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[The Driver]

Maybe it won't be what I'm thinking but all I'm getting is a hour long torture porn version of "slavery is bad mkay" via a bunch of gratuitous assaults and murder scenes.

 

[Tender Joe]

For those unfamiliar, these are the worst screenwriters to ever helm a flagship network franchise.

This is why we still have 2 Game of Thrones threads, to quarantine the bait and shitposts.

Hahaha. Yep.

 

[Frozenprince]

A show that'll be 95% "slave drama"?

Haaaaaard pass.

 

[chaislip3]

Yeah, that's a no from me

 

[ISOM]

This is gonna be so bad.

 

[TWrecks310]

There is a 0% chance they handle the subject matter with the elegance it requires.

And I love Game of Thrones

 

[Iksenpets]

Ehhh, I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but nothing suggests these guys have the subtlety to pull something like this off, and it's the sort of thing that can go horribly, horribly awry if not done really carefully

 

[jph139]

My second thought, is this based off that short i saw on youtub a while back?

Is Turtledove getting a check?

I immediately started looking for his name, ha ha.

It sounds like this is going to be a more modern vision of the idea if conglomerates and demilitarized zones are any indication, unlike Timeline-191. Which I think is kind of dumb and requires a lot of hoop-jumping - even in the most fantastic alternate history scenarios the Confederacy wouldn't be able to last more than a century on its own. It just wasn't a viable state.

That being said I'm a sucker for alternate history so I'll give it a shot, even if GoT's track record with racial sensitivity is... poor...

 

[FlyinJ]

Has the GOP called for a boycott of this yet, citing it as an unfair representation of their base.

 

[Frozenprince]

At least Turtledove had the sense to realize "the Confederacy would probably ban slavery too at some point" (before he got to Southern Dandy Hitler anyway).

I really don't need to see a drama about the harrows and tribulations of colored people being enslaved. It's not exactly a topic of contention.

 

[KodaRuss]

I am not really on board with exploring this what if scenario but Ill keep an open mind.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Under over on a Mandingo subplot somewhere in this show?

 

[ElRenoRaven]

This could be very interesting. I love things like this based on what it would be like if History had happened differently. Will be interesting to see how they handle some of the tough subject matter that this will have to cover.

 

[excelsiorlef]

At least Turtledove had the sense to realize "the Confederacy would probably ban slavery too at some point" (before he got to Southern Dandy Hitler anyway).

I really don't need to see a drama about the harrows and tribulations of colored people being enslaved. It's not exactly a topic of contention.

Especially from those guys.

 

[Buckle]

Couldn't see The South keeping slavery in the modern era so that particular idea when people float the civil war alternate reality concept around has always been abit too much to me.

Could never really buy into it.

 

[Random Human]

Woof, this has bad idea written all over it.

 

[Speevy]

This is why we still have 2 Game of Thrones threads, to quarantine the bait and shitposts.

 

[RDreamer]

The concept could be interesting if handled maturely and if it were well written. As much as I like Game of Thrones I'm not entirely sure I trust these two rich white dudes that have spent the last decade reveling in a sort of violence porn and gratuitous sex fantasy world to be able to do it. That sort of stuff works well in a popcorn fantasy way and even there they've faltered pretty heavily at times. The same sort of approach to this concept would be freaking disastrous.

 

[Netherscourge]

This is gonna be so bad.

I'm sure they'll get decent viewership from the Alt-Right.

 

[Einchy]

This is why we still have 2 Game of Thrones threads, to quarantine the bait and shitposts.

ah, so that's what goes in that thread. At least in the TV thread we talk about the show.

 

[munchie64]

As a defender of these guys, this sounds like a terrible idea.

 

[Balphon]

From just the topic title I thought this was going to be an adaptation of How Few Remain.

 

[Speevy]

ah, so that's what goes in that thread. At least in the TV thread we talk about the show.

They try to talk about the show in the other thread too but it has me.

 

[Discotheque]

These guys are pretty weak writers. If it wasn't for the book ip and big budget fantasy I wouldn't be watching game of thrones

Giving them a show removed from either is uninteresting

 

[Patryn]

How is it the third Civil War if the South won the first one? At that point, wouldn't subsequent wars not be civil wars and instead just a regular war between two nations?

 

[conpfreak]

Whew at that description. Who greenlight this, especially in this political climate and the social trend towards complete renouncement of the Confederacy as legitimate?

 

[Beefy]

Pass on this shit

 

[SephCast]

What year is this going to be set in? Slavery as a Modern institution is WEIRD.

