Vincent Alexander
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Noooooooooooooooo
RIP
RIP
You seemed to forget a great one . . . . oh yeah . . .
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Somehow I managed to miss the fact that Ramis directed National Lampoon's Vacation. Analyze This was also very good and I watched it a bunch back in the day. What a legendary comedic talent.The man was a genius. He either wrote or directed all the movies that defined comedy for their time. And a brilliant actor of course. What a formidable list this is:
SCTV
Animal House
Meatballs
Vacation
Caddyshack
Stripes
Ghostbusters
Back To School
Groundhog Day
Multiplicity
Analyze This
Ghostbusters 3 canceled?
iirc it started over groundhog day. murray wanted it to be darker and ramis wanted it to be lighter. their fighting led to compromises that made the film what it was.
You were a worthy adversary. RIP.
You mean amazing?
Children of the '70s and very early '80s are going to have it rough over the next 10-15 years. RIP.
Rewatched Groundhog Day a couple months ago and it hasn't aged a day.
iirc it started over groundhog day. murray wanted it to be darker and ramis wanted it to be lighter. their fighting led to compromises that made the film what it was.
Wait, there was a rift between Murray and Ramis? Why? I thought it was Aykroyd that Murray had beef with.
AVC: Its been a few years since youve worked with Bill Murray. What do you think the experience will be like, working with him again on that film?
HR: I have no idea. We have no social relationship whatsoever, itd be hard to predict. But you know, the encouraging thing is, hes very elusive I didnt realize hed pulled out of James Brooks new movie recently. They couldnt nail it down, but I think he took them pretty far down the road before he disappeared, so now Jack Nicholsons going to take the part. But hes famous for that. Hes very elusive.
Im the only one who talks about [our relationship]. He wont tell you [Pauses.] Hes a very private person. He doesnt do serious interviews. Once in a while, but hes not self-revealing. The most self-revealing thing I ever saw was never in the press or publicity, it was in Lost In Translation or Rushmore. [Laughs.] Those movies kind of defined a side of him the public is not aware of. I think if you looked at his career, he got tired of being the crazy, life-of-the-party guy. Thats quite a load to carry, and he carried it a bunch of times so successfully, and he just didnt want to do it anymore, and started exploring this more adult, serious side of himself. Thats fine, Id admired and respected it, and like his work in those films. I just had so little social contact with him that I dont have any perspective on anything he does, thinks, or feels, and he gives no clues.
Offscreen, Ramis and Bill Murray were trapped in a cycle of personal strains. Murrays marriage was breaking up, and he was behaving erraticallythe whirling, unpredictable personality that Dan Aykroyd calls the Murricane. Ramis sent Rubin to New York to work with Murray on the script, because he was tired of taking his stars 2 a.m. calls. Rubin says that when Ramis phoned him to check in, Murray would shake his head and mouth the words Im not here. They were like two brothers who werent getting along, Rubin says. And they were pretty far apart on what the movie was aboutBill wanted it to be more philosophical, and Harold kept reminding him it was a comedy.
At times, Bill was just really irrationally mean and unavailable; he was constantly late on set, Ramis says. What Id want to say to him is just what we tell our children: You dont have to throw tantrums to get what you want. Just say what you want.
After the film wrapped, Murray stopped speaking to Ramis. Some of the pairs friends believe that Murray resents how large a role Ramis had in creating the Murray persona. Michael Shamberg, a Hollywood producer who has known Ramis since college and who used to let Murray sleep on his couch, says, Bill owes everything to Harold, and he probably has a thimbleful of gratitude.
To put my love of Harold's material into perspective, here's a photo of me and Dan Aykroyd from a few years back. I know I've posted this before on GAF, but it really hits the point home on how much Ghostbusters meant to me growing up.