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[Mr Gump]

Okay, so if I wanted to improve on my memory let's say and started doing memory exercises, or if I wanted to improve on my knowledge and started some form of education, does that mean I have self-esteem issues? Does that mean if I wanted to "improve" something, I must not like myself in the beginning?

And what is the difference if that "something" that I want to improve is appearance? Other than social stigma of course.

And before you answer, please don't say that education actually helps you in your life and improves your situation and attractive boobs do not, because TRUST me on this, it is not the case. There are many benefits, to both.

:lol Might be time to get some sleep, im pretty sure they're joking with you.

By GAF logic, we shouldn't even be talking now because improvements to ourselves are bad.

Im planning to fit a rear wing personally.

 

[Alyssa Hu$tle]

Alyssa, your confidence is a refreshing change of pace. I really wish more women had that level of self esteem, it'd REALLY help us men out.

I love my wife, find her beautiful, but she's so self concsious about her large chest (among other things) it can really make things tough. I just wish I knew of a way to boost her confidence level and be proud of what she has. I love her the way she is, but she never seems happy with herself...... sigh, such is married life.

EDIT: For the record, I'm buying a 52 HDTV not because of penis size (or lack thereof, I'm quite ok in that department, thank you very much!), but because I'm getting a new job.

It's a B-day gift to myself and my wife, we love movies and it's about time we got with the current time. No more 27inch TV for us, no sir-e-bob

Here's one way a woman can gain confidence forever:
1) She starts of skinny. She knows she looks great deep down because of all the attention she gets. No less she worries about "this" and "that" because it is not perfet like the girls on TV and in the magazines she reads.
2) She gets REALLY fat. She gets NO attention. In fact, she gets horrible remarks because that’s what happens to fat people. (And if your wife is worried about ber big boobs now, just wait until they get so big buying bras is a real issue).
3) She loses all the weight and looks great again. The attention comes back. She doesn't have the same firm tight body she once had, but she no longer gives a fuck because she learns the "this" and "that" are really not that important after all, the only one who notices "this" and "that" is her, no one else.

Yes I am fabulous. I now know this.

Fucking shame I didn't work this shit out when I was 19.

 

[Alyssa Hu$tle]

Sorry, but feminine wiles are not a valid form of currency

Wanna bet? Maybe not at GAF, but in real life it is a different matter entirely.

Edit: actually, where am I going with "maybe not at GAF"... what's the catch phrase here..."more naked pics please!!!" :lol

 

[Outcast2004]

(And if your wife is worried about ber big boobs now, just wait until they get so big buying bras is a real issue)..

Already there..... god forbid when we decide to have kids.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

A nose job that's intended for one's own enjoyment but not for self-esteem issues... I've actually considered such things. However, in my case it was joking about getting rid of most of it to clear up a small percentage more of vision, or to get really huge nostrils to make breathing easier. Function!

By GAF logic, we shouldn't even be talking now because improvements to ourselves are bad.

I don't think the argument being made by some is "improvements are bad", it's about what constitutes an improvement.

 

[WrathOfOtaibah]

I don't think the argument being made by some is "improvements are bad", it's about what constitutes an improvement.

So you are saying that its subjective?

Now we're getting somewhere.

 

[WARCOCK]

I AM CONSIDERING PECTORAL IMPLANTS!

 

[Mama Smurf]

Wow, they look awful.

 

[Outcast2004]

wow, those pec implants look......

Whats the word I'm searching for here.....

UM....

GAY

Yep, thats the word..

 

[Late Stage Marxist]

:lol That's sad.

 

[Lemurnator]

I'm getting a boob job for sure someday; I look 15 instead of 20, I'm only 5'0" and 14-year-olds like Lemurs even have bigger boobies than me. I do wonder how safe implants really are, though. The safety issue has me more concerned than the money.

Just be happy with what you have. Jesus Christ, it's only boobs.

 

[Lil' Dice]

Those of you thinking she'll leave me after her implants, i don't think you realize just how beautiful i am.

 

[Bishman]

Wanna bet? Maybe not at GAF, but in real life it is a different matter entirely.

Edit: actually, where am I going with "maybe not at GAF"... what's the catch phrase here..."more naked pics please!!!" :lol

I'm glad you're here. Nice to see an outspoken, confident woman here on gaf. Plus I love your opinions.

And personally, I like them natural. I'll make sure my gf, whoever is confident with her body.

 

[olimario]

You can improve your looks and your body by natural means.

If you improve how intelligent you are with a brain implant, then I have no respect for you in that regard.
If you improve your looks through cosmetic surgery, then I have no respect for you in that regard.

There's no satisfaction when you don't do it yourself.

 

[KingGondo]

You can improve your looks and your body by natural means.

If you improve how intelligent you are with a brain implant, then I have no respect for you in that regard.
If you improve your looks through cosmetic surgery, then I have no respect for you in that regard.

