HARDWIRED
JH: Well, that being the last song written. When we were putting it together, the first number was a two, which was pretty remarkable. Were talking Ramones or Misfits length.
SC: Two minutes?
JH: Yeah.
SC: Jesus.
JH: Then things got a little longer, but its [still] under four minutes which is greatly no matter what. Its so simple. Whatever you think of lyric writing, it is not Shakespeare, I know that. But its a summation of the whole album. It gave us a little bit of a direction on where to go with the title of the record. Lets just sum up all the parts of the record, you know, are humans really doing the right thing? And in the history of time, were a little blip. Are we gonna be gone? Are we phasing ourselves out with electronics? Are we becoming this? Are we gonna self-destruct because of our egos and all of the stuff that makes humans human? Should we be robots? Is that better? You get into science fiction, you get into all kinds of stuff, but you know, when man started, what was the idea?
That whole sentence, Hardwired to self-destruct, came from a friend of mine [who was] just throwing it out there as a struggling addict, as in, Is that what it is? Is that what its like for us? Is our default to die earlier than were supposed to? Destroy our lives, are we hardwired to self-destruct? That caught my ear.
ATLAS, RISE!
SC: I felt that it was about martyrdom, thats what it felt like to me, an observation of self-created martyrdom.
JH: Sure, yeah. Just the mythology around Atlas and him being forced to carry the weight of the world because of what had happened before. That was his legacy, that was his duty. And there are people that I believe live in that lifestyle, live thinking that theyre the martyr for the people who cant speak, or for the this, for that, save the this, and dont save the that. Taking responsibility a little too far, and then putting others down when they dont believe you, or dont support you. How could you not support this? With martyrdom and guilt, its like a battle in a way, someone thinking that they have more responsibility than they do. And its like, Man, lighten up. Just get rid of that shit, or give some of that to me. All of that song kinda started with a little bit of a feel of, Put the load right on me, and basically, You dont have to carry [all] that load. Give [some of] it to me. Lifes really hard for you, Im gonna help you. But then you find out that, Waaiiiit a minute, they just gave some of that to somebody else, and that and that, and WHOOAA. OK. All right. Stop using your woe as some martyrdom thing.
NOW THAT WERE DEAD
SC: I felt it was a question of faith, or of comfort, in the death of us, with all being the same at the root.
JH: Yeah, at the end of the day were all the same. Having something to believe in, maybe theres an afterlife. Maybe it started out as wanting to be more of a modern-day Romeo and Juliet. Were in this together. Helping each other through life. And you know, now that were dead, I mean that could mean lots of things. Actually, you are dead. Youre onto the next life. Or youve gone through something horrible as a couple. Now youre [both] on the other side of it. So, trusting in another person. And at the end of the day, your behaviors, whatever youve done, theyre just behaviors. You can amend them, you can make up for them, and together, move on with a clean conscience. Theres [also] an exploration feel of, like, I dont know whats next come on, lets try it. Lets go. Lets do it.
MOTH INTO FLAME
SC: It seems to be about the price of fame versus the seduction of empty temptations, sort of a meditation on all those.
JH: Yeah, Moth Into Flame is pretty literal. And these days everyone
think its an obsession with being famous. Being popular. Whether its your Facebook account or, you know, walking around the street, watching someone doing selfies of themselves, you know, as theyre walking down the street. Like what? What are you doing? You know, how self-involved and absorbed, are you? But I think the next generations coming up are more aware of things and accepting of things around them. The main inspiration for that was the Amy Winehouse movie AMY, where she got brainwashed in a way. She started believing. There was one scene that really, really disturbed me, when she was leaving her flat. Shes walking out to go do something, and the paparazzi are all over here, Hey, Amy, how you doing today? Hows your friend blah-blah? And a k-k-k-k-k-k-k [denoting camera sounds ED] and, Were your friend, but, ooh, k-k-k-k. So disturbing. And, God, how do you know when youre in that bubble, how do you know whats real, whats not? You got people around you saying, Yes, yes, yes. And she got lost. She got totally lost, and she started to believe that, she believed that myth that fame is the best thing there is. And, yeah, the limousine turns into the hearse
SC: Quite literal. Quite true in some cases.
JH: Well, in the opening line, too. After the gig, [where] you just did something great, you connected with all this [the audience ED], and then you run into the limousine past all the people and you close the door. And then theres all your stuff that you need, your drink, your thing, your friend, your whatever. You go from insanity to difficult insanity.
DREAM NO MORE
SC: Is it a conceptual follow-on from ...Sandman nightmares stuff?
JH: Interesting.
SC: Its a primordial riff and its a primordial vibe. Its, I mean its probably one of the slowest songs I think this bands ever written, but its so heavy.
JH: I love it too. Its a great riff, especially that chorus, the turn to stone. You know, when you were just saying those words, its kind of like the media. Youre sitting [there], you cant look away, youre looking at the horror, youre looking at the horrible stuff going on, and you cant look away and then you eventually just turn numb to it all. But also, it was a basically a follow-up to Call of Ktulu, for me. It was, Cthulhu answers. In the mythos he rises up, and if you even gaze at his reflection you turn to stone hes so hideous and horrible.
HALO ON FIRE
SC: I felt that this was a straight up look into battling darkness inside, depression.
JH: You can plug anything into that one really. Obviously Halo On Fire, theres a juxtaposition in all of us, good, evil, and when does that come out, when does it show itself? Some people portray themselves as real saints, [and] the more their darkness is, the more they have to portray themselves as saints. So youre basically getting away from the real you, like youre making up for all of this [stuff] that you think is really bad.
I think also
what was that one show? Fifty Shades of Grey? I never saw it, but I saw some highlights of it where it was like, Oh, this guy is well accomplished and look at this guy. And then hes got this basement of torture and horror all for his pleasure, and people [were] falling for it and wanting it. And then at the end of the day, they both bleed. Its not good for anybody.