And most of them have ass IQ and frame rate problems. Because they are actually next gen (PS6) features that can't run properly on many scenarios. Silent Hill f is doing ok with features, framerate and IQ with 2 enemies in a corridor. Everywhere else they haven't.
Its pretty sad that you cant see beyond your console fanboyism. I literally said, while Microsoft hasnt been great, it still delivered graphics tech beyond Sony's best. I honestly despise Microsoft due to its loathsome anti consumer/industry history and if you told me at launch that Microsoft would match let alone outcompete Sony devs in graphics I would laugh at your face but here we are. The fact that they delivered better tech than Sony, which shat on them the past 2 gens, is the point that is damning. I don't care if it uses UE5 or stock assets, the fact is that it is the best showcase of sheer graphics fidelity and details in a game on display with geometry levels and texture detail that is unmatched with amazing lighting, shadowing aswell . I wonder if you had that same energy when the order launched on ps4 or Detroit become human? Do you really not see the irony here? You just dissed on the game running on the series S as an insult and yet you have been praising the Sony games a decent majority of which run on a damn ps4 as brilliant.Did I even praise MS he says, just before praising MS.
Hellblade 2 best looking game of the Gen. Sure mate, sure. Low resolution corridor with black bars that runs on Series S. Some people see some good textures and modeling in 2 characters on screen and think that's the pinnacle of high tech.
Fact is Sony and some Ubi games have been been among the best this gen. Stellar Blade, Horizon Forbidden West, Spiderman 2, Astro Bot, Demons Souls, Death Stranding 2, Ghost of Yotei, Ratchet and Clank Rift, all among the best this Gen.
Games that run on PS4 can't be brilliant? What idiocy is this? Barely playable garbage like hellblade is brilliant instead?
No they do not. ive done this with you before. if you stick with 30 fps most UE5, Snowdrop, Anvil, RE engine, and Northlight engine games average out at 1440p 30 fps reconstructed to 4k. basically the norm on the PS4 Pro last gen.
Interesting
You really dont see the double standards here....you said it runs on the series S a next gen console, albeit weaker but damn ahead of the ps4 as an insult claiming its unimpressive since its designed to scale down to run on the Series S making it technically unimpressive in some way, and yet you tout the horn for ps4 games on the ps5 not as an insult but as if its a great thing. Also how is hellblade unplayable garbage? It has a solid 30fps mode and now even a consistent performance mode.
Shadows using RTGI?
Yeah. That's on PC at max settings.
It's that game that can't lock 60 fps at 540p on 5070ti?
RE engine runs just fine on a base PS5 on any mode. Everything from Sony do as well. Shadows have acceptable IQ at 30fps. Wukong looks ass even at 30. As you've said, we've been through this.
Wow so you're comparing a almost 4 year old crossgen game with a current gen only game. nice.
AC Shadows is also on PlayStation and has RTGI in its 60fps mode on the Pro. Besides, Sony now ports their games to PC, to it's absolutely fair game to compare the best version of both games.
Less than 3 years separate these games and Forbidden West is still considered among the best-looking PS5 game by many if not the best. It has since been left in the dust
The Pro has current day RT capabilities and an upscaler that doesn't shit the bed. It's not fair to bring it up in a feature comparison (in power is fair game since it's barely better). Even with Sony stupidly porting games to PC their main market are still consoles.
Is considered one of the best looking PS5 games due to unmatched image quality and I believe that's going to be the case for a long time.
Only console gamers would brag about Forbidden West being "best graphics this gen", a 3 year old Cross Gen game that is really showing its cross genness and age if you don't have fanboy goggles on.
This is a thread about graphics and whether Sony has lost their technical edge. In what world are games rooted in ps4 tech "brilliant" in terms of Sony staying at the forefront of tech? Their games do not stack up to games using the latest lighting techniques with dense geometry and detail.
The post that was quoted wasn't about graphics.
One PS4 game from 2018. (gif is from 2016)
GT7 and Spider-Man were PlayStations graphical moments this generation
lol you must not have played Dragons Dogma 2 or Monster Hunter Rise.
Wukong looks fine at 30 fps.
Ive been on the 60 fps club since 2003 when i built my first PC. I am primarily a console gamer but every generation around the half way mark i switch to PC to get my 60 fps fix. Especially since games get far more complex late gen and i want to play them at 60. if thats what you want, buy a PC like the rest of us. they are not that expensive anymore.
The 40fps balanced mode have RTGI too and works with the same assets as quality mode (except average DRS). I know a 120hz TV is required, but it's still a technological reference for the game (and console hardware ) in question.
All that Series S hysteria and the Xbox games were clearly not held back by the series S. pretty much every MS next gen exclusive has targeted 1440p 30 fps on the XSX while the PS5 exclusives have targeted native 4k 30 fps. As if they are targeting some non-existent series s version.
Come on, man. That's not fair. At least be proud that our own friendly LLM can handle GIFs now
I didn't. But RE4, the equivalent of Wukong (single player corridor game) looks like a million bucks.
I'm saving you the gif but let me tell you that I'm never going to find a better deal than my 1060. PC market is not changing for the best. Not even close. Even AMD has fake prices and everything is awfully expensive.
thats literally every game with motion blur. maybe actually play these games instead of just watching them on youtube.I didn't. But RE4, the equivalent of Wukong (single player corridor game) looks like a million bucks.
I'm saving you the gif but let me tell you that I'm never going to find a better deal than my 1060. PC market is not changing for the best. Not even close. Even AMD has fake prices and everything is awfully expensive.
thats nonsense. you can buy a GPU 2x more powerful than the ps5 for like $400. the 7800xt was $500 like 2 years ago. no one is telling you to buy overpriced nvidia cards. you can go and buy a cheap $200 cpu and a $400 GPU and get a much better pc than the pro.
Look, if it isn't Mr. I Don't Want A Pro.
Stay safe over there.
Only if you factor in DLSS when making comparisons. Say, you run the game at 1440p DLSS Performance on a 5060 Ti vs 1440p FSR with a 1080p internal res. The 5060 Ti should come close to doubling the PS5 performance while retaining a comparable, if not better IQ.
yep. Horizon FW was the poster child for bad IQ bad at launch but people conveniently forgot all about it. GG literally took 5 months and had to rebuild their entire reconstruction system to fix the foliage shimmering.
You do know. You play games at 30 fps and then next gen you play those same games remastered at 60 fps. You did this with MGS3 which got a 60 fps remaster on the PS3. Then you did with the uncharted which got a 60 fps remaster on the PS4. And then again when uncharted 4 got a 60 fps remaster on the PS5. So why do you want Uncharted 5 to look like Uncharted 4 just so you can play it at 60 fps on day one? Didnt you spend $500 on a next gen console? Didnt you pay $70 for this next gen game? Dont you want your money to go into a next gen experience?
Curious where you stand on this. If there was RTGI at 30 fps for FW, looking somewhere between the left and right image (more right leaning than left) in IQ but with much better lighting, and 60 fps looked like the right and you had a base PS5, which mode would you play?
It looks far worse in motion. Fix took them quite some time (and it still isn't all that great looking on base PS5), I had to complete game like this.
If we're getting a near PS5 level handheld next gen then it's going to be the new baseline and yes, this is exactly what I expect for next generation. This is what a lot of people have been saying for a while.
every single current gen game this gen has a 60 fps mode. even games that shipped at just 30 fps like starfield and hellblade 2 got a 60 fps patch after launch.