 

[Frozenprince]

Fifty bucks says a POV character is a southern idealist who believes slavery is a necessary evil and that slaves are still treated humanely until we see him and some slave master talking next to a field (you know they still have fields) of slaves and ypu get a panning shot on all of them. Until you focus on one, Haggard older man who just stares emptily and angrily at the POV character. Beginning his path to abolitionism.

Seems the kind of heavy handed nonsense this would do.

 

[Cesare Borgia]

Good luck making something decent without solid source material to use. Sounds like a lazy attempt at their own sprawling world with "grey" characters.

 

[inky]

Jesus, you know they will show the "production" line

*shock value!*

 

[Widdle Puppy]

This show wont be very good considering these guys aren't very good when they don't have well established source material to work from.

 

[CopperPuppy]

I'd note that they're great showrunners, given that they produce an absurdly complicated and wildly successful franchise on a more or less annual basis, while agreeing that they could certainly use some help with their individual scripts and running the writer's room.

This is an absolutely fair assessment and basically mirrors my own opinion.

 

[Crimson_Echidna]

I look forward to some sort of that disturbing Walter White/Skyler fandom bullshit when one of the slave owners inevitably becomes adored by his fanbase or some shit

Yep, and the inevitable Slave Holder who "totes treats his slaves right and like they're part of the family."

 

[prepaidtacosalad]

For those unfamiliar, these are the worst screenwriters to ever helm a flagship network franchise.

Scott Buck still helms multiple television projects.

 

[Frozenprince]

Oh god and the soundtrack is gonna be all slow, sad piano covers of gospel songs.

 

[AuthenticM]

I look forward to some sort of that disturbing Walter White/Skyler fandom bullshit when one of the slave owners inevitably becomes adored by his fanbase or some shit

I don't understand.

 

[bengraven]

Sounds awesome.

But..most "theories" are that the south was going to get rid of slavery in another decade or two. So this could cause some backlash.

 

[The Silver]

Well that sounds depressing........

 

[Slayven]

At least Turtledove had the sense to realize "the Confederacy would probably ban slavery too at some point" (before he got to Southern Dandy Hitler anyway).

I really don't need to see a drama about the harrows and tribulations of colored people being enslaved. It's not exactly a topic of contention.

They should just pick up Underground. RIP

 

[pablito]

I'm not interested in this at all. Pass.

 

[More_Badass]

Whew at that description. Who greenlight this, especially in this political climate and the social trend towards complete renouncement of the Confederacy as legitimate?

It all comes down to execution. Underground Airlines recently presented a similar scenario and handled it well; other recent alt-history/reality shows like Man In The High Castle and Handmaid's Tale have handled their concepts and worlds quite well also.

Now do I expect these guys to do that execution well? I doubt it.

 

[prepaidtacosalad]

I don't understand.

A lot of people hated Skyler despite being Walts victim while also praising Walt as a bad ass. OP clearly forgets though all of Skylers own wrongdoings that could have made her an unsympathetic character despite not having done the extreme things Walter did.

But it's fiction so really people are okay to like whatever characters they want.

 

[Goodstyle]

Assuming that:
A) The creative team will be as white as its creators.
B) The show's main focus will be on the "good" white people.

I don't want to see any of this.

 

[bonesmccoy]

How is it the third Civil War if the South won the first one? At that point, wouldn't subsequent wars not be civil wars and instead just a regular war between two nations?

Not necessarily. I guess in their alternate universe, the North collapsed in the 1st war and was occupied, and then tried to secede from the Confederacy themselves years later, unsuccessfully.

 

[LotusHD]

Spoiler

Pass.

 

[Frozenprince]

Not necessarily. I guess in their alternate universe, the North collapsed in the 1st war and was occupied, and then tried to secede from the Confederacy themselves years later, unsuccessfully.

The logistics of this universe already make no sense at all.

I guess that's to be expected from the guys who invented the teleporter in Westeros.

 

[SheSaidNo]

The concept could be interesting if handled maturely and if it were well written. As much as I like Game of Thrones I'm not entirely sure I trust these two rich white dudes that have spent the last decade reveling in a sort of violence porn and gratuitous sex fantasy world to be able to do it. That sort of stuff works well in a popcorn fantasy way and even there they've faltered pretty heavily at times. The same sort of approach to this concept would be freaking disastrous.

Some of the main writers are black

 

[facetheslayer92]

That description sounds awful.

 

[Arttemis]

Man in the High Castle is phenomenal, with season 2 being some of the best television I've watched this year. If this show can approach that level of quality and engagement, it'd be a must watch.

I'm willing to give it a chance.