the song themselves were... actually good. The general feeling was not disappointment, but surprise and exaltation. They could still write decent songs, even if lyrically it was sub-par.

I feel that that feeling was mostly absent in the run-up to Hardwired. I don't think anyone respected a goat-level album, but most people expected at the very least a decent record. Gone was the feeling that 'Metallica sucks!' that was everywhere around the Internet in mid-'00s, gone was the feeling that Metallica is over and whatever next they produce is going to be totally awful. In that respect, Death Magnetic did a terrific job in clearing the air around Metallica.


I think I'd still say I prefer DM to HWTSD. HWTSD sounds better for sure and is more varied, but I simply prefer the style of DM, even if every song on the album should have been shorter.

Kirk's performance is a real mark against the album for me. None of the solos here are that memorable and he sounds like hes really phoning it in. The dude can't seem to improvise at all. Strangely the album as a whole seems to be getting worse for me the more I listen. A lot of the songs are just so bog standard and its definitely too long. The singles and spit out the bone are great, the rest range from decent to awful. I've never really understood the dislike for death magnetic, the songs there are so much more dynamic.

That is my biggest problem with the new album too. Maybe it's because he lost all the riffs he created for the album? That probably is the reason, but it's by far the weakest aspect of the album.
 

Valtýr

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I listened to this twice so far. Honestly it's pretty average in my opinion. Some of the early songs are good but as it goes it loses all of it's steam. A lot of these songs just plod along and don't go anywhere.

Step down from DM. That album had some bite to it. This is just a rather boring and safe album.
 

Xyber

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Am I savage's solo is the only "memorable" solo IMO, the others are kinda just there, don't think it ruins any of the songs tho

Yeah, they don't ruin it but so many songs could've been much better with more thought out solos. A lot of them are just boring, just some fast playing with his standard wah effects. Don't stand out at all.
 

MrNelson

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Kirk's performance is a real mark against the album for me. None of the solos here are that memorable and he sounds like hes really phoning it in. The dude can't seem to improvise at all. Strangely the album as a whole seems to be getting worse for me the more I listen. A lot of the songs are just so bog standard and its definitely too long. The singles and spit out the bone are great, the rest range from decent to awful. I've never really understood the dislike for death magnetic, the songs there are so much more dynamic.
I'm pretty sure he lost all the material he had for the album. He had a ton of riffs and ideas on his phone and lost it at an airport, never bothering to back it up.
 

Zalman

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Valtýr;225003708 said:
I listened to this twice so far. Honestly it's pretty average in my opinion. Some of the early songs are good but as it goes it loses all of it's steam. A lot of these songs just plod along and don't go anywhere.

Step down from DM. That album had some bite to it. This is just a rather boring and safe album.
Listening to the album from start to finish is definitely a slog. By the end the songs start to blend together. Too many mid-tempo songs on Disc 2 IMO. Could have used a ballad and a song with a little more speed to flesh it out a bit.
 

HF2014

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Way past their prime. Nobody would care about this album if it wasn't from Metallica.

This music sounds so juvenile.

And whats the point of coming here and bashing a band you seem to just dont like? We care because it is Metallica, because they make great music , because they are the best metal band or we feel they are and they will always deserve attention for what they did and will do.
 

Pancake Mix

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Confusion's intro is definitely inspired by Am I Evil, but not as good. I'm sure they're not trying to hide it but it's still kind of strange.

The album reminds me of Load and ReLoad in that I like about 3 songs when I used to like their entire albums. That's more than St. Anger at least.

This is heavier (and way better produced) than Death Magnetic, sure, but Death Magnetic wasn't phoned in like this....maybe Unforgiven 3.
 

Gouty

Bloodborne is shit
Nobody would care about this album if it wasn't from Metallica.

So this music I'm currently listening to and enjoying, would cease to be a pleasure if the name on the package was different? Does this make me Schrödinger's cat?
 
Way past their prime. Nobody would care about this album if it wasn't from Metallica.

This music sounds so juvenile.

Earlier in this thread you mentioned you grew out of heavy metal. You clearly don't like the genre. This is like me going into a thread about a random country artist and bashing it because I don't like the genre.
 
Confusion's intro is definitely inspired by Am I Evil, but not as good. I'm sure they're not trying to hide it but it's still kind of strange.

The album reminds me of Load and ReLoad in that I like about 3 songs when I used to like their entire albums. That's more than St. Anger at least.

This is heavier (and way better produced) than Death Magnetic, sure, but Death Magnetic wasn't phoned in like this....maybe Unforgiven 3.
I wouldn't say this is phoned in. It sounds like exactly how they feel, not giving a fuck trying to please fans and making whatever they want to make. That being said the album does require a few spins to fully appreciate.

Here Comes Revenge is my favorite song by far, mostly because of the main riff.
I don't have a single favorite but here comes revenge is one of them. So damn good.
 

Horseress

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"Phoned in"?! Hell no! James's riffs are on point, tons of great moments. Robert is great, I like the drums more now than in DM, and Kirk....I didn't like most of his solos in the last album and now he's still...just there. Not ruining anything but also not making any great impact

And my favorite song of the album so far is "Am I Savage?"

opinions huh
 
"Phoned in"?! Hell no! James's riffs are on point, tons of great moments. Robert is great, I like the drums more now than in DM, and Kirk....I didn't like most of his solos in the last album and now he's still...just there. Not ruining anything but also not making any great impact

And my favorite song of the album so far is "Am I Savage?"

opinions huh

I'm another who thinks that Am I Savage is not as bad as some people are making it out to be. It's not in my top 5 of the album, but there's definitely something that I like about it.
 
I think Am I Savage is the best track because it flows nicely, doesn't overstay it's welcome, and doesn't rely on the sound of previous songs

Confusion should be the best but it's too long for no reason. Metallicas best work isn't built around jamming on the same two or three sections for 7 minutes.
 
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