There's no satisfaction when you don't do it yourself.

Thank you--a voice of reason.

The Experiment and Alyssa's "because I want it" attitude was really starting to piss me off. The world just doesn't work that way.

 

[siege]

HA!

I approve.

 

[olimario]

And I hate the "If it makes you feel good, do it" mentality in America today. It's spawned a generation of ungrateful degenerates who think they deserve something for nothing.

 

[etiolate]

I'm getting a boob job for sure someday; I look 15 instead of 20, I'm only 5'0" and 14-year-olds like Lemurs even have bigger boobies than me. I do wonder how safe implants really are, though. The safety issue has me more concerned than the money.

God dammit people, you take the good with the bad. If you reject one part of it then it's like your rejecting the whole package you got. Small boobs? Well you could be extremely fat with big boobs. Would you prefer that? The ideal look fades into shadows if it lacks the nuances of born differences and the intrigue those individual forms hold.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Dont lie, you love you some titty.

What, are you 12 or something? I'm happily married, been so for six years. This changes your perspective a bit. I'm a very sexual person, but I don't think I've said the word "titty" in my life.

I view this entire discussion with disgust and a slight sense of pity for the women who feel they need to mutilate themselves to look attractive, and those men (and culture at large) who apply that pressure.

 

[Azih]

It's not a matter of sticking up my nose at someone wanting to look good. It's the *extreme* nature of the fix that makes me uncomfortable personally.

I mean shit this is *surgery* here. I don't think anything of lift and seperate push up bras or whatever since they're not a permanent change that requires you to be cut open like a piece of meat.

Hell I don't like high heels because they cause health problems in the name of looking good and plastic surgery is a thousand times more extreme than that.

 

[Mr Gump]

What, are you 12 or something? I'm happily married, been so for six years. This changes your perspective a bit. I'm a very sexual person, but I don't think I've said the word "titty" in my life.

I view this entire discussion with disgust and a slight sense of pity for the women who feel they need to mutilate themselves to look attractive, and those men (and culture at large) who apply that pressure.

Good grief, it was a joke...

What a bunch of uptight pricks this thread contains...

 

[etiolate]

titty titty titty titty tittytitty titty titty titty titty titty-titty titty

 

[siege]

titty titty titty titty tittytitty titty titty titty titty titty-titty titty

:lol

 

[ChrisReid]

Actually this reminds me of a highschool gf who looked 12, so she could get into PG-13 movies at the ticket counter. She'd have to step back and then they'd see her big old chest and let her in. She was like only 5'3 or 5'4.

Theaters don't have age restrictions on PG-13 movies. All the rates below R are a suggestion.

 

[WrathOfOtaibah]

Thank you--a voice of reason.

The Experiment and Alyssa's "because I want it" attitude was really starting to piss me off. The world just doesn't work that way.

Says who? You?

:lol

 

[ToxicAdam]

I didn't read through all the posts, but many people who get plastic surgery for one thing, end up getting other operations or reverse/alter thier original operation. So, it really isn't a reflection on society, but rather a reflection on certain types of people who are insecure.


Really, a majority of people at one time in thier lives, want to change something about themselves. Most of us don't have the means/time to do something about it.


Edit: Pec implants and calf implants are some of the most rediculous surgeries I have seen.

 

[MrPing1000]

You can improve your looks and your body by natural means.

If you improve how intelligent you are with a brain implant, then I have no respect for you in that regard.
If you improve your looks through cosmetic surgery, then I have no respect for you in that regard.

There's no satisfaction when you don't do it yourself.

I agree with olimario *feels dirty* spot on u smug git heh

 

[Hitokage]

Eh, as long as the person isn't doing it out of insecurity and fully understands the risks and limitations of cosmetic surgery... I can't really object.

And I hate the "If it makes you feel good, do it" mentality in America today. It's spawned a generation of ungrateful degenerates who think they deserve something for nothing.

What'd your maid do this time?

 

[Dan]

GAF on abortions: It's a woman's choice it's her body!!!

GAF on breast implants: Aw hell naw!

Last I checked no one was trying to make breast implants illegal for non-health related issues.

 

[tedtropy]

There's no satisfaction when you don't do it yourself.

Whoa, wait a minute. Doesn't your family have a maid? Or was that just spawned from some past Olimario forum myth...

 

[Late Stage Marxist]

Last I checked no one was trying to make breast implants illegal for non-health related issues.

There are documented physical and emotional repercussions to having an abortion.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

the way i see it if my wife asks for a boob job it means either:


a) I dont compliment her assets so she feels she needs this to make herself be mroe attractive for me ( we need to talk then)

b) she wants to impress someone other than me cause i know god damn well i would never push her for a boob job

c) She is really fucking superficial and is really weak willed.



Either way i would never let it happen. I am happy with the real deal.

 

[Lil' Dice]

the way i see it if my wife asks for a boob job it means either:


a) I dont compliment her assets so she feels she needs this to make herself be mroe attractive for me ( we need to talk then)

b) she wants to impress someone other than me cause i know god damn well i would never push her for a boob job

c) She is really fucking superficial and is really weak willed.



Either way i would never let it happen. I am happy with the real deal.

You forgot:
d) I'm built like a Greek god and she feels inaduquate.

 

[Archaix]

Whoa, wait a minute. Doesn't your family have a maid? Or was that just spawned from some past Olimario forum myth...

I don't know that anybody gets satisfaction out of cleaning, whether they do it themselves or have somebody else do it...

 

[Dan]

There are documented physical and emotional repercussions to having an abortion.

It was a stupid comparison, period. No one's sitting here arguing that women shouldn't be allowed to consider the surgery, so there's no hypocritical twist with regard to abortion arguments.

 

[Deku Tree]

I AM CONSIDERING PECTORAL IMPLANTS!

It's ok to post a pic like this, but it's not ok to post a similar pic of a woman? DOUBLE STANDARDS!!

 

[Late Stage Marxist]

It was a stupid comparison, period. No one's sitting here arguing that women shouldn't be allowed to consider the surgery, so there's no hypocritical twist with regard to abortion arguments.

There are definitely stigmatic overtones in this thread with regards to women who have body modifications. Both are lifestyle choices that are ultimately decided by women. Both are medical procedures. I can't put it into any simpler terms.

 

[olimario]

We don't have a maid. We used to have a woman come dust and vacuum our downstairs, but I've always taken care of my own stuff.

And there is satisfaction cleaning. I feel so good after having cleaned my room and taken a shower.

 

[KingGondo]

Says who? You?

:lol

As a matter of fact, it is my opinion.

You see, Mr. Experiment--when someone says something, that's generally taken as their opinion, unless sarcasm is detected by the intelligent of the forum.

And actually, now that you mention it, part of my reasoning is wrong. People operate in a selfish, narcissistic way all the time. However, if you want satisfaction from your life, and not the constant approval of others, constant bowing to arbitrarily-judged standards of beauty is obviously not the way to go.

 

[Dan]

There are definitely stigmatic overtones in this thread with regards to women who have body modifications. Both are lifestyle choices that are ultimately decided by women. Both are medical procedures. I can't put it into any simpler terms.

Ok... and where is this hypocrasy that you're implying is present at GAF? Is there not also a stigma against women who have abortions?

You're drawing connections between a legal argument and a social argument, and that's an incredibly flawed point of view.

 

[etiolate]

Theaters don't have age restrictions on PG-13 movies. All the rates below R are a suggestion.

Hrm, maybe she lied to me about that story.

 

[Barnimal]

question....do natural ones get bigger when a women is pregnant? and if so, do they stay like that after?

 

[siege]

question....do natural ones get bigger when a women is pregnant? and if so, do they stay like that after?

Yes, they get bigger, and no they don't stay that way.

 

[Prine]

Boobs get boring after a few minutes anyway. Dont get me wrong, they get you excited, but after a few minutes of sucking i've usually had enough. I like to get down to business

Edit: Oh. we're talking about women reasoning behind boob jobs?

 

[fart]

you do the entire world a disservice when you buy into destructive social concepts like body image

tell her she is beautiful, and make her believe it, because it's true.

 

[Jagernaut]

the way i see it if my wife asks for a boob job it means either:


a) I dont compliment her assets so she feels she needs this to make herself be mroe attractive for me ( we need to talk then)

b) she wants to impress someone other than me cause i know god damn well i would never push her for a boob job

c) She is really fucking superficial and is really weak willed.



Either way i would never let it happen. I am happy with the real deal.

How could you stop her if she had the money for the procedure?

 

[Kabuki Waq]

How could you stop her if she had the money for the procedure?

I would just say

"WOMAN THAT SHIT AINT GONNA HAPPEN ON MY WATCH, NOW GO IRON MY SHIRT AND THEN MAKE ME A SANDWHICH"



honestly its not about the money, when you get married you will understand that its all about ppl respecting each other, like i would not do something drastic to my looks if i know my wife would not like it.

 

[Late Stage Marxist]

Ok... and where is this hypocrasy that you're implying is present at GAF? Is there not also a stigma against women who have abortions?

You're drawing connections between a legal argument and a social argument, and that's an incredibly flawed point of view.

You're right, noone thinks breast augmentation should be against the law, but it still doesn't make abortion strictly a legal argument. And my point was just that according to previous GAF threads on abortion "it's a woman's body". I personally don't subscribe to that belief in regards to fetuses, but I think my point still stands.

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

Sorry, but feminine wiles are not a valid form of currency

Sorry to bump an old thread but it was suggested that I read this. But, Outcast are you nucking futs! Feminine wiles are the second best form of currency on the planet today. Pussy pays my friend and it pays well.

Men will go to war and will kill for women in a New York minute